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James posted 04-16-2002 09:50 PM ET (US)   Profile for James   Send Email to James  
I always had an appreciation for the Whaler safety features, quality and the reputation for seaworthiness especially in the smaller models. So, last Saturday we ordered a new BW 170 Montauk. My first Whaler!

The purchase includes the new BW 170 Montauk package with a 90 HP - 4 stroke Mercury, S/S prop, hourmeter, basically all the non-canvas BW options, all Mills canvas (Wide and Tall Bimini, console, seat and mooring covers), C-24 Pate tank, transom spring cleats, console lights, Lee rail mount rodholders and Birdsall transom mount rodholders, Guest battery switch and charger, custom cushions for the rear seats/steps. I kept the electronics simple: an Icom VHF/DSC w/Digital 4 ft. antenna, and the new Simrad CE-33. The trailer will have guides w/elevated lights. Now I am happy!


jimp posted 04-16-2002 10:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimp  Send Email to jimp     
James -

Congrats and welcome to the family!


tabasco posted 04-16-2002 10:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for tabasco  Send Email to tabasco     
Hey James -


The 13th is a lucky day for both of us. Did they give you a delivery date?

Only a few suggestions and a few questions. Suggest you up the Pate tank to the 27 will fit under the seat. Im glad you ordered the canvass from Mills I wish I had know ......had just taken it for granted that whaler used only mills canvass. Make sure that Mills gives you there new design so it fitts under the front rail. I also ordered a console cover & RPS cover in Jockey red.

Where are you getting the transom spring cleats? What size and exactly where are you installing them. Also who is making the rear small cushions whaler offering them now? If not where are you having them made and how much are they costing you? Will they match the gray stripe in the other cushions?

Good will really love this boat.


lhg posted 04-16-2002 11:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
Congrats to both James and Tabasco on getting new Montauks. A few things you mentioned are of interest to me. Not many people here spring for new Whalers, and it's nice to see the Company getting some business from ContinuousWave. They certainly get enough grief from here!

1. I noticed that both of you have opted for the more expensive Mercury 4-stroke. Are you both simply interested in the cleaner engine, or is the company basically only offering this engine? It seems that Mercury 4-strokes are in short supply, so I would think the 2-strokes would be more likely pushed. Since you ordered before the April 15th deadline, are you both getting the 5 year engine warranty?

2. Factory availability of Mills canvas again. True? If true, that is reversal of recent Whaler policy, but definitely a step in the right direction. Maybe the popularity of Mills on this site had something to do with it. Has Mills been officially hired to be a BW new Montauk canvas designer/supplier, and are the other Mills trademark components, such as a Forward Shelter and windshield also available? I had heard that BW was only going to offering the cheaper canvas from Sea Ray's supplier.

jimh posted 04-16-2002 11:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I think tobasco said the Mills prices were LESS than the Whaler OEM (SeaRay) canvas!
PMUCCIOLO posted 04-17-2002 12:01 AM ET (US)     Profile for PMUCCIOLO    

Congratulations! If you have a GPS available, perhaps Tobasco and you could provide us with performance and fuel economy data.

Best of luck!


rsgwynn1 posted 04-17-2002 12:34 AM ET (US)     Profile for rsgwynn1  Send Email to rsgwynn1     
Buying a new Whaler has always been a little beyond me, but I was thrilled when I got my first new one. It's kind of like obtaining a Mercedes (no matter how old) in good running condition. It's not like you're running a boat (or a car); you feel like you've got a tradition behind you. By the way, when I told my brother I'd bought my first one, he said, "What shape is it in?" I replied, "Let me put it this way--the decal says 'OSTO HALE.'"
James posted 04-17-2002 12:44 AM ET (US)     Profile for James  Send Email to James     
Thanks to everyone for the kind words. They are greatly appreciated.


I have developed a healthy affection for this website, and the many very knowledgeable people who choose to participate in it.


The target delivery deadline is my birthday in late May. It does not appear to be a serious issue, Whaler appears to be wising up to the demand for this new boat model. I will mention the C-27 to the dealer, but Pate was the one who recommended the C-24 to us. The Mills Wide and Tall does lay around the outside of the bow rail, a requirement for me. By the way, this Bimini is 6 ft. high from the mounting rail. I sort of broke with tradition and ordered the boat trim in blue, not red. I also specified that the Mills canvas products be made in Pacific Blue, the Whaler color. The six inch yacht quality stainless steel spring cleats are going to be installed by the dealer in the rear corner of the boat. There is sufficient Whalerboard in that area to do the job well. Whaler will not offer the rear cushions. Marine grade, custom-made cushions are regularly made for my dealer by a small outfit in Florida. Takes a week to 10 days after they get a mold of the seat. My dealer has them on their personal 1986 Montauk and they look great. We are not talking big money here. I will let you know the details after they size the boat seats.

I already rode on the boat. I agree with you about the ride being superior to the Classic. The stability in the bow was incredible, it just did not move and I am not a small person. With two adults on the side rail, tipping was negligible, but with three it did drop some. I would like to compare it side by side with my buddy's Classic Montauk for lateral stability.


"They certainly get enough grief from here!". They deserve it too, for trying to make the N.Y.Yankees into the Bad News Bears.

I chose the four stroke because it is cleaner burning, produces lower noise levels and should be more fuel efficient.

BW tramples over the obvious. They have not been associated with Mills for over 7 years. You or the dealer can order the covers directly from Mills. Very nice material, no change there. The Whaler stuff is reportedly made in Minnesota (by Sea Ray, maybe?) and does costs more money.

I did not hear about the forward shelter from Mills but I would not be surprised if they produced it for this seemingly very popular model. The 170 does have a nice bow section.


tabasco posted 04-17-2002 07:14 AM ET (US)     Profile for tabasco  Send Email to tabasco     
The reason Pate recommended the 24 because they were not sure if the 27 would fit. I called them yesterday and confirmed that it would fit under the seat. I am their first customer on the New Montauk. They were waiting for my phone call to see if it woulld fit. GO FOR THE 27. Love their tanks.
tabasco posted 04-17-2002 07:27 AM ET (US)     Profile for tabasco  Send Email to tabasco     
Don't know if you ordered the front bow's an extra ......does not come with the fishing package .......cost $225. I highly recommend this option. Makes the boat complete.
James posted 04-17-2002 04:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for James  Send Email to James     

Thanks for the input on the C-27. I did order the bow cushion separately. I also ordered a Ritchie SS-1000 to upgrade the compass Whaler provides. Due to the very reasonable purchase cost of this model, I can actually afford to personalize this boat to my heart's contentment.


The dealer was successful in providing me with the extended warranty package, after the deal was made, without my asking for it. Very Nice!

By the way, BW provides a Vengeance stainless steel 3-blade prop as standard equipment when you order the 90 HP - four stroke option.


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