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phatwhaler posted 04-10-2002 12:38 PM ET (US)   Profile for phatwhaler   Send Email to phatwhaler  
Has anyone replaced the plastic on their Whaler with teak to make it look like a classic? If so, got any pics?

phatwhaler out.

lhg posted 04-10-2002 04:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
The current people at Whaler would think such a person had truly gone out of their mind!

But I could see someone buying a new bare hull Alert or Guardian and finishing it out with either mahogany or teak components.

Ventura16 posted 04-10-2002 05:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ventura16  Send Email to Ventura16     
There was a '97 (or thereabouts) 17 Outrage on eBay a few months ago that had quite a bit of teak trim. It was very tastefully done and looked great. I think I have some photos of it that I downloaded if anyone wants to see them.

Tom

phatwhaler posted 04-10-2002 05:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for phatwhaler  Send Email to phatwhaler     
I have a picture of that 17-OR that was on Ebay. I looks great! The wood need some varnish though, it's bare in the photo.
Imagine a new Outrage with:
Teak doors etc... Varnished with 10 coats of Epifanes or Schooner #96.
Teak decks
Navy hull with gold Whaler graphics
Turn a Whaler into a little yacht!!!
Just day dreamin

Phatwhaler out.

andygere posted 04-10-2002 07:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Does anyone know if the fiberglass gunwale boards on a CPD 22 (or any classic Outrage or Revenge) could be converted to teak? Are the 'glass gunwales bolted in, or are there completely seperate topside molds for teak vs. glass gunwale boats?
PMUCCIOLO posted 04-12-2002 01:34 AM ET (US)     Profile for PMUCCIOLO    
andygere,

From looking at the CPD boats as bare hulls and in various stages of completion, the gunwales are bolted on. There is no teak option, as they offer fiberglass (standard) or an upgrade to aluminum for welding and bolting on commercial accessories. I'm sure that someone would make the teak gunwales, but the cost would be staggering.

Paul

andygere posted 04-12-2002 02:00 AM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Paul,
From what you have seen, would it be possible to unbolt the fiberglass gunwale and replace it with one fabricated from teak? The wood would cost a few bucks, but I don't think it would be overwhelming.
Tom W Clark posted 04-12-2002 02:10 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
Andy,

It would be possible but it would require removal of the rub rail. The teak clad and 'glass clad classic Whalers came from the same mold. Larry Sherman removed the gunwale boards on his Outrage 25 and made and installed new ones.

It does require screwing and plugging a lot of screw holes however. I'm sure it could also be done with a new CDP Whaler as well but probably not by the average home owner type hobbyist.

PMUCCIOLO posted 04-12-2002 04:34 AM ET (US)     Profile for PMUCCIOLO    
Andy,

As is the case with anything, I think that the majority of the cost would stem from labor. As Tom commented, a significant amount of disassembly, finish carpentry, and installation (with plugging the screw holes with matching grain, securing the rubrail, and installing the hardware) is required.

However, I suspect that high-quality, matched grain teak of the thickness and length required would not be cheap. Please keep us aware of your decision and the estimated costs involved.

Paul

andygere posted 04-12-2002 07:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Tom and Paul,
Thanks for the input. I don't have a project Outrage/Revenge yet, but always wondered if such a conversion could be done. I've always thought that the teak gunwales were one of the nicest details available on classic Whalers, however most of the late 80's boats I have seen in my area have 'glass gunwales.
whalernut posted 04-12-2002 08:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalernut  Send Email to whalernut     
I will be selling the Complete Interior from my 73` `16 Currituck(Sport) if anyone is interested?? Or I will trade for older Montauk RPS or Center Console, Fiberglass or Wood, anyone?? Jack.
DIVE 1 posted 04-12-2002 09:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for DIVE 1    
Andy,
We have the aluminum gunwale tops on DIVE1. They could be removed and converted to teak. The aluminum is 1/4" thick.
Jim
PMUCCIOLO posted 04-13-2002 08:29 AM ET (US)     Profile for PMUCCIOLO    
Jim,

What model, year, power, etc. are on DIVE1?

Paul

DIVE 1 posted 04-13-2002 09:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for DIVE 1    
Paul,
The factory equipped power for our Raider was twin 1989 Evinrude 155HP RH Commercial outboards. All of the Raiders that I looked at were swinging 15x16 props. We received the hull without engines but lucked out and picked up a set that were the correct year and HP. As soon as outboard technology stabilizes, I would like to replace them with a new set of CR 175s.
Jim
tobes posted 04-13-2002 09:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for tobes  Send Email to tobes     
Last fall I bought 32 bf of 5/4 teak for the conversion of my 84'Guardian/OR. This teak will wrap around cockpit to recreate that yacht like feel of the classic BW OR with a full transom and a 29" Gil OB bracket. see "drop in bins" in repair secion.

Last spring Dive1 said "plan on spending 1000 hrs on this one". Well I'm planing on being in the water before the 4th of July. I have no idea of how many hrs I have, it's less than 1000, but not by much. I love this boat so I don't care.

My plan is to go for an Outre' with a "Whale Lure" look. My Birdsall leaning post and Mills forward shelter have been waiting a year for me to finish this project. I couldn't belive my luck this winter when I found a OME bow bit, Wilcox & Critenden hause pipes and the canvas at local shop, where they couldn't wait to give them away.


I also have the heavy gauge aluminum gunnels from a 22' Guardian for sale. If anybody needs them see the market section soon or e-mail me.

My arch will have to be next years project if there are any funds left.

Back to work.
JT

andygere posted 04-14-2002 03:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Tobes, sounds like a great project. Be sure to post some photos when it's done.

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