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Outrage19 posted 05-03-2002 09:06 PM ET (US)   Profile for Outrage19   Send Email to Outrage19  
I had never seen nor heard of this model until I visisted this site. I have to say I am very impressed and interested in possibly purchasing one of these beauties. It seems to have the perfect layout for my intended use. Offshore tuna and Island overnights.

What year/years was this model produced? How much fuel will it hold? Any info. on what is inside the cuddy.. simple v-berth only? Any ideas on price range... ball park?

www.continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/images/22OutrageCuddyCove634x393.jpeg

Thanks in advance for any and all input!

Dave(Outrage19)

leobfish posted 05-03-2002 09:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for leobfish  Send Email to leobfish     
Dave,
Check with Steve or Bob at Boat Country in Everett, WA. I was there last weekend and there is a 22' OR Cuddy I think it has a 200 or 225 as well as a T-Top. It is pretty dirty but looks sound. The bilge and cuddy had standing water in them. The boat is there on consignment and has been for quite some time. It is parked right next to a Red 25' OR w/o power with a Super Console named Maverick. I just purchased a 22' OR Cuddy from a private party and had mine stored there while awaiting transport.
rsgwynn1 posted 05-04-2002 09:18 AM ET (US)     Profile for rsgwynn1  Send Email to rsgwynn1     
This looks a lot like my 22 Revenge with a center console added. Interesting looking boat. What year is it? I don't recall having seen it on Cetacea. Which page?
jimp posted 05-04-2002 11:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimp  Send Email to jimp     
rsgwynn1 -

See Mario Cano's 22 on Cetacea Page 48.

JimP

MCano posted 05-04-2002 08:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for MCano  Send Email to MCano     
Hello Dave,

I'm Mario Cano the owner of the 22 Outrage Cuddy featured on page 48 of Cetacia. Many of your questions are covered by the Cetacia page. I will attempt to answer those that are not.

It is my understanding that the 22 Outrage Cuddy is no longer avaiable new. My boat was manufactured in 1986. I believe this model was made only for a few years. Based on advertisements I've seen on this Whaler site, the cost for a used 22 Outrage Cuddy ranges from $12,000 to $18,000 depending on condition, engine and accessories. I purchased my boat new in 1988 for $39,000 w/o a trailer. Shortly after which, I added a radar arch and the electronics detailed on page 48, which brought my total expenditure to around $47,000.

The cabin has a 7 foot V-berth with cushions. A port-a-poti in the cabin is stored in a niche under the boat deck, which needs to be pulled out to use. You cannot stand up in the cabin. You can sit-up at the entrance end of the cabin, but not at the forward end. There are small storage compartments under the 3 V-berth panels (the two side compartments have through-hull drains). There are two light fixtures mounted at the bulkhead. A Plexiglas access hatch is situated at the forward end of the cabin. There are small port and starboard storage shelves adjacent to each berth. The cabin ceiling has a fabric headliner. A sump with a through-hull drain and wood cover is built into the deck under the port-a-poti.

My boat has the optional 120 gallon fuel tank. I believe the standard fuel thank has a 70 gallon capacity.

Please feel free to contact me if you have additional questions. Send them to the following E-mail address.

Regards,

Mario
mscano@keyway.net

Outrage19 posted 05-05-2002 08:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for Outrage19  Send Email to Outrage19     
Mario,

That is one drop dead gorgeous OR you have! I am green with envy (in a good way).

Thank you for taking the time to jump in and answer my questions. That is what I was looking for and what I wanted to hear. Sounds like the optional 120 gallon fuel cell is the ticket. I'm definately going to keep my eyes peeled for one of these.

I have been looking at the Parker 23' Sport Cabin and the 22' Davis Cortez because I want something that can handle the afternoon snot and provide a little better shelter. Also, need something that I can overnight in at the Islands and has at least 200+ miles range. After seeing your vessel I think I'd rather have that. Classic Whaler with cuddy... what a great design!!

What range do you have with the optional 120 gallon capacity?

Thanks again!!

Dave(Outrage19)
www.angelfire.com/realm/keenfish/index.html

lhg posted 05-06-2002 12:00 AM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
The Outrage Center Console Cuddy's, 22 & 25, were made from 1983 to 1989. They were about $3000 more than the open Outrage, which you can also overnight in if you have the Mills Forward shelter and don't mind a "convertible top" overhead.
David Ratusnik posted 05-06-2002 10:28 AM ET (US)     Profile for David Ratusnik  Send Email to David Ratusnik     
19-- There is a 22' OR Cuddy for sale at Sunrise Marina, Port Canaveral, FLA. The boat is mid 80's. It needs abit of TLC but is all there-Whaler Drive, transom seat, teak doors etc. The power looks like a worn out 225 Johnson (needs more power anyway). Ask $18,500 on the owner's sign. No trailer. David
Ready2Rip posted 05-06-2002 11:32 AM ET (US)     Profile for Ready2Rip  Send Email to Ready2Rip     
David,

The Outrage 22 Cuddy has a max recommeded HP rating of 240hp. How much more motor do you think it could handle? Just curious, because I think my Revenge 22 w/200hp is underpowered & was considering a 250.

