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15' was the best hull
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posted 05-16-2002 12:24 AM ET (US)
Does anyone know why boston whaler discontinued the 15 hull
posted 05-16-2002 12:57 AM ET (US)
i agree, it was the best hull of the smaller whalers. smoothest also
posted 05-16-2002 08:22 AM ET (US)
Why did Porsche discontinue the Speedster, Chevy the El Camino, Ford the Mustang, and a lot of others. Marketing my man, my grandfather always bought the same black lace up dress shoes from Sears, did for 30 years, one day they no longer sold them, wanna pair of suede bucs?
Seriously I suspect it was hurting sales of the 13 and the 17, it is IMHO the best boat Whaler or anyone made under 19 feet.
I am constantly having people inquiry about buying mine.
posted 05-16-2002 01:02 PM ET (US)
This is interesting. Let me jump in. I purchased a 15' 1991 back in Feb. and
just put in the water last weekend. At the
boat ramp, a gentleman complimented about the
boat. Mentioned he had looked a good while
for a 15' but gave up and bought a nice Scout, looked like a 16', dual console, nice
boat. The interesting thing, I had made a offer on a Scout 15' back in dec. last year,
the guy accepted, but backed out and returned
my deposit. With my lower lip out, started looking again, came across the 15' bw, bought it. NEVER LOOKED BACK. I had never
considered BW seriously, maybe 13', but had
never before seen a 15' bw in person. I love
this boat, rides well, EASY TO TRAILER, and
posted 05-16-2002 02:58 PM ET (US)
very pleased to read this and had gleaned as much by perusing many previous posts and cetacea.
picked up my '86 striper last june about a month after catching a bug with only one solution: purchase a whaler.
very fortunate in that the fishing i do led me to the 15' hull over others, small AND large inland lakes, trailerability, considerations of tow vehicle (underpowered 4runner). first boat i looked at was a gem of a 15' sport and my girlfriend wouldnt even consider letting me "customize" it for fishing, i.e. ped seats, trolling motor, etc...
next was the striper, done deal. she didnt think i could find a boat fish prepped that quick, heheh.
go out with guys in 17'+ deep vees, getting wet in 3 footers, not the striper, very pleasant development. quick to plane, plenty powered with the 70, deep keel slices waves, chines throw it out.
one year later, the shine of a new toy hasnt even begun to wear off.
posted 05-16-2002 06:42 PM ET (US)
I agree with the above post. Sweet ride for a 15'er, no complaints here.
posted 05-16-2002 07:45 PM ET (US)
Ditto on the 15'. After 23 years my 15 can't be called a new toy. But it is just as much fun today as it was in 1979.
Oh, Jim a little correction. Porsche dropped the Speedster, Chevy discontinued the El Camino but Ford has continued to produce Mustangs since they were introduce in 1964. They talked about dropping it in the 1990's but the outcry from Mustang fans was so loud they quickly realized that dropping the Mustang would be a HUGE mistake.
posted 05-16-2002 10:43 PM ET (US)
i miss my 15, now that i think about it i NEVER got wet in that thing. got drenched in my thirteen and sprayed in my 17. the deadrise in the front portion of the fifteen is even greater than the outrages i believe a little on the light side but who cares. i have a 22 w/d outrage now but am considering buying another 15 to. soooo much cheaper to take on short fishing trips.
posted 05-16-2002 11:39 PM ET (US)
My 99 Montauk is the first Whaler I have owned but in the early 80s I ran a Whaler dealership in Alaska. My demo/play boat was a 15 Sport and I loved it.
Now I think my Montauk is twice the boat, I would never think of going back to a 15. The Montauk has a beter ride (at least you can stand up and make it better), it is just as dry riding, the center console makes it a much better fishing boat (tripped over the thwart seat to many times in the 15) and the visibility from the Montauk helm is far better than the 15 where you are sitting at the water line.
Not knocking the 15 it was a great boat I just like the Montauk better.
posted 05-17-2002 01:56 PM ET (US)
I owned 3 15's a 79 sport w/60 johnson, a 85 Supersport w/50 Johnson, and a 83 Center console w/70 Johnson. The CC was the best. You could stand up if it got snotty but console was like 3" too short. Had plenty of room, looked cool and just like all 3, handled great.
