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ShrimpBurrito posted 04-22-2002 04:25 PM ET (US)
I've been a Whaler man for some time, but the Edgewater boats have recently caught my eye. I know BW's senior design engineer started the company, and supposedly designed another unsinkable boat. The Edgewaters also have a lifetime transferrable hull warranty. Has anyone ever compared the two? I'm specifically looking at the 18' & 20' OR compared to Edgewater's 18' & 20' center consoles. Any comments?
whalernut posted 04-22-2002 05:58 PM ET (US)
If I were you I would buy the Edgewater over the Whaler, I like the looks better, at least I did, I haven`t looked lately. The `18 Footer they were/are? making was like a flashback of sorts to the `18 Outrage!!! Jack.
JFM posted 04-22-2002 06:22 PM ET (US)
IF you are going new it's a hard choice. The Edgewater should be cheaper new, looks like a great boat. However, the resale might not make up for the lower price. Regards, Jay
B Bear posted 04-22-2002 06:30 PM ET (US)
ShrimpBurrito,
Take a look in the General Forum archives over the past year, there is quite a bit on Edgewater verses B.W. you will find lots of opinions and experiences pro and con.
If you haven’t noticed, Jack just does not like any new Whalers period.
Bear
B Bear posted 04-22-2002 06:35 PM ET (US)
whoa- just noticed - over the past 2 years.
ShrimpBurrito posted 04-22-2002 07:41 PM ET (US)
Thanks - I should have searched before posting. There's alot of good discussion on this.
Anyone out there have this dilema recently? Which boat did you buy?
Tom Byrum posted 04-22-2002 08:27 PM ET (US)
I just looked at the Edgewater 225 last Friday. Very very nice boat. I loved it as soon as I saw it. Very high quality throughout. Foam filled same as whaler's unsinkability. T-top and 4 stroke Yamaha 200 with a nice trailer for 45,000. I think a good horse trader could get it for 41,500 at least maybe less. The dealer is going to call me when he gets one in the water and I will test drive it. If I dont end up finding a good deal on a Frontier I may buy one.
whalernut posted 04-22-2002 08:41 PM ET (US)
O.K. I just looked at the Edgewater site and they have changed, they are no longer in the likeliness of Bob Daugherty, they look more like a Mako than a Classic Whaler now. So anyone looking to get an Edgewater to replace the Classic Outrage,etc., unless you find OldStock, that option is now gone. Oh well, now I wouldn`t consider an Edgewater, that said they may be very well built. Jack.
phatwhaler posted 04-22-2002 09:46 PM ET (US)
I think the Whaler/Edgewater debate boils down to two things.
1. It's probably a little more fun to own a Whaler. A Whaler will get you more looks. You'll be able to go on the net and chat with other Whaler owners, Whalers have some heritage, etc..
2. Resale. Throw a nice Whaler in the paper and it will sell quickly for a reasonable price. That Edgewter is surely not as Liquid an investment as a BW. To sell it quickly you'll have to give it away.
I do believe that an Edgewater is a comparable product. So, if the above don't matter to you, pick the one that you can get the best deal on.
phatwhaler out.
Tom Byrum posted 04-22-2002 10:06 PM ET (US)
Jack you are wrong about being built in the likeliness of Bob Daugherty at least for the 225. He had to help in the design as it has his name on the side of the boat in big letters. It also has a hull shape similar to the classics. Its a no frills high quality boat with a fishermans design. I do know that I will really, really miss my 18' outrage when I sell it though. Fact is I change my mind at least twice a week about selling it. I have to get me a bigger hull to chase tuna in a couple months or I wouldnt even consider another boat to replace my 18.
tlynch posted 04-22-2002 11:05 PM ET (US)
Whalernut,
I have to slightly disagree about the statement that the 185 CC looks more like a Mako than a whare. I own an '85 Outrage 18 and I see a striking resemblance between it and the Edgewater.
If you look at the photo labeled '185 CC Docked' the way the flat sides turn into the V hull is very similiar (I think at least).
http://www.ewboats.com/!galleries/185_gallery/images/185cc_docked.jpg
Todd
Draftmanswife posted 04-23-2002 10:11 AM ET (US)
These boats are great!
whalernut posted 04-23-2002 05:08 PM ET (US)
Good point Todd, but the model before this was almost a dead ringer for the `18 Outrage, they changed it recently, look at some used ones, and you will see a difference, and I didn`t know Bob had a hand in the 225, then he is also changing his mind slightly on hull design, and it shows in the Newer Edgewaters, the ones a couple of years ago, especially the smaller ones were very Whaler like, they have changed. Jack.
zpeed7 posted 04-23-2002 11:38 PM ET (US)
The new 22 is a great design. It's water line length is longer than any other 22 in the market. It's more comparable to a 24 or 25, that's why there's a lot less rake at the bow. This makes the boat feels like a much bigger boat in rough water. Very smart....
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Author	Topic: Edgewater vs. Whaler?
