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posted 05-20-2002 02:11 PM ET (US)
Heading back to Perdido next week Montauk in tow - just made reservations this morning.
Had a blast last year except for worrying about the engine. Won't have to do that this year.
Anyone know what's biting what and where?
posted 05-20-2002 03:17 PM ET (US)
Are you renting or do you own a condo? We have vacationed for the last 30 years in the area from Perdido Key to Orange Beach. We wouldn't trade that area for any other.
Lately, we've stayed at the Eden or across the street at Sea Spray (which provides great access to the bay). This summer will be special because its the 1st one with my Whaler and you can bet that trip is coming soon. As a consequence, though, I have no idea about fishing that area.
Let me know.
posted 05-20-2002 03:25 PM ET (US)
Drive west on the beach road to the Alabama Point Bridge. You will see jettys on each side of the pass going into the Gulf. Anchor and fish with live shrimp. Specks, reds, Spanish and other fish are there. You can launch at Perdido Key-it makes for a nice ride.
posted 05-20-2002 03:31 PM ET (US)
We'll be staying at the Perdido Skye. They don't have a dock but said they thought they could get us one at Heron Watch - not too far away I hope.
Last year bout all we caught was catfish. Still have em in the freezer. We eat em' up here so figured I try salt-water ones. Havent gotten around to it yet though. Only caught one Red last year and it was an inch too short to keep.
If your around next week keep an eye out for the Montauk. I have a mahogany sign on the back of the seat - "Ann Teak". Blue bimini, Tennessee Registration. I'll be monitoring 16.
Seahag - wish I owned, If I did, I'd be there every week.
posted 05-20-2002 09:49 PM ET (US)
Landlocked, My brother has a place in orange beach and I've fished out of perdido pass several times. Get a alabama marine information calender from any tackle or sports shop(It lists the gps #'s) and go out to where they sunk the old perdido pass bridge. There are about 6 or 7 sites. First one is about 7 miles out--2cd one is about 14 miles out. I caught a bunch of nice snapper on these reefs. Have also caught fish at 3 mile barge about 2 1/2 miles out. I saw a shark(17 miles out) out there that came up to my boat, tilted back and looked me dead in the eye. He was at least 14 foot long. It was a sight I'll never forget. He was huge and intimidating. Better to go on a week day. It's bumper to bumper boats on the weekend. It is a beautiful place.
posted 05-20-2002 10:20 PM ET (US)
Scott - do you fish on the bottom for snapper? shrimp ok for bait? Sorry about my ignorance-I'm learning.
14' shark. Hmm. don't think I'll mention that to the Mrs. I'd probably have to put down the rod in favor of ol' .357.
posted 05-20-2002 11:06 PM ET (US)
Be careful with the pass into the Gulf at Alabama point. It is a very narrow opening from Perdido Bay in to the Gulf. A combination a tide and surf can make the journey a rough ride. I have seen the swells get very large with hardly any distance between them (I witnessed surfers in the pass once).
posted 05-21-2002 11:28 AM ET (US)
Also....don't eat saltwater catfish. Nasty.
You may want to troll along the beaches with spoons or a McDonald's straw on a hook. This will catch Spanish Mackerel which are very tasty and fun to catch. We'll look for you!
posted 05-21-2002 12:45 PM ET (US)
LL, invest in a cast net and an aerated bait bucket. Catch native minnows, use a medium hook, mid size split shot sinker and hook the bait fish just above the mouth under the eyes. Make sure the bait fish can swim, if not lighten the split shot. Try the breakers , jetties or reefs. We have caught the most fish in that area with this method. Dead shrimp on the bottom usually get cat fish, DON'T EAT! Regards, Jay P.S. Not to start any arguments, the other ways work well also.
posted 05-21-2002 09:59 PM ET (US)
Thanks guys - and thanks for the warning on the catfish. Maby I'll take them back down with me and use them for bait. Do they just taste strong or is there something in them that can make you sick?. I probably brought 5lbs home with me. Even mix between gafftop sailfin and white cats. I'll take your advice and discard, just wondering what's wrong with them.
spent the last two nights getting the trailer ready. Going to run down to the lake and pick up the boat tomorrow. In case I run into you I"ll apologize for the montauks appearance in advance. Two months in the boat house has really messed her up. I don't have time to redo the teak bout all I'll be able to do is wash the bird *#! off and wax. My rental on the boathouse expires in June. Think I'm going to trailer from now on.
Maby I'll see some of you next week.
posted 05-22-2002 12:53 PM ET (US)
One more tip: pick up several pink skirted, double hook midsize trolling lures. Run them (at least two) with one just past your stern most wake and the other 10-15 feet further back. Boat speed at around 4-5 kts. If you do this in 70+ feet of water (roughly 5 miles out), you'll have a great chance at some wonderful King Mackeral. You won't catch the huge ones, but you should be able to snag some 25+ pounders.
posted 05-22-2002 01:29 PM ET (US)
LL,if you drift over to Alabama you'll need a separate saltwater fishing license. I would stay east but not to far or you'll hit my favorite hole. I would like there to be a couple left when I go in a couple of weeks. Regards, Jay
posted 05-22-2002 01:38 PM ET (US)
Landlocked, almost no one here in Florida will even try to eat a saltwater catfish, although I've heard some say the gafftop ones are edible. They won't make you sick, but they're supposedly very strong & fishy...and being frozen for a year would make them worse I'd imagine. Saltwater catfish are nothing like their freshwater counterparts when it comes to eating.
