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Cougar Guy posted 05-16-2002 09:48 PM ET (US)
Hello everyone,
I'm looking to purchase a boat next year and have always loved the looks of Boston Whaler's. The boat will be used on large Interior Lakes in Briish Columbia and I'm in a tossup between a 17 Lund Walleye Boat and a Center Console boat in the 16-18 foot range.
I'm looking at the 17 Montauk and the 16 Dauntless in the BW line although I think I'd lean towards the Montauk because I think it's more in my proverbial prince range :)
Can anyone give me some feedback on the fishibility of these boats? I'd definitely opt for the 90 4 stroke but would like a 115 . . . maybe for next years model :) How do these boats handle rougher water? The lakes here are in mountain valleys so they can get pretty rough . . . 3-5 footers are not uncommon. Would the 17 Montauk be a good boat for these types of conditions?
Finally, what are the main differences between the 17 Montauk and the 16 Dauntless? Based on what I can see, the Dauntless looks a little larger in beam and depth but I can't see much else except for hp rating.
Any help you could give would be great. I always swore that I would own a Whaler at some point :)
zpeed7 posted 05-16-2002 11:39 PM ET (US)
For the kind of water you're describing, the Montauk would be good choice, but an Outrage 18 would be a GREAT choice. It will ride a LOT better in choppy waters. It's a bit more expensive, but more than worth it in my opinion...
Good luck,
zpeed7
whalerron posted 05-17-2002 12:01 AM ET (US)
It really depends on what you want to do with the boat. The Outrage would ride well in the rough conditions and the Dauntless wouldn't be so bad either. The Montauk will have no problem in those conditions but it will beat you to death. I was out Saturday morning on the Chesapeake Bay in 3 foot waves and my "non-smirk-montauk" handled the water just find. I just couldn't go to fast without getting pounded. But, we do alot of crabbing and bottom fishing and both of those activities have us working of the edge of the boat. For this activity, I would always want the Montauk. I would love to have an Outrage for the rougher conditions...
whalernut posted 05-17-2002 04:01 PM ET (US)
Whalerron, what year "Non-Smirk Montauk" do you have?? I believe they were made between 1974-mid-76`?? I would love to have one of those, I still love my 73` `16 Currituck, but my body is telling me Center Console, but keep the hull form!! Jack.
B Bear posted 05-22-2002 11:21 PM ET (US)
Cougar Guy,
Take a look at that 16 Dauntless, it has a higher freeboard, more storage, great range with a 45 gal under the deck fuel tank and a Deep Vee not quite as deep as an Outrage but enough to handle chop and skinny water. This hull is best served by a 115 HP motor. Don’t discount it, I took mine out the other day with a chop on the water and I impressed the heck out of my passenger on the ride and how dry it was. He observed that this boat seemed larger than its true size, he used to be a clam out of Long Island, and has past experience with boats.
My advice and take them all for a ride, figure out what you want to do and see which one fits the bill for you.

Good Luck!
Bear
The Chesapeake Explorer posted 05-22-2002 11:36 PM ET (US)
The 17 ft Montauk is a great boat that will give you many many years use in your situation. Yes they can handle your situation with ease, as mine handles the Atlantic , Ocean City Maryland inlet in 6 foot + seas on windy days with tide. Back the Whaler down to a 2000 RPM speed (with my 90 Evinrude) the bow goes up about 5 feet off the water and she will crawl across all kinds of nasty stuff at about 10 knots. As the water gets rougher you can feel the bouyence in the Whaler like rideing a elevator up and down . I see you want a 90 HP motor. Thats more then enough a 75 hp 4 stroke Honda has plenty of power or a Yamaha 80. I see quite a few Chesapeake bay Whalers now with the 50 Honda 4 stroke which I have considered for repowering as my 88 Evinrude 90 has 1500+ hours. They give great gas mileage but I think I will go for at least a 75 HP. With a 21 inch pitch prop when my boat was new (not bottom painted) in the fall on a dry day I could get about 4600 RPM for a measured mile of 50 MPH with myself aboard. With the engine now and the boat bottom painted I get about 42 MPH with a 17 pitch prop.
whalerron posted 05-22-2002 11:38 PM ET (US)
whalernut,
I guess I misled you when I said "non-smirk". I should have said "pre-smirk". Mine is a 1969 16'7" hull. It is one heck of a stable platform for fishing and crabbing but it will beat you to death in rough water. It also tends to be a wet ride when heading into the wind on a rough day.
- ron
Don Fisher posted 05-23-2002 08:03 AM ET (US)
Montauk is a great choice. Remember, the Outrage is a much heavier boat to tow around than is the Montauk. I'd go with the Montauk unless you really need the extra size of an Outrage.
Leener posted 05-23-2002 09:25 AM ET (US)
Cougar guy,
Reread zpeed7 remarks. I held out for a clean used 18 Outrage. I wanted something a little more substantial than the Montauk for both room and RIDE. Both are safe and would serve you well. I LOVE my 89 18' OR. It handles the rough stuff better than I expected. Dryer and smoother ride. I can get it in an 8' boathouse slip and pull it with a Ford Explorer without strain.
I like the looks and demensions of the "older" OR series and, therefore, have no experience (or interest) in the Dauntless series.
Good lick with your decission.