ShrimpBurrito	posted 04-22-2002 04:25 PM ET (US) I've been a Whaler man for some time, but the Edgewater boats have recently caught my eye. I know BW's senior design engineer started the company, and supposedly designed another unsinkable boat. The Edgewaters also have a lifetime transferrable hull warranty. Has anyone ever compared the two? I'm specifically looking at the 18' & 20' OR compared to Edgewater's 18' & 20' center consoles. Any comments?
whalernut	posted 04-22-2002 05:58 PM ET (US) If I were you I would buy the Edgewater over the Whaler, I like the looks better, at least I did, I haven`t looked lately. The `18 Footer they were/are? making was like a flashback of sorts to the `18 Outrage!!! Jack.
JFM	posted 04-22-2002 06:22 PM ET (US) IF you are going new it's a hard choice. The Edgewater should be cheaper new, looks like a great boat. However, the resale might not make up for the lower price. Regards, Jay
B Bear	posted 04-22-2002 06:30 PM ET (US) ShrimpBurrito, Take a look in the General Forum archives over the past year, there is quite a bit on Edgewater verses B.W. you will find lots of opinions and experiences pro and con. If you haven’t noticed, Jack just does not like any new Whalers period. Bear
B Bear	posted 04-22-2002 06:35 PM ET (US) whoa- just noticed - over the past 2 years.
ShrimpBurrito	posted 04-22-2002 07:41 PM ET (US) Thanks - I should have searched before posting. There's alot of good discussion on this. Anyone out there have this dilema recently? Which boat did you buy?
Tom Byrum	posted 04-22-2002 08:27 PM ET (US) I just looked at the Edgewater 225 last Friday. Very very nice boat. I loved it as soon as I saw it. Very high quality throughout. Foam filled same as whaler's unsinkability. T-top and 4 stroke Yamaha 200 with a nice trailer for 45,000. I think a good horse trader could get it for 41,500 at least maybe less. The dealer is going to call me when he gets one in the water and I will test drive it. If I dont end up finding a good deal on a Frontier I may buy one.
whalernut	posted 04-22-2002 08:41 PM ET (US) O.K. I just looked at the Edgewater site and they have changed, they are no longer in the likeliness of Bob Daugherty, they look more like a Mako than a Classic Whaler now. So anyone looking to get an Edgewater to replace the Classic Outrage,etc., unless you find OldStock, that option is now gone. Oh well, now I wouldn`t consider an Edgewater, that said they may be very well built. Jack.
phatwhaler	posted 04-22-2002 09:46 PM ET (US) I think the Whaler/Edgewater debate boils down to two things. 1. It's probably a little more fun to own a Whaler. A Whaler will get you more looks. You'll be able to go on the net and chat with other Whaler owners, Whalers have some heritage, etc.. 2. Resale. Throw a nice Whaler in the paper and it will sell quickly for a reasonable price. That Edgewter is surely not as Liquid an investment as a BW. To sell it quickly you'll have to give it away. I do believe that an Edgewater is a comparable product. So, if the above don't matter to you, pick the one that you can get the best deal on. phatwhaler out.
Tom Byrum	posted 04-22-2002 10:06 PM ET (US) Jack you are wrong about being built in the likeliness of Bob Daugherty at least for the 225. He had to help in the design as it has his name on the side of the boat in big letters. It also has a hull shape similar to the classics. Its a no frills high quality boat with a fishermans design. I do know that I will really, really miss my 18' outrage when I sell it though. Fact is I change my mind at least twice a week about selling it. I have to get me a bigger hull to chase tuna in a couple months or I wouldnt even consider another boat to replace my 18.
tlynch	posted 04-22-2002 11:05 PM ET (US) Whalernut, I have to slightly disagree about the statement that the 185 CC looks more like a Mako than a whare. I own an '85 Outrage 18 and I see a striking resemblance between it and the Edgewater. If you look at the photo labeled '185 CC Docked' the way the flat sides turn into the V hull is very similiar (I think at least). http://www.ewboats.com/!galleries/185_gallery/images/185cc_docked.jpg Todd
Draftmanswife	posted 04-23-2002 10:11 AM ET (US) These boats are great!
whalernut	posted 04-23-2002 05:08 PM ET (US) Good point Todd, but the model before this was almost a dead ringer for the `18 Outrage, they changed it recently, look at some used ones, and you will see a difference, and I didn`t know Bob had a hand in the 225, then he is also changing his mind slightly on hull design, and it shows in the Newer Edgewaters, the ones a couple of years ago, especially the smaller ones were very Whaler like, they have changed. Jack.
zpeed7	posted 04-23-2002 11:38 PM ET (US) The new 22 is a great design. It's water line length is longer than any other 22 in the market. It's more comparable to a 24 or 25, that's why there's a lot less rake at the bow. This makes the boat feels like a much bigger boat in rough water. Very smart....
Chap	posted 04-24-2002 10:42 AM ET (US) [url]www.thehulltruth.com/ubb/Forum19/HTML/000670.html/url]
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