It's been too long since I've been to that area to advise on the fishing...but if you're catching lots of catfish you were probably fishing over a mud bottom...not good. If you're catching alot of catfish it's time to find another spot. Try to find grassy bottom areas (bayside) about 3' deep or so, cast jigs or live bait for seatrout.
posted 05-22-2002 02:18 PM ET (US)
I guess when you have so many excellent alternatives, why try the cats!. To be honest, I'm not even too fond of freshwater ones. Just hated to come home completely empty-handed.
I'll stop by a tackle shop down there and get some pointers on where best to troll etc. That sounds like something I want to try.
posted 05-22-2002 02:20 PM ET (US)
You wouldn't happen to have the lat/long of that favorite spot would ya. I won't do too much damage in 4 days ;).
posted 05-22-2002 03:13 PM ET (US)
We frequent the waters of Appalach., St. George's, Cape San Blas. Best spot, the cut through St. George. You will be to far away though, 125 miles (I hope). Regards, Jay
posted 05-22-2002 03:18 PM ET (US)
LL, if you like specs and reds try the flats with a fly. Regards, Jay
posted 05-22-2002 04:04 PM ET (US)
JFM, I fish that area regularly. Maybe I'll see you there some day. My Montauk's name is Miss Mabel. I'm in the process of buying a house at mexico beach now. Hope to see you
posted 05-22-2002 04:16 PM ET (US)
LL, I've got a tried and true spot in the Destin, FL waters if you ever get a little further east.
N 30 18.761
Troll a big (1/4 mile) circle over this structure. A secondary spot:
N 30 18.294
posted 05-22-2002 04:36 PM ET (US)
I'm home today with the kids, which explains all of my inane posts, but ...
living in Nj is really tough because of the limited fishing season and the limited fish and the limited places to go on the water. Till I statred monitoring this website, I did not fully appreciate all of the baoting/ fiching activities in florida and the south generally. Here, we have shallow bays and then the cold ocean--at least in the great lakes, they have cool places to cruise etc, with lots of nice scenery.
I'm enjoying reading the posts about fishin and boating in the south, but, frankly, envious.
I now know why Bigshot moved south!
posted 05-22-2002 04:53 PM ET (US)
Please,...... it is beautiful today, should have made a day trip with the kids to LBI. Plenty of blues, bass and weaks in the bay right now. :)
May run into you this summer. Enjoy.
posted 05-22-2002 05:53 PM ET (US)
I live about 50 miles from Perdido. I am will be off for 5 days for the holidays. I am normaly closer to the Gulf Shores side, but may put in down there this weekend if weather is calm. If you see an 11' supersport, stop by and say hi. Quite a few shark attacks reported in the news last year, fwiw. Also be careful if you come in from the Alabama side.
posted 05-22-2002 10:54 PM ET (US)
Thanks WW. Broke down in Loxley last year so wasn't breaking any speed records. I'll watch it this year. May come in a different way though.
My boat is a 77 montauk. blue bottom paint. New Merc 90 with the Tracker Logo. I'll try and keep the radio where I can hear it. I'll listen for either Landlocked or AnnTeak. Try giving me a shout if you are in the area and maby we can hook up.
I expect to be on the water Tues evening or by mid-day Wed at the latest.
Thanks for the info.
posted 05-23-2002 08:31 AM ET (US)
Scottfarm, We are suposed to keep it a secret! Mexico Beach is very nice. I'll be down at our place in St. George's in 3 weeks with the 13' Sport. You can't miss it, it has a big Yammy 40 4 stroke hanging on it. Regards, Jay
posted 06-02-2002 01:38 AM ET (US)
Just got back. Didn't catch many fish but gained a lot of new experience and had the time of my life. Did the circuit yesterday (Fri) out Perdido pass, east along the beach back in at Pensacola pass through the cut and back to the dock.
Sea was 2-3' with the roughest coming back in at Pensacola. Took one wake off a coast guard cutter off my port side over the gunnel but other than that, a total blast.
This was my second trip down and for most of this trip and last, I stayed in the old river and just off the beach outside Perdido Pass. Friday, I finally got the courage to go all the way around. Got a little stressed when the water got rough but kept it slow, put on my life jacket and kept going. The montauk did great but now I know what you guys have been saying about a rough ride.
For anyone within driving distance, I Highly recommend this area. I can't wait to head back down in September.
posted 06-02-2002 11:45 PM ET (US)
I probably passed you down there that weekend. I live across the bay and was riding around in my 23' Conquest in the same area.
1998 23' Conquest
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