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fmitch posted 04-18-2002 08:51 PM ET (US)
I believe i found small boston whaler sailboat 9' or 11' in a boatyard. I hated to ask a lot of questions until i knew more of the specifications and the availability of parts or plans. Any advice would be appreciated.
KeysNole posted 04-19-2002 12:43 AM ET (US)
When I wanted information or pictures on any older models and couldn't find it here, I emailed Whaler directly. They are very helpful and will send out pictures immediately.
Bigshot posted 04-19-2002 10:27 AM ET (US)
What do you need to know? I owned one so I may be able to help. It is 9'2" and 125lbs I believe. The sail is your standard "latine" rig that is used on sunfishes etc. The center board and rudder will be difficult and expensive if you find them. It sails like crap anyway. It is however a stable dingy and most important....a Boston Whaler.
It was my first boat at age 8 I think and I have many fond memories of it and to this day am still looking to buy one despite it's shortfalls. This time however I have a job and would very much like to drop a 9.9 on it and see how she goes:)
Chris J posted 04-19-2002 11:05 AM ET (US)
I have a Squall. I don't sail it much anymore but I don't think it sails so bad. It isn't a high performance hull or anything, but I don't think that was the idea.
It is simple, self-righting, self-bailing, and nearly indestructable; important features in a beginner boat.
I have put a small outboard on it. The hull shape and weight would probably prevent it from planing with any reasonable sized OB, but it motors OK at hull speed. The largest OB I ever tried was a 5 HP Johnson, which I think was its maximum rating. It balanced and handled OK with the 5.
All that good stuff aside, I don't believe it was very successful for Whaler. Serious sailors wanted something faster and it was a bit expensive compared to other beginner boats. For awhile there were a few near where I lived and we raced, but the other boats are long gone.
Used ones are around but usually have some parts missing, and as Bigshot pointed out, replacement parts are hard to find and expensive. If you found one that is fairly complete (at least still has its centerboard and rudder) it may be worth your while. If the CB is broken or gone you may want to pass on it. You can get a replacement mast and boom made and could make a replacement rudder yourself, but a replacement centerboard would probably be a bigger job that you would want to undertake.
Bigshot posted 04-19-2002 11:58 AM ET (US)
It was a great idea and they must have sold a bunch because they made them for about 15 years and then came out with them again for a couple years in the mid 80's after dropping it after 1979. All my friends had sunfishes and they would blow my doors off and I constantly got stuck in irons. They were less prone to flipping in comparison. I had a 4 merc on mine and I ran the snot outa that thing cruising all over Barnegat bay on about a qt of gas. I still see a few around but most are in pretty rough shape. There is a guy near me who makes copies as dinghys.....why I don't know.
djahncke posted 04-20-2002 12:41 AM ET (US)
I think they sold most of the Squalls as dinghies for cabin cruisers and yachts. In the 60's and 70's it was an extremely common site around the Great Lakes to see a Squall attached to a pair of stern davits on 40 foot cruisers. While they may not win sailboat races, they are excellent dinghies.
fmitch posted 04-20-2002 10:00 AM ET (US)
Thanks for the advice. I think I'll go back for a better look. Fred
Argiope posted 04-29-2002 10:16 PM ET (US)
I was just given a Squall as a gift!
Chuck Bennet, at BW, was kind enough to send me what drawings he could find for the Squall. It looks as though most everything could be made, with a bit of time.
One of the things with missing drawings happens to be a part I need. If anyone has information about the centerboard handle assembly, I surely could use it.
If anyone would like copies of the drawings that Chuck sent, please contact me by email with your mailing address.
I'm at: dorseydd@bellsouth.net
jimp posted 04-30-2002 11:41 AM ET (US)
Argiope -
Congrats on your gift!
An update on my Squall thread from a while back. This past weekend, I was able to move my 484 pound Squall into the garage and place it between the furnace and hot water base-board heating pipes (should weigh 125 lbs). It took 6 of us to carry the boat in. I also drilled a couple (30-40) of larger holes and the boat has been draining water for the last several days. Likely down to 480 pounds now!
No rush, maybe in 10 years...
JimP
hughmcmillan posted 04-30-2002 12:20 PM ET (US)
I had a Squall which I purchased, instead of a Dyer, from Yachter's World (?) in Stamford, CT.