Mike

David Ratusnik posted 05-06-2002 09:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Ratusnik  Send Email to David Ratusnik     
The 22' OR with a Whaler Drive maxs at 300hp. 22' w/o bracket drive does 240hp. If I had the 22' OR with cuddy I'd set up with twin 150's. Years ago this boat was typically set up with twin 140 Johnsons. To be honest, the problem with these 22' OR's with cuddy and drive is that they are big-heavy and not fishable from the bow. My opinion, if you wish to fish often (and don't need heavy cuddy protection) stick with the 22' OR w/o cuddy. Much more flexible and fast. .03 David
David Ratusnik posted 05-06-2002 09:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Ratusnik  Send Email to David Ratusnik     
Ready- Why do you think your 22' Revenge is Underpowered at 200hp?? Sounds about right. What does it do from idle?? on up ?? David
Outrage19 posted 05-06-2002 11:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for Outrage19  Send Email to Outrage19     
David R -

Thank you for the feedback. I called Sunrise Marina but they were unable to assist me with details or even the # of the owner. I did a search for Sunrise Marina and this is what I found:

www.atsunrisemarina.com/

Not sure if it is the right one but it seems to be? If you happen to be in the area please jot down the phone # to call and post it here or email it to me @ dkeen@rwli.net

I'd be much abliged!! Thanks for the lead!

Dave(Outrage19)

MCano posted 05-07-2002 01:18 AM ET (US)     Profile for MCano  Send Email to MCano     
David,

Thanks for your words of praise for Victoria. I noticed on your profile that you are in the Newport Beach area. I will be relocating Victoria from Channel Islands Harbor to Huntington Harbor at the end of this month. As soon as I get situated I'll send you an E-mail. Your welcomed to go out for a spin with me.

Mario

David Ratusnik posted 05-07-2002 07:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for David Ratusnik  Send Email to David Ratusnik     
Outrage 19- I am going fishing tomorrow and will be going by Sunrise Marina. I will take down the owner's phone number for you. Sit tight. David
David Ratusnik posted 05-07-2002 07:48 AM ET (US)     Profile for David Ratusnik  Send Email to David Ratusnik     
Outrage 19- That is the correct Sunrise Marina-just peaked at the web site you posted. The 22'OR with cuddy/drive is in their backyard. You just talked with some Zero. Call again or wait for me to get phone number tomorrow. David
Ready2Rip posted 05-07-2002 09:37 AM ET (US)     Profile for Ready2Rip  Send Email to Ready2Rip     
David,

I want more power because my boat is sloowww! Perhaps racing motorcycles has skewed my perception of speed, but it's hardly thrilling to open up the Revenge. If I could get close to 50mph, I'd be happy. As it is, I'm running about 40mph.

Didn't want to go off-topic, but I was curious about your comment. Perhaps you meant that the Johnson 225 was tired.

Thanks,

Mike

David Ratusnik posted 05-07-2002 10:38 AM ET (US)     Profile for David Ratusnik  Send Email to David Ratusnik     
Ready- I do not think a 22' Revenge (big cabin-heavy) will go 50 with a single. You want 50+ speed, rec bracket boat for twins. Somewhere on the forum a speed by power chart was displayed within the last 6 months. This chart would give you objective info. Good luck David
Outrage19 posted 05-07-2002 10:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for Outrage19  Send Email to Outrage19     
Mario, that sounds great to me. I would really like that... a test spin that is (or just a look see).
Thank You for being so gracious. I look forward to meeting and seeing the boat!

I am doing my homework now to try and purchase something in the 22'-24' range in the next year and would prefer to stick with a Whaler! Hey, I'm a Whaler guy.

David R-

Thanks for the assist. Much appreciated and good luck fishing tomarrow!! What is the target this time of year? Kings, striped bass, cobia, sails? I don't know what the favorite fish species is out your way or what time of year the different species are around to be fished for. Sounds to me like you guys have more and better options than we do out west! Go get'em!!

Dave(Outrage19)

David Ratusnik posted 05-09-2002 07:11 AM ET (US)     Profile for David Ratusnik  Send Email to David Ratusnik     
OR19- Dave, here you go. 321-453-0555. Just where I said it was. Boat needs bottom paint, buff job, teak cleaned up.

I know of another OR with cuddy- this one is 25' with twin 140 Johnsons (older). Engines have been reworked within the last 6 months. No Whaler drive. Buffed pretty. Teak an easy clean up job. Can be bought right. I'd buy it myself if I wasn't happy with my 22' OR. e mail me if you are interested.

Dave- fishing went swimmingly. 2 of us. 15 sea trout in about 3 hours. 2 fish 20 inches, yum-yum!! Others did not meet 15-20" slot size. Fun. Good luck with OR search. David

Outrage19 posted 05-09-2002 11:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for Outrage19  Send Email to Outrage19     
David R-

You are the Man!! Thank you for delivering. I will be calling them tomarrow.

Sounds like you guys conked it on the speckled trout. Way to go! Those trouts look like a cross between a Sierra Mackerel and a Covina. Wish we had the variety that you guys get to enjoy. It is pretty scratchy out here a lot of the time depending on time of year. Summertime is what I live for.
Here is a pic of a nice Yellowtail I caught last summer and can't wait to get into them again this season. It won't be long!

www.momentoffame.com/snapshot.html?id=14600

I've been entertaining every available option in my pursuit for the perfect ride.

Check out this Mod. on a 24' Skipjack Open. Not sure if you are familiar with Skipjacks but they are a west coast staple. Apparently Farralon has a mold for an after market pilot house that fits the 24' Skip and it looks really quite bitchen!! At least I thought so. It only fits the mid 80's model of Skips:

www.momentoffame.com/snapshot.html?id=14457

Thanks again for your help and good fishing to you!

Dave(Outrage19)
www.angelfire.com/realm/keenfish/index.html

PS - the 22' Outrage cuddy has got me worried sick!! (in a good way) :-)

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