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whalertim posted 04-13-2002 04:46 PM ET (US)   Profile for whalertim   Send Email to whalertim  
I really needed to get this off my chest! I know you really have to be careful when making a purchase, even if the product you are wanting is new or used and sometimes we have to learn the hard way. I just wanted to share this with you guys because it deals somewhat with a recent subject.
My son Brandon age 17 wanted a 4 wheeler. He has asked for this for quite sometime. His mother and I agreed he could get one, IF he pays for it own his own! Brandon works after school in a Quick Lub Express till about 7:00 pm each night. Well he started saving his money and when he found the right one, he contacted the owner. It was a 1998 Honda Forman 400. Beautiful 4 wheeler and well taken care of. Brandon and the owner came to an agreement on the price. Skook HANDS. Brandon still needed more money than what he had so he went to the bank, I went with him, and he was able to get the money. Payments set up for him on the 15th of each month. Well today was the day. Brandon called the owner to tell hin he would be there in about 2 hours. GUESS WHAT! Yep. the owner had sold the 4 wheeler. Brandon was very dishearted about the whole expeirence.
Some people just do not know what it means to make a deal and to stick with it.
Thanks for listing.
Bugsy Malone posted 04-13-2002 04:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bugsy Malone  Send Email to Bugsy Malone     
Kid's have to learn to Timmy!

Just like some adults that haven't.

Morocco posted 04-13-2002 05:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for Morocco  Send Email to Morocco     
Gotta laugh at that response, especially considering your screen name.

The important thing is what Tim will emphasize as the 'lesson' to his son -- hopefully the boy will NOT take his lesson from the seller.

My rant is that most of us had 'role models' who banged certain values into us, and those values make us better people, and that is what has built this country into the most stable,successful country in the history of man. (Yeah, yeah, I know its not perfect...) Seems like, in the used boat, used car world especially, some of us lose our way. ("Sure I jerked that kid around, but I got $700 more!" That's a guy I wouldn't ever drink a beer with again...)

More of us should stand up against this stuff, instead of behaving like we're trading rugs in front of a tribal tent.

Whether or not you believe in God, 'right and wrong' is a very useful concept, since it pushes society toward order.

As for the deal, tell the kid to understand greed, but not to believe in it.

Macman posted 04-13-2002 06:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for Macman  Send Email to Macman     
It all happens for a reason, Tim. Three years ago I had a full price handshake deal with a guy to buy his 18' Lund Alaskan. I was sure that I wanted a tin boat for fishing and camping. When I called him the next week to go pick it up...yup, you guessed it.
I ended up with Montauk...a nice consolation prize, eh? I am so glad that I didnt buy that Lund.
phatwhaler posted 04-13-2002 07:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for phatwhaler  Send Email to phatwhaler     
Same thing happened with me a few years ago. I told a guy I wanted his 17 SuperSport. I did want to make sure it ran OK though. Well, after pulling up to his house to conduct a sea trial I saw a guy hitching the boat up to a Jeep Wagoneer. I was like what the #$%@ over? This is after I drove about an hour to get to his place and I even called him ahead of time to make sure everything was on! I've got a better boat now anyway.

phatwhaler out.

whalernut posted 04-13-2002 09:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalernut  Send Email to whalernut     
There sure are some really bad people out there when it comes to holding to their word, I lost a 1969 `16 Eastport this way and I ripped that guy a new !@#$%, but I still lost the boat. In that case, I really did lose both ways, because I never did find another boat of that ilk for $3000!! I love my Currituck, but I sure would have loved to have that Eastport. Jack.
mbking1 posted 04-14-2002 09:53 AM ET (US)     Profile for mbking1  Send Email to mbking1     
What goes around comes around. Sometimes it takes a while, but it will happen. Mark
higgit posted 04-16-2002 07:53 AM ET (US)     Profile for higgit  Send Email to higgit     
The lesson for your son is what kind of man NOT to be. Sometimes we learn best from unpleasent experiences. I am certain that your son didn't like being treated like that. Explain to your son that the true measure of a man is how he sticks with his convictions after bad experiences.
whalertim posted 04-16-2002 09:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for whalertim  Send Email to whalertim     
Thanks Guys for your resopnses. I think that after having time to think about what happened, Brandon learned that this is not a perfect world and that not everyone will honor their word. As for the most part Brandon told me that a man is as only good as his word and that when he tells a man somthing, he can take it to the bank. We had a long talk about what happened and I explained to him that through life his word means allot to the people that he comes incontact with and that there is something better waiting for him than that 4 wheeler.
Again, Thanks
Tim (whalertim)
bobbyrd posted 04-16-2002 10:28 AM ET (US)     Profile for bobbyrd  Send Email to bobbyrd     
I thought you guys might be interested in my story. This past December I was given the go
ahead from the boss to purchase a boat. This time I decided on used, and after research decided on a Scout 15'. Found one 180 miles
from the house, 1999, in perfect condition, w/ honda 50hp 4 stroke. Ready to go including life jackets. Traveled to location,
would not come off the price, ok agreed to buy anyway. Went to bank, certified check,
went back to boat owner, title not in the state, have to wait until it mails back to the owner, in the meantime my check pays off
the boat before check is mailed. This story never came to light until I tried to close. I did not light paying for a boat without closing on payment. We decided a deposit would do, only $100.00. I pay the deposit go home and wait. Three days later receive a "DEAR BOB" letter. Sorry can not sell the
boat to you. After you left my son said he wanted to buy the boat. I realized I just lost the boat. Sent email back to owner asking what kind of example was being shown
to his son about "it's ok to give you word and back out" etc. Then I moved on.

The end of my story is I just bought a Boston Whaler 15' sport 1991 year. Never
considered one before. Boy am I glad the
scout deal fell thru. Even though the whaler
is much older it is such a neat boat. Things
usually work out. At least thats the way I fell.

where2 posted 04-16-2002 12:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for where2  Send Email to where2     
Unfortunately, in today's society, if you don't have something in writing, you have nothing. ALWAYS get your agreements in writing, and ALWAYS leave a deposit if you really want something. If you want to play hardball, put it in writing that the seller will agree to pay you $100 if they breech your agreement, and that you will reciprocate if you wish to back out of the deal. This usually gets the sellers attention, because they know they have the cost of the newspaper ad covered for another run if you back out.

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