I think the 15' is the funnest BW ever made....maybe not the best. I will take my Montauk any day.
I remember having my 13 and my buddy had a Newport and my other bud had a 15 w/70hp. God we thought that was the fastest boat on Barnegat bay. I will say that a 13' jumps yacht wakes better. the 15, especially with a 70 has the tendency to torque right when you launch which can make a pretty scary landing. The 13 always went straight but the ride made you appreciate the 15 soooooooo much.
I will own another 15 one day or at least my kids will.....as soon as I have one that is.
posted 05-17-2002 02:30 PM ET (US)
I loved my restored 68 13 when my first two sons were small, and remember one day coming home on the Beaufort River with my wife 8 months with our third son, being beaten almost into labor!
But now that all three are grown, we end up with 5 and dog on outings. The CC 15 I considered wouldn't allow everyone to tag along. So for me, 17 feet is about as small as it gets.
Plus have to agree, the CC profile in the (16)17 hull is the only way to go once you hit that ripe old age of 40!
posted 05-17-2002 10:21 PM ET (US)
I was bummed when they stopped production on the 15.Great ride, and I love the low-profile looks.
posted 05-18-2002 06:54 AM ET (US)
A 15 with a "well placed" stand-up center console (see Killer page 28 Cetacea) is a fabulous set-up. Like flying a fighter plane and a shift of weight can steer the thing! The ride, while already smooth for a 15, is greatly improved, as is visibility, by the "stand-up" helm! Why BW never made a "stand-up" center console 15 is beyond me... but then most things are "beyond me"... my mom's favorite saying... beam me up... Clark ..Spruce Creek Navy
posted 05-18-2002 04:53 PM ET (US)
I had the pleasure of going for a ride on "killer" with Clark. It is an incredible ride indeed. He is not kidding when he describes the ride and handling! He had her planed in 8 inches of water in Spruce Creek which is littered with oyster beds. Killer turns on a dime !!! Mark
posted 05-20-2002 10:27 AM ET (US)
How do you determine where to mount the center console? I would think it should go foward of the original side console, but is there a way to determine the optimal position?
posted 05-20-2002 09:08 PM ET (US)
Bill, the 15 seems happy with console in varied positions... I have placed a CC forward of original side console and it was ok and Killer's console is mounted approx same distance as original side console, maybe a little aft. My fuel tank is under helm seat and battery is in aft starboard corner... no problems with squat or digging a hole on take off... she will ride steady with most all the hull trimmed up out of the water. Clark... SCN
posted 05-20-2002 09:25 PM ET (US)
I have owned my 1977 16 years and won't get rid of it. Have powered it with a 40 Merc, 95 Merc, 70 Merc, 65 Merc, 110 Evinrude and for a short while, even an old 135 Merc. All the engines worked well, although the 135 was all white knuckles (eg. "keel walk") unless you had a very heavy load. Have always liked the nice lines.
posted 05-21-2002 12:59 AM ET (US)
they didnt make the fifteen till 79' right?
|Tom W Clark||
posted 05-21-2002 01:39 AM ET (US)
The 15' was introduced in 1975 for the 1976 model year.
A little known bit of Whaler trivia is that the 15' initially had a 75 maximum hp rating (along with a recommended 25 hp minimum) but the next year for 1977 the rating was changed to, and thereafter remained at, 70 hp maximum (with a recommended 20 hp minimum). Does anybody know why this occurred?
posted 05-21-2002 10:00 AM ET (US)
I agree that the 15 Sport hull is the prettiest, best looking hull made (well, next to my Evinrude boat's gull wing, but they both look a lot alike from the bottom). I would like to see a 15 "stretched" into about a 25' version -- yes, I know it would bounce all over the water, but still I bet it would be a beautiful thing.
Funny, how it seems you can have more fun in smaller boats than in the larger ones. I used to go everywhere in Charleston harbor with the 15, then not as many in the 17, and am real cautious with the 22. My plan, once I get the 25 Temptation, is to add a 15 back to the fleet.
We used to anchor the 15 off of Sullivan's Island and play in the beach right there by the jetties. Watching the 15 at anchor riding the waves as the ships passed by gave my heart a thrill.
But let's face it -- anytime you're on the water in a Whaler you get a thrill, right?
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