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posted 05-17-2002 11:14 PM ET (US)
My wife suffers from acute motion sickness. She gets seasick looking at the water, riding in a car, etc. If it moves , it affects her. Double doses of drammamine will sedate her but she will not be very comfortable as it affects her inner ear, her equilibrium and then she cannot move around much.
But the problem gets a little more complicated because she cannot wear a watch. There is something about an electrical charge between her body and the watch that will cause the watch to run fast or slow. Her grandmother was the same way. The wrist acupuncture band did not work for her either.
So has anyone had a similar problem, if so what worked for you. Has anyone used the Relief Band and had some modicum of success with it.
posted 05-17-2002 11:18 PM ET (US)
Has she tried a "Scope" patch?
posted 05-17-2002 11:32 PM ET (US)
No, have you had success with it. Does it require a doctor's prescription?
posted 05-18-2002 12:16 AM ET (US)
We fished commercialy for salmon out of Bodega Bay for about 5 years and I had a heck of a time with sickness. Dramamine put me to sleep standing up, but it did keep me healthy if I took it about 2 hours before we went out. Tried the patches behind the ear, no help. A pharmisist turned me on to "Triptone" little red/white capsuls, they helped a lot, I don't know if they are still available or not. A friend of mine gets sick on ocean cruises, he uses "Sea Bands" (I think thats the brand name) and is sold on them.
An old fisherman saw me getting off the boat one afternoon after being sick all day, he said "the best thing for sea sickness is Twinkies"
posted 05-18-2002 12:58 AM ET (US)
Raw is best, but ginger cookies work too.
This is proven.
posted 05-18-2002 07:47 AM ET (US)
Thanks for that tip - I now have a practical reason to maintain my stash of candied ginger! (For those who have not had the pleasure, it is a rare treat, especially if fresh. Don't wait for seasickness to try it.)
posted 05-20-2002 08:49 AM ET (US)
I don't know personally of course, but I've heard Gonja works really good.
posted 05-20-2002 09:13 AM ET (US)
James, those Scope patches work really well. I too have been plagued with motion sickness to the degree that I can't ride in the backseat of a car without getting sick. "Dramamine I" doesn't do anything for me except make me tired. "Dramamine II" and "Bonine" contain Meclizine and that helps somewhat but the Scope patches work as advertised. They are prescription and they are called something like "Scopapoline" but the docs refer to them as "Scope" patches.
posted 05-20-2002 10:05 AM ET (US)
Scopolamine, marketed in the patch form by Novartis as "Transderm Scop" may be something worth discussing with your physician. Take all of your wife's medications with you to avoid possible drug-drug interactions, and ask him to review her medical history. I've prescribed these patches before with tremendous success. The patients were able to enjoy an extended cruise with the only reported side effects of dry mouth and slightly blurred vision.
Placing the patch behind the ear AT LEAST 4 hours prior to travel is recommended. The manufacturer's literature reports that the patches can provide three days' worth of motion sickness prophylaxis. I have suggested that the patients put the patch on the night before their trip. That seems to have the greatest efficacy.
|John from Madison CT||
posted 05-20-2002 11:43 AM ET (US)
Hello....My name is John....and I am a Yacker.
Yes, I am a big boater but given the right conditions I can throw up with the best.
Car sick, Air Sick, Carnival Sick , move me up and down, spin me around and I am very sensitive to motion sickness. Very sensitive.
Here is what I've tried:
Dramamine - Has worked at times but I've also yacked up bile for 8 hours.
Bonine - Same as Dramamine. Not a sure thing.
Scopamine Patch: Threw up with that too.
ReliefBand Electronic Stimulator: So far, knock on wood, the couple of times I tried it I felt OK, not great, but OK.
Now for the weird part, I don't get sick all the time. Just yesterday, I was on my Montauk with my son in 2-4' seas, getting thrown around while adrift fishing. Felt pretty good. There is something about being busy and in fresh air with a nice breeze that seems to help me enormously. Also, knowing that I can go in anytime I want seems to make a difference.
Put me in a big Cabin Cruiser with the lovery smell of Diesel exhaust, then get out of the way as I make my way for the transom.
Hope this helps,
posted 05-20-2002 08:11 PM ET (US)
John - I'm with you, I've been sick on the flat ocean; and then I've been OK in 6 to 8 foot seas (maybe because I was scared silly).Some meds work sometimes; others don't. "Bonine" puts me into a sound sleep. So far the patch has worked for me.
posted 05-20-2002 10:31 PM ET (US)
Last time I went out fishing on my insurance agent's 36' Sport fish, I was trying the new relief band that runs $120 and runs off a couple of batteries. It's supposed to zap you in just the right place, but I found that positioning was difficult. Short story: yacked several times in less than 3 hours out in 4-6' seas. I'm going back to Dramamine, taken before I leave the dock. No OJ, No Cereal, and No Doughnuts before the trip next time either. Maybe I'll see if fish like eggs...
posted 05-21-2002 12:05 AM ET (US)
Thanks to all for the insights.
We are going to talk to our family doctor and see about the patches. I am going to get the relief band anyways, and the ginger cookies sound like a good idea. Have to eat something anyways.
She had told me not to expect too much from her when I get the new 170 Montauk because of her chronic motion sickness, and I just think that we can do better than that.
posted 05-21-2002 12:43 PM ET (US)
My latest issue of "Trailer Boats Magazine" arrived in the mail yesterday, and there in the midst of the boat tests was an article about Motion Sickness. It gives pro's, and con's of the various things out there. It's worth a look if you haven't read it yet.
posted 05-21-2002 08:38 PM ET (US)
Definitely try the Scopolamine.
I've used it 60 miles off shore with nothing but walls of water while shark fishing (which means your motor is off, no trolling} and got nothing so much as a belch. The doc is right, though, if you put it on the night before, you wake up a bit dizzy, but it fades in 30 minutes or so. Additionally, the dry mouth thing is real -- keep plenty of snapple on board. I have actually found that I can cut a patch in half and stick it on behind my ear(not recommended for or against in the package insert) and that helps just as well with fewer side effects. But again, I am not a physician.
You do need a script from a MD to access. That isn't typically a problem. If I remember rightly, you get four patches per prescription.
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