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HookedOnHer posted 05-28-2002 02:14 PM ET (US)
I am considering buying this boat on e-bay. Is there any thing good or bad about this model. It was not around long, four or five years?
peteinsf posted 05-28-2002 04:11 PM ET (US)
There cool boats, I think a very few were willing to pay the price for an offshore quality boat to putt around in so they didn't sell well...
That 2200 on ebay had the first interior shots I have ever seen, small but plush. I would guess the 25' 2500 would be big enough to sleep in comfortably.
I also talked to a guy who had a Temptation 2000 for sale for around $9K in FL. Never did get a good photo of that boat, it would have made a good "spring break at the lake" boat...
If it were me the 2200 (or a 2000) would be good for towing around and a 2500 would be a cool coastal cruiser... (my .02)
HookedOnHer posted 05-28-2002 09:21 PM ET (US)
I would also like to add another question, you mention price, how much were they going for new compared to same size hull of a OUTRAGE.The seller also mentioned his boat was rated for 400hp,but on this site it is described with max of 300hp. Whats correct.
Tom W Clark posted 05-28-2002 09:41 PM ET (US)
HookedOnHer,
The Temptation 2200 with Whaler Drive had either a maximum hp rating of 300 or 400 hp. It seems rather bizarre but apparently they first gave this boat a 400 hp rating and thought better of it. In the case of this boat, it's maximum hp is whatever it says on its ratings placard. It may well be 400 hp.
In August of 1987 the Temptation 2200 with Whaler drive had a list price of $26,950 ($41,775 in year 2001 dollars).
As a comparison, the Outrage 22' had a list price of $21,630 ($33,525 in year 2001 dollars)
Tom W Clark posted 05-28-2002 09:43 PM ET (US)
The Outrage 22 price above is the price of the Whaler Drive equipped model.
Of course these are list prices and not inclusive of power or options.
HookedOnHer posted 05-28-2002 11:38 PM ET (US)
Tom thanks for the info. When you say boat equipped does that include motor. the original price the seller is quoted $72,000 with tax and dealer prep. Some kind of prep or a mis print? The motors he has on the boat are twin Johnson 150hp VRO's. Do you by chance have prices on these new in 87.
mbking1 posted 05-28-2002 11:47 PM ET (US)
Thanks to Tom for stating the values in both present value and past value. This info is very handy in making accurate comparisons. Mark
peteinsf posted 05-29-2002 12:03 AM ET (US)
Tom are you sure about that, 400HP on the 2200? Sounds like an aircraft. Did any 22' whaler drive Outrages or Revenges get the 400 rating? Where did you find that?
peteinsf posted 05-29-2002 12:04 AM ET (US)
Tom are you sure about that, 400HP on the 2200? Sounds like an aircraft. Did any 22' whaler drive Outrages or Revenges get the 400 rating? Where did you find that?
Tom W Clark posted 05-29-2002 03:04 AM ET (US)
Pete,
Yes I am sure of that. I have seen the placard on a Whaler Drive equipped 2200 and it said 400 hp. There was also a thread not too long ago where we discussed (argued about) this and it was confirmed from some other source as well.
HookedOnHer,
$72,000 seems a bit high but a pair of 150's back then probably cost about $14,000 and options like hydraulic steering ($1463) were not cheap either. I really don't know how one would get to $72,000 though.
Tin Man posted 05-29-2002 08:29 AM ET (US)
I also looked at this boat on ebay seriously. Here is the answer I got back from him regarding speeds and range:
"The Coast Guard Plaque reads:
11 Persons or 1515 Lbs.
Or
2655 Lbs. Persons motor and gear.
400 HP. motor.
The fuel tank is new it is over 85 gallons.
the 3/4 throttle or cruise consumption of these motors is approximately 18
to 22 gallons an hour at a speed of 30 knots. so reasonably you are looking
at 80-90 nautical miles safely with 1/4 to 1/5 of a tank left. The prudent
mariner always wants 1/3 going out one 1/3 coming back and one third to
account for currents, wind and other"
Not really enough range for me unless I repower with Opti's or 4 Strokes. Neat looking boat though. I considered it just to have next to the Harpoon and tender to round out my collection of "I didn't know Bostom Whaler made" boats.
Ready2Rip posted 05-29-2002 11:41 AM ET (US)
I looked at a Temptation 2500 before purchasing my Revenge. The Temptation is based on the Outrage hull, so it should be as seaworthy as any of the Whalers. The cabin space has a very low ceiling, so that's something you'll want to consider. You really have to get down on your hands & knees to get down below, and since I'm 6'4" that pretty much broke the deal for me.
