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JFM posted 03-30-2002 06:06 PM ET (US)   Profile for JFM   Send Email to JFM  
My son asked me what we are going to do with what I bought last week, along with what we have. All he wanted was a new or newer 13' sport.

Last week I bought a mint 1969 13' with a 1989 40 HP Johnson VRO with remote oil tank, but a 20" motor on a 15" transom and a trailer. This boat is an 11 on a scale of 1-10, motor like new, crappy trailer.

I also bought a left over 2000 Yammy 4 stroke 40 HP 15".

We have a 1972 13' Sport with a 1990 Erude 40 HP 20" motor on a 15" transom built up to 20" with teak. This package has a crappy trailer, and the motor has been screwed with (I don't trust this motor). This boat is a 7 on a scale of 1-10.

My first thought was to put the new Yammy on the 1969 and sell the Johnson and buy a new trailer. However the seller told me to come over and pick up the 1969 Johnson that came with the boat ( manual start) also mint. The boat is too nice to fish. I know a collecter in Cinti. that will buy this boat for 2-3x's for what we have in it, with the original 1969 Johnson.

We will use the boat for flats fishing to some light off shore fishing.

So now do I put the 1989 Johnson on the '72 and sell the 1990 erude and the new Yammy. Or put the 2000 Yammy on the '72 and cut the transom back down to 15". In either case I'll have 2 motors to sell and a new trailer to buy.

I'm leaning to the new Yammy, what do you think? Will I have too much invested in the 1972?

My son wants me to sell it all and buy a new Sport, but I just can't stand that new "cheaped up" boat.

Regards, Jay

SpeedyWhaler posted 03-30-2002 07:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for SpeedyWhaler  Send Email to SpeedyWhaler     
Why does your son want a new sport?
I think you should definitley keep the boat. Don't buy a new one. Use the 4 stroke if you don't think the 89 johnson is reliable.
SpeedyWhaler posted 03-30-2002 07:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for SpeedyWhaler  Send Email to SpeedyWhaler     
Oh, and tell your son the new whalers are shorter,wider,heavyer,slower and just plain not a classic whaler.
JFM posted 04-01-2002 02:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for JFM  Send Email to JFM     
Thank you all for the emails.
It looks like the verdict is: We keep the 1972 and go with the new Yammy 4 stroke. Regards, Jay
Duncan posted 04-01-2002 03:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for Duncan  Send Email to Duncan     
Sell it all. Yes, get rid of all of it.

You've got a lot tied up now.
Sell the 69 and 69 motor to the collector. you don't want it for want reliability and fishability. He'll take good care of the 69. you don't want to be bothered.

Hock the 15" Yamaha and the other engine. Hock the trailers. (if your son thinks the new 13 is half the boats the classic 13s are, hock him too!)

With all that cash you've now got, go buy a mint late-model desert tan 13 with a 20" transom and a 4 stroke with power tilt for your flats fishing. Put it on a good, heavy duty galvanized trailer with good new c-rated tires, bearing buddies, the works. Super reliable.

You'll have cash left over to buy a new flyrod for the boy and a new pushpole, etc

Make sense or am I starting to sound like my father?

JFM posted 04-01-2002 03:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for JFM  Send Email to JFM     
Duncan, either you or I must be related to "Monte Hall". I almost sold my son last year when he decided to golf instead of going fishing with me (JUST KIDDING). Regards, Jay
Novice Dave posted 04-01-2002 06:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for Novice Dave    
Sorry, but it needs to be said...

You all sound like your father. Listen to your son. He doesn't want an old, classic, antique Whaler. He is thinking: "Old Whalers are for old guys to fix up who won't pop for a new one."

Since it is your money, you will get what you want. If it was his money, he would be out boating with his friends in a new Whaler.

Regards, Dave

JFM posted 04-02-2002 09:13 AM ET (US)     Profile for JFM  Send Email to JFM     
Novice Dave,
My son is 13 and has enough money to buy a new one. He is smarter than the "old man". He knows how hard the "old man" had to work over the years to get ahead and follows the example.
You are wrong about the old "classic". We took it out on a fishing trip with his buddies and their Dads. He observed that there was much more appeal to the "classic" than the other Dad's metalflake bass boats.
He wants me to buy a new one because I don't trust the "classic" for our 2500 mile round trip to the ocean, along with the fishing.
Last Saturday we were working together close by the Whaler dealer and stopped in. He went over to the new 13 and at first glance, like in the past, loved it, pointing out all the new features. He then looked at the way there was caulking around the seats and other places that didn't fit. I could tell he was on the fence.
I told him that in 10 years the new boat and the old boat would be worth about the same. We also didn't have to worry about taking better care of the old one. He said, "let's think it over".
On Easter, he then said maybe your right Dad, "lett's keep one of the old ones and fix it up to make the Fla. trip".
This afternoon he will be with me when I sell the 1969 for 3X's what we paid for it. He was with me yesterday when the guy paid me $1500 cash for the 1989 Johnson. He told me, "That was sweet Dad, now we only have $500 in the 1969".
So you youg guys be careful when my son starts to buy and sell his own Whalers. I'll just sit back and smile.

Regards, Jay
Duncan posted 04-02-2002 10:18 AM ET (US)     Profile for Duncan  Send Email to Duncan     

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