It was my first boat and I was 10. I paid for it out of my savings which I had been accumulating since I was 5 for the purchase of a boat. If I recall correctly the cost was $600.
Mine predated Boston Whaler and was made by the Chestnut Hill Boat Company outside of Boston.
I wish I could remember my sail numbers. For a while there was an active class association.
I had a West Bend 3.5 HP engine which mounted on an aluminum plate which fit into the rudder location.
Maintaing the wooden oars, thwart, centerboard and rudder/tiller was my baptism into the chores of sanding and varnishing. When I mess about in my modern Whalers I am grateful that I don't have to maintain wood!

After a few years I outgrew the boat and sold it, if memory serves, for $500.
-Hugh
jimp posted 05-01-2002 11:01 PM ET (US)
Argiope -
I was finally able to check. One of the drawings Chuck Bennett sent me was "Squall Centerboard Handle Assembly".
What's your mailing address?
JimP
Argiope posted 05-02-2002 09:49 AM ET (US)
jimp,
My address is:
D. Dorsey
894 Weston Rd.
Unit 1
Arden, NC 28704
Many thanks for the offer!
jimp posted 05-02-2002 10:52 AM ET (US)
Argiope -
Made copies & in the mail.
Centerboard Handle Assembly
Alum. Inserts for Centerboard Slot
Centerboard Handle Base
Centerboard
Centerboard Handle
JimP
Argiope posted 05-07-2002 09:29 PM ET (US)
For the folks who contacted me:
I will be sending out mail tomorrow.
I hope the drawings are helpful!
daddy posted 07-31-2010 10:20 PM ET (US)
Any chance I could get a copy of those drawings? I have a 1970s Squall and it too weighs way more than it should. I would like to restore it and get it back on the water. I cant believe it once weighed 125 pounds. Thanks for any help
jimh posted 08-01-2010 08:02 AM ET (US)
There is an eight-year gap in this discussion.
Tom W Clark posted 08-01-2010 08:46 PM ET (US)
http://continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/cetaceaPage67.html
jimp posted 08-02-2010 10:51 AM ET (US)
daddy -
Check your email.
JimP

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Author	Topic: squall
fmitch	posted 04-18-2002 08:51 PM ET (US) I believe i found small boston whaler sailboat 9' or 11' in a boatyard. I hated to ask a lot of questions until i knew more of the specifications and the availability of parts or plans. Any advice would be appreciated.
KeysNole	posted 04-19-2002 12:43 AM ET (US) When I wanted information or pictures on any older models and couldn't find it here, I emailed Whaler directly. They are very helpful and will send out pictures immediately.
Bigshot	posted 04-19-2002 10:27 AM ET (US) What do you need to know? I owned one so I may be able to help. It is 9'2" and 125lbs I believe. The sail is your standard "latine" rig that is used on sunfishes etc. The center board and rudder will be difficult and expensive if you find them. It sails like crap anyway. It is however a stable dingy and most important....a Boston Whaler. It was my first boat at age 8 I think and I have many fond memories of it and to this day am still looking to buy one despite it's shortfalls. This time however I have a job and would very much like to drop a 9.9 on it and see how she goes:)
Chris J	posted 04-19-2002 11:05 AM ET (US) I have a Squall. I don't sail it much anymore but I don't think it sails so bad. It isn't a high performance hull or anything, but I don't think that was the idea. It is simple, self-righting, self-bailing, and nearly indestructable; important features in a beginner boat. I have put a small outboard on it. The hull shape and weight would probably prevent it from planing with any reasonable sized OB, but it motors OK at hull speed. The largest OB I ever tried was a 5 HP Johnson, which I think was its maximum rating. It balanced and handled OK with the 5. All that good stuff aside, I don't believe it was very successful for Whaler. Serious sailors wanted something faster and it was a bit expensive compared to other beginner boats. For awhile there were a few near where I lived and we raced, but the other boats are long gone. Used ones are around but usually have some parts missing, and as Bigshot pointed out, replacement parts are hard to find and expensive. If you found one that is fairly complete (at least still has its centerboard and rudder) it may be worth your while. If the CB is broken or gone you may want to pass on it. You can get a replacement mast and boom made and could make a replacement rudder yourself, but a replacement centerboard would probably be a bigger job that you would want to undertake.