If there's any way you can check one out locally, you should. That way you'll know if it's a good fit for you.
Good luck!
Mike
HookedOnHer posted 05-29-2002 03:54 PM ET (US)
All great feedback. Still looking for someone that has personal experience with the Temptation 2200. Good and bad...performance,economy,trailering ect.
lhg posted 05-29-2002 06:15 PM ET (US)
Regarding engine pricing "back then". In 1989 I paid $12,600 for a PAIR of brand new Merc Counter rotating 200Hp engines, carb induction, from Sundance Marine in Ft Lauderdale. I remember pricing a pair of the 150's at the same time, and they were about $10,000. I was also quoted $9000 for a pair of 115's. SS Laser II props were $600 additional.
So I would think that a pair of OMC 150's in 1987 would have been about $8500-9,000., depending an how much the guy bargained the Dealer.
No way in hell's creation that 22 Temptation cost $72000 in 1987. More like $38,000 would be correct. In those days you could get 15% off list real easily on the boat.
In 1985, I paid $3600 for a new Merc 115.
David Ratusnik posted 05-30-2002 08:17 AM ET (US)
The price is nuts. These boats languish by comparison to the hot market for Montauks, Outrages and to a degree Revenges. The reason the Temptation was in production for so short a period was that Whaler tried to compete with Donzi etc in making a babe appealing boat. Whaler historically was/is at its best making open fishing type boats. Other manufacturers do a much better job than Whaler in the sex appeal category. Stay away from the Temptation and find yourself a nice clean Revenge. Better looks, better resale and better overall design. My .03 The Temptation was/is a dog. David
Tin Man posted 05-30-2002 09:32 AM ET (US)
Here's what appealed to me about this boat aside from being a whaler. The boat was original and offered for sale by the original owner. Still had the engines it came with and as far as I could tell was properly maintained with low hours. The boat was/is owned by a doctor who obviously took a lot of pride in it and has kept it in excellent condition. If you are looking for that style boat, then this would be a good one to consider, even to the extent on paying some sort of premium.
I liked it and still do. The problem with it is in the market segment, It is in a segment where it is more about style and speed than quality and ability. The one I have seen was solid and appealing. More so to my mid-forties eyes than to my teenagers. I think I woud have made a run for this one had the deal closed on my Edgewater.
RMBW posted 05-30-2002 11:47 AM ET (US)
HookedOnHer, have tried to email you several times at you listed address and have not been able to do so (sdeeds3@home.com). Please email me with correct address. Thanks. Mike
HookedOnHer posted 05-30-2002 01:27 PM ET (US)
RMBW,Busted...just moved and had not changed e-mail yet. Try it now...Thanks
kenconoly posted 05-01-2003 04:57 PM ET (US)
Temptation 2200 (1988) yes, I have owned one for going on five years. It's powered by a 454-magnum with an alpha-1 outdrive.
Great,fast,dry boat for Chesapeake bay. Sleeps two, but not real comfortably. More of a cruising boat, than fishing, although I fish off of her. She does love the fuel w/454 engine. ???'s feel free.KJC
peetmin posted 05-01-2003 06:13 PM ET (US)
Took a spin in a 20' Temptation w/ twin 175s this morning. Smokin fast and very smooth...pb
Barry posted 05-01-2003 09:54 PM ET (US)
peteinsf, my 1988 22-Outrage with WD is rigged with twin 150's but is rated for 400. members.aol.com/bburtensha/outrage/capacity_plate.jpg
doobee posted 05-02-2003 12:32 AM ET (US)
Don't know where you're from but there's a 25 Temptation going to the auction block on cape cod this weekend. It will probably fetch @ $12,000. See marketplace posting.

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Author	Topic: info on TEMPTATION 2200
HookedOnHer	posted 05-28-2002 02:14 PM ET (US) I am considering buying this boat on e-bay. Is there any thing good or bad about this model. It was not around long, four or five years?
peteinsf	posted 05-28-2002 04:11 PM ET (US) There cool boats, I think a very few were willing to pay the price for an offshore quality boat to putt around in so they didn't sell well... That 2200 on ebay had the first interior shots I have ever seen, small but plush. I would guess the 25' 2500 would be big enough to sleep in comfortably. I also talked to a guy who had a Temptation 2000 for sale for around $9K in FL. Never did get a good photo of that boat, it would have made a good "spring break at the lake" boat... If it were me the 2200 (or a 2000) would be good for towing around and a 2500 would be a cool coastal cruiser... (my .02)
HookedOnHer	posted 05-28-2002 09:21 PM ET (US) I would also like to add another question, you mention price, how much were they going for new compared to same size hull of a OUTRAGE.The seller also mentioned his boat was rated for 400hp,but on this site it is described with max of 300hp. Whats correct.
