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Monnas Rock posted 05-22-2002 12:49 PM ET (US)   Profile for Monnas Rock   Send Email to Monnas Rock  
My pursuit of a Montauk is heating up! I just looked at a 1986 that, except for a couple of minor gelcoat dings, looks like new. What a beauty! The owner is way over priced and he knows it and indicates he's very flexable. He is asking $12,000 but thats another story. My question is about the canvas. It has three seperate Mills canvas pieces. The owner says he has never had them all up but, it seems there is a regular Bimini, along with a front mounted enclosure with a wiundow and a second, smaller Bimini. I know that Mills made an enclosure for the Montauk but I can't find any pictures. There is a custom enclosure shown. Are there any pictures of this setup buried in other topics? Can anyone give me some info on this canvas? I am supposed to take a closer look this Sunday and see all the canvas up. Two other questions, This boat has a 90hp Johnson and a 15hp Johnson kicker. The 90 has an oil tank and water/fuel seperator mounted in the port stern corner and a bait well pump mounted in the starboard corner. Will a BW rear seat still mount over the top of these accessories? The rear seat is about the only option this boat doesn't have and I would sure like one. Second, It's sitting on a galvanized E-Z-Loader (bunk) trailer. Can these trailers be modified to a swing away tongue?
Monnas Rock posted 05-22-2002 12:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for Monnas Rock  Send Email to Monnas Rock     
Oops! Make that Mills 3 PIECE canvas for Montauk.
jimh posted 05-22-2002 01:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
The usual arrangement of canvas from Mills for a boat like a Montauk would be:

--forward shelter; canvas cover with hinged frames that stows forward in bow;

--flying top; a "small" bimini top with hinged frames that stows forward in bow;

--windshield; a zip in place clear windshield that usually joins the forward shelter to the flying top.

--side curtains; zip/snap in place canvas/clear weather curtains that enclose the sides of the boat, snapping to gunwales and zippering to flying top.

The larger bimini top is known as a "sun top" in Mills parlance.


JFM posted 05-22-2002 01:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for JFM  Send Email to JFM     
Monnas, it could be a full mooring cover, a bimini and a center console cover. Regards, Jay
Taylor posted 05-22-2002 02:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for Taylor  Send Email to Taylor     
There is a picture of AndyGere's boat at the NorthCal rendezvous with his Mills canvas up. (Seems to be a broken link right now, though). There is also a good shot of WhaleLure second group from the left in the great panarama shot from the North Chanel Rendezvous. Its not a Montauk, but you can get the idea. See the Rendevous section (not the forum, go up a level).

This is a *great* feature to have on a used boat, and worth some extra money in my book. Mine is not Mills, but it still eally makes the boat much more versatile, especially here in the North West. When my kids start to get cold, I just put up the forward shelter and they dive right in there and are happy as clams.

Makes a Montauk sort of like a convertible car rather than an open roadster.

It does sort of confuse me why a boat would have a flying top (part of the shelter set) and a bimini too. Sounds a little redundant. Are you sure that the third 'piece' is not the side curtains and windshield.

Taylor posted 05-22-2002 02:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for Taylor  Send Email to Taylor     
Regarding the seat, I think it sits on the lower lip/step on the side of the boat, which should be at the same level as the top of the engine well. This would clear my separator and battery box. I don't have the bait well or oil tank, so you'll have to look and see how high these are.
Chap posted 05-22-2002 02:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chap  Send Email to Chap     
Mills has some sketches on the site now.


Monnas Rock posted 05-22-2002 02:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for Monnas Rock  Send Email to Monnas Rock     

All three pieces have aluminum bows and look similar to typical Biminis (three different sizes) with zip-on boot covers. I'm pretty sure that two of them are the flying top and the Bimini top but, the third one..? There are two wood blocks mounted to the inside of each forward gunwale, each with a twisted (about 1/4 turn), chromed, attachment point. Additionally there are several pad-eyes for the tension straps to snap to. I didn'd see any signs of side curtains but, they may, very well be there, somewhere. No signs of snaps on the gunwales for securing side curtains.I'm sure all pieces are Mills but I've only seen the silk tag on one of them so far. If I have the makings of an enclosure but some canvas is missing, does Mills offer things like windshields and side curtains seperately?
Thanks for your help.


Monnas Rock posted 05-22-2002 02:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for Monnas Rock  Send Email to Monnas Rock     
Thanks for the link to Mills. Great photos and sketches. I'm beginning to see how everything fits together. Looks like the two forward, wood mounting blocks may be for the forward enclosure.

I'll try to find those pictures. Thanks for the seat info.


andygere posted 05-22-2002 02:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Monnas, sounds just like my boat. Here's a few photos. E-mail me with any questions.

Taylor posted 05-22-2002 08:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for Taylor  Send Email to Taylor     
Nice pictures, Andy.

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