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rsgwynn1 posted 04-14-2002 09:31 PM ET (US)   Profile for rsgwynn1   Send Email to rsgwynn1  
Three weeks after purchase, I finally got the 22 Revenge (1983) in the water today. After some initial misfiring from the 1989 Evinrude 225 at w.o.t. it settled down and ran great, about 45 mph at 5500 rpms. I suspect the misfiring was caused by some gum in the carbs that the Johnson gas conditioner was blowing through. I'm getting a better prop on it soon, so I should get better performance, especially if I remember to put the drain plug in next time! Back to the shop tomorrow for lower unit and water pump service and work on the boat lights and gauges.

I also learned that I should unhitch the tilt part of the trailer before trying to load the boat! The $89 electric winch from Harbor Freight got it almost on the trailer, but I had to hand winch the last five feet. Luckily the boat ramp wasn't crowded with old hands watching the novice and his stepson. We had to wait about 20 minutes to load as the ramp was occupied by the owner of a brand new Cobia whose Honda four-stroke just would not start. His wife and kids were not amused, nor was he!

David Ratusnik posted 04-14-2002 09:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Ratusnik  Send Email to David Ratusnik     
Hey professor- If you're going into the shop with the lower unit items, have the mechanic check out the electrical as well. I have have a similar set up, older Johnson 225 on an Outrage. Check the coils. 5500 rpms sounds good. Good luck David
rsgwynn1 posted 04-15-2002 12:08 AM ET (US)     Profile for rsgwynn1  Send Email to rsgwynn1     
5500 rpms is right between the 5000-6000 that my manual says is w.o.t., so I guess the prop is right. I've looked at the coils and they look good (no blistering or cracking), so I'm going to run it for a while before I contemplate any further engine work. Previous owner did have new magnets installed in the magneto/flywheel. I hate to think what six carb kits would cost. Does this model have a hook-up you can run the spray carb cleaner through? My 95 Johnson 112 has one.
rsgwynn1 posted 04-15-2002 12:10 AM ET (US)     Profile for rsgwynn1  Send Email to rsgwynn1     
My brother tells me that many Honda engines are installed with a fuel-line cut off switch. I wonder if that Cobia had one. Poor guy. He looked absolutely downcast, and his wife was giving him those I-told-you-so looks.
Russ posted 04-15-2002 01:47 AM ET (US)     Profile for Russ  Send Email to Russ     
'Wondering if you got that 8 horse kicker you mentioned in another thread.

Russ

rsgwynn1 posted 04-15-2002 01:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for rsgwynn1  Send Email to rsgwynn1     
Yes, got the 8 hp Mariner (83 model) and a 12 ft. Sea King aluminum boat for $500. Haven't used the kicker yet, but it runs good in the tank.
Salmon Tub posted 04-15-2002 05:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for Salmon Tub  Send Email to Salmon Tub     
I always have a hard time starting my engine. Then I remember to put the little do-hicky in the kill switch, and it fires right up. This happens just about every time.
rsgwynn1 posted 04-16-2002 12:03 AM ET (US)     Profile for rsgwynn1  Send Email to rsgwynn1     
I didn't think about the kill switch! I'll bet that was the problem. Poor guy. He'll be humiliated.
Bigshot posted 04-16-2002 11:02 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
I'll guarantee the kill switch if it never even tried to fire.

I dewinterized my Hydra one year and was out there cranking the crap out of it and just when I was about to scream my dad said "what's this for?" DUH!

jimp posted 04-16-2002 10:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimp  Send Email to jimp     
rsgwynn1 -

I'm running a 15x17 stainless prop on my 1990 225 Johnson and 22 Revenge. Get 5600 rpm and 44 mph.

JimP

rsgwynn1 posted 04-17-2002 12:14 AM ET (US)     Profile for rsgwynn1  Send Email to rsgwynn1     
Former owner says he got best performance from a 14@20 pitch, so that's what I told the prop guy I took the extra (broken) prop to. Heavily cupped prop too. More reports later. Wish I could afford one of those four blade deals.
rsgwynn1 posted 04-17-2002 12:20 AM ET (US)     Profile for rsgwynn1  Send Email to rsgwynn1     
I'll give you all a gps report when I get the new prop on. I expect around 50 mph at w.o.t. at around 5500 rpm (not that I expect to be running that hard in ordinary circumstances).
rsgwynn1 posted 04-17-2002 12:24 AM ET (US)     Profile for rsgwynn1  Send Email to rsgwynn1     
This boat feels great, by the way, even exceeding what I expected from my earlier Whaler. I mean, it feels like you're standing on a concrete floor when you hit chop. The solidity can't be matched by what I've felt on Makos and other boats in comparable waters.
Russ posted 05-01-2002 01:21 AM ET (US)     Profile for Russ  Send Email to Russ     
Have you tried the 8 hp kicker on your Revenge yet? I'm wondering how it performs because I have an 8 horse Yamaha four stroke that I've considered using on my 22' Revenge.

Russ

PMUCCIOLO posted 05-01-2002 01:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for PMUCCIOLO    
rsgwynn1,

From what I recall in the owner's manual of one of our OMC engines, if the engine hasn't been run for awhile (and not winterized) it is suggested that some premix (50:1) be run through it in addition to the VRO system. I don't know if this recommendation is still current.

Also, Carbon Guard and Engine Tuner, both of which are OMC products, may help clear out the deposits which accumulate in the fuel.

Most importantly, don't forget to change the fuel/water separator!

Good luck!

Paul

rsgwynn1 posted 05-01-2002 09:10 AM ET (US)     Profile for rsgwynn1  Send Email to rsgwynn1     
This is a good tip on the water separator. I also pulled the drain plugs from the carbs and drained them dry too.

Unfortunately, I found that my reserve (30 gal.) tank was full of foul-smelling gas, so I had to have it pumped out and disposed of at $3 per gal. Ouch.

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