Bigshot	posted 04-19-2002 11:58 AM ET (US) It was a great idea and they must have sold a bunch because they made them for about 15 years and then came out with them again for a couple years in the mid 80's after dropping it after 1979. All my friends had sunfishes and they would blow my doors off and I constantly got stuck in irons. They were less prone to flipping in comparison. I had a 4 merc on mine and I ran the snot outa that thing cruising all over Barnegat bay on about a qt of gas. I still see a few around but most are in pretty rough shape. There is a guy near me who makes copies as dinghys.....why I don't know.
djahncke	posted 04-20-2002 12:41 AM ET (US) I think they sold most of the Squalls as dinghies for cabin cruisers and yachts. In the 60's and 70's it was an extremely common site around the Great Lakes to see a Squall attached to a pair of stern davits on 40 foot cruisers. While they may not win sailboat races, they are excellent dinghies.
fmitch	posted 04-20-2002 10:00 AM ET (US) Thanks for the advice. I think I'll go back for a better look. Fred
Argiope	posted 04-29-2002 10:16 PM ET (US) I was just given a Squall as a gift! Chuck Bennet, at BW, was kind enough to send me what drawings he could find for the Squall. It looks as though most everything could be made, with a bit of time. One of the things with missing drawings happens to be a part I need. If anyone has information about the centerboard handle assembly, I surely could use it. If anyone would like copies of the drawings that Chuck sent, please contact me by email with your mailing address. I'm at: dorseydd@bellsouth.net
jimp	posted 04-30-2002 11:41 AM ET (US) Argiope - Congrats on your gift! An update on my Squall thread from a while back. This past weekend, I was able to move my 484 pound Squall into the garage and place it between the furnace and hot water base-board heating pipes (should weigh 125 lbs). It took 6 of us to carry the boat in. I also drilled a couple (30-40) of larger holes and the boat has been draining water for the last several days. Likely down to 480 pounds now! No rush, maybe in 10 years... JimP
hughmcmillan	posted 04-30-2002 12:20 PM ET (US) I had a Squall which I purchased, instead of a Dyer, from Yachter's World (?) in Stamford, CT. It was my first boat and I was 10. I paid for it out of my savings which I had been accumulating since I was 5 for the purchase of a boat. If I recall correctly the cost was $600. Mine predated Boston Whaler and was made by the Chestnut Hill Boat Company outside of Boston. I wish I could remember my sail numbers. For a while there was an active class association. I had a West Bend 3.5 HP engine which mounted on an aluminum plate which fit into the rudder location. Maintaing the wooden oars, thwart, centerboard and rudder/tiller was my baptism into the chores of sanding and varnishing. When I mess about in my modern Whalers I am grateful that I don't have to maintain wood! After a few years I outgrew the boat and sold it, if memory serves, for $500. -Hugh
jimp	posted 05-01-2002 11:01 PM ET (US) Argiope - I was finally able to check. One of the drawings Chuck Bennett sent me was "Squall Centerboard Handle Assembly". What's your mailing address? JimP
Argiope	posted 05-02-2002 09:49 AM ET (US) jimp, My address is: D. Dorsey 894 Weston Rd. Unit 1 Arden, NC 28704 Many thanks for the offer!
jimp	posted 05-02-2002 10:52 AM ET (US) Argiope - Made copies & in the mail. Centerboard Handle Assembly Alum. Inserts for Centerboard Slot Centerboard Handle Base Centerboard Centerboard Handle JimP
Argiope	posted 05-07-2002 09:29 PM ET (US) For the folks who contacted me: I will be sending out mail tomorrow. I hope the drawings are helpful!
daddy	posted 07-31-2010 10:20 PM ET (US) Any chance I could get a copy of those drawings? I have a 1970s Squall and it too weighs way more than it should. I would like to restore it and get it back on the water. I cant believe it once weighed 125 pounds. Thanks for any help
jimh	posted 08-01-2010 08:02 AM ET (US) There is an eight-year gap in this discussion.
Tom W Clark	posted 08-01-2010 08:46 PM ET (US) http://continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/cetaceaPage67.html
jimp	posted 08-02-2010 10:51 AM ET (US) daddy - Check your email. JimP