Leener

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Author	Topic: Boston Whaler Rookie
Cougar Guy	posted 05-16-2002 09:48 PM ET (US) Hello everyone, I'm looking to purchase a boat next year and have always loved the looks of Boston Whaler's. The boat will be used on large Interior Lakes in Briish Columbia and I'm in a tossup between a 17 Lund Walleye Boat and a Center Console boat in the 16-18 foot range. I'm looking at the 17 Montauk and the 16 Dauntless in the BW line although I think I'd lean towards the Montauk because I think it's more in my proverbial prince range :) Can anyone give me some feedback on the fishibility of these boats? I'd definitely opt for the 90 4 stroke but would like a 115 . . . maybe for next years model :) How do these boats handle rougher water? The lakes here are in mountain valleys so they can get pretty rough . . . 3-5 footers are not uncommon. Would the 17 Montauk be a good boat for these types of conditions? Finally, what are the main differences between the 17 Montauk and the 16 Dauntless? Based on what I can see, the Dauntless looks a little larger in beam and depth but I can't see much else except for hp rating. Any help you could give would be great. I always swore that I would own a Whaler at some point :)
zpeed7	posted 05-16-2002 11:39 PM ET (US) For the kind of water you're describing, the Montauk would be good choice, but an Outrage 18 would be a GREAT choice. It will ride a LOT better in choppy waters. It's a bit more expensive, but more than worth it in my opinion... Good luck, zpeed7
whalerron	posted 05-17-2002 12:01 AM ET (US) It really depends on what you want to do with the boat. The Outrage would ride well in the rough conditions and the Dauntless wouldn't be so bad either. The Montauk will have no problem in those conditions but it will beat you to death. I was out Saturday morning on the Chesapeake Bay in 3 foot waves and my "non-smirk-montauk" handled the water just find. I just couldn't go to fast without getting pounded. But, we do alot of crabbing and bottom fishing and both of those activities have us working of the edge of the boat. For this activity, I would always want the Montauk. I would love to have an Outrage for the rougher conditions...
whalernut	posted 05-17-2002 04:01 PM ET (US) Whalerron, what year "Non-Smirk Montauk" do you have?? I believe they were made between 1974-mid-76`?? I would love to have one of those, I still love my 73` `16 Currituck, but my body is telling me Center Console, but keep the hull form!! Jack.
B Bear	posted 05-22-2002 11:21 PM ET (US) Cougar Guy, Take a look at that 16 Dauntless, it has a higher freeboard, more storage, great range with a 45 gal under the deck fuel tank and a Deep Vee not quite as deep as an Outrage but enough to handle chop and skinny water. This hull is best served by a 115 HP motor. Don’t discount it, I took mine out the other day with a chop on the water and I impressed the heck out of my passenger on the ride and how dry it was. He observed that this boat seemed larger than its true size, he used to be a clam out of Long Island, and has past experience with boats. My advice and take them all for a ride, figure out what you want to do and see which one fits the bill for you. Good Luck! Bear
The Chesapeake Explorer	posted 05-22-2002 11:36 PM ET (US) The 17 ft Montauk is a great boat that will give you many many years use in your situation. Yes they can handle your situation with ease, as mine handles the Atlantic , Ocean City Maryland inlet in 6 foot + seas on windy days with tide. Back the Whaler down to a 2000 RPM speed (with my 90 Evinrude) the bow goes up about 5 feet off the water and she will crawl across all kinds of nasty stuff at about 10 knots. As the water gets rougher you can feel the bouyence in the Whaler like rideing a elevator up and down . I see you want a 90 HP motor. Thats more then enough a 75 hp 4 stroke Honda has plenty of power or a Yamaha 80. I see quite a few Chesapeake bay Whalers now with the 50 Honda 4 stroke which I have considered for repowering as my 88 Evinrude 90 has 1500+ hours. They give great gas mileage but I think I will go for at least a 75 HP. With a 21 inch pitch prop when my boat was new (not bottom painted) in the fall on a dry day I could get about 4600 RPM for a measured mile of 50 MPH with myself aboard. With the engine now and the boat bottom painted I get about 42 MPH with a 17 pitch prop.
whalerron	posted 05-22-2002 11:38 PM ET (US) whalernut, I guess I misled you when I said "non-smirk". I should have said "pre-smirk". Mine is a 1969 16'7" hull. It is one heck of a stable platform for fishing and crabbing but it will beat you to death in rough water. It also tends to be a wet ride when heading into the wind on a rough day. - ron
Don Fisher	posted 05-23-2002 08:03 AM ET (US) Montauk is a great choice. Remember, the Outrage is a much heavier boat to tow around than is the Montauk. I'd go with the Montauk unless you really need the extra size of an Outrage.
Leener	posted 05-23-2002 09:25 AM ET (US) Cougar guy, Reread zpeed7 remarks. I held out for a clean used 18 Outrage. I wanted something a little more substantial than the Montauk for both room and RIDE. Both are safe and would serve you well. I LOVE my 89 18' OR. It handles the rough stuff better than I expected. Dryer and smoother ride. I can get it in an 8' boathouse slip and pull it with a Ford Explorer without strain. I like the looks and demensions of the "older" OR series and, therefore, have no experience (or interest) in the Dauntless series. Good lick with your decission. Leener