Tom W Clark	posted 05-28-2002 09:41 PM ET (US) HookedOnHer, The Temptation 2200 with Whaler Drive had either a maximum hp rating of 300 or 400 hp. It seems rather bizarre but apparently they first gave this boat a 400 hp rating and thought better of it. In the case of this boat, it's maximum hp is whatever it says on its ratings placard. It may well be 400 hp. In August of 1987 the Temptation 2200 with Whaler drive had a list price of $26,950 ($41,775 in year 2001 dollars). As a comparison, the Outrage 22' had a list price of $21,630 ($33,525 in year 2001 dollars)
Tom W Clark	posted 05-28-2002 09:43 PM ET (US) The Outrage 22 price above is the price of the Whaler Drive equipped model. Of course these are list prices and not inclusive of power or options.
HookedOnHer	posted 05-28-2002 11:38 PM ET (US) Tom thanks for the info. When you say boat equipped does that include motor. the original price the seller is quoted $72,000 with tax and dealer prep. Some kind of prep or a mis print? The motors he has on the boat are twin Johnson 150hp VRO's. Do you by chance have prices on these new in 87.
mbking1	posted 05-28-2002 11:47 PM ET (US) Thanks to Tom for stating the values in both present value and past value. This info is very handy in making accurate comparisons. Mark
peteinsf	posted 05-29-2002 12:03 AM ET (US) Tom are you sure about that, 400HP on the 2200? Sounds like an aircraft. Did any 22' whaler drive Outrages or Revenges get the 400 rating? Where did you find that?
peteinsf	posted 05-29-2002 12:04 AM ET (US) Tom are you sure about that, 400HP on the 2200? Sounds like an aircraft. Did any 22' whaler drive Outrages or Revenges get the 400 rating? Where did you find that?
Tom W Clark	posted 05-29-2002 03:04 AM ET (US) Pete, Yes I am sure of that. I have seen the placard on a Whaler Drive equipped 2200 and it said 400 hp. There was also a thread not too long ago where we discussed (argued about) this and it was confirmed from some other source as well. HookedOnHer, $72,000 seems a bit high but a pair of 150's back then probably cost about $14,000 and options like hydraulic steering ($1463) were not cheap either. I really don't know how one would get to $72,000 though.
Tin Man	posted 05-29-2002 08:29 AM ET (US) I also looked at this boat on ebay seriously. Here is the answer I got back from him regarding speeds and range: "The Coast Guard Plaque reads: 11 Persons or 1515 Lbs. Or 2655 Lbs. Persons motor and gear. 400 HP. motor. The fuel tank is new it is over 85 gallons. the 3/4 throttle or cruise consumption of these motors is approximately 18 to 22 gallons an hour at a speed of 30 knots. so reasonably you are looking at 80-90 nautical miles safely with 1/4 to 1/5 of a tank left. The prudent mariner always wants 1/3 going out one 1/3 coming back and one third to account for currents, wind and other" Not really enough range for me unless I repower with Opti's or 4 Strokes. Neat looking boat though. I considered it just to have next to the Harpoon and tender to round out my collection of "I didn't know Bostom Whaler made" boats.
Ready2Rip	posted 05-29-2002 11:41 AM ET (US) I looked at a Temptation 2500 before purchasing my Revenge. The Temptation is based on the Outrage hull, so it should be as seaworthy as any of the Whalers. The cabin space has a very low ceiling, so that's something you'll want to consider. You really have to get down on your hands & knees to get down below, and since I'm 6'4" that pretty much broke the deal for me. If there's any way you can check one out locally, you should. That way you'll know if it's a good fit for you. Good luck! Mike
HookedOnHer	posted 05-29-2002 03:54 PM ET (US) All great feedback. Still looking for someone that has personal experience with the Temptation 2200. Good and bad...performance,economy,trailering ect.
lhg	posted 05-29-2002 06:15 PM ET (US) Regarding engine pricing "back then". In 1989 I paid $12,600 for a PAIR of brand new Merc Counter rotating 200Hp engines, carb induction, from Sundance Marine in Ft Lauderdale. I remember pricing a pair of the 150's at the same time, and they were about $10,000. I was also quoted $9000 for a pair of 115's. SS Laser II props were $600 additional. So I would think that a pair of OMC 150's in 1987 would have been about $8500-9,000., depending an how much the guy bargained the Dealer. No way in hell's creation that 22 Temptation cost $72000 in 1987. More like $38,000 would be correct. In those days you could get 15% off list real easily on the boat. In 1985, I paid $3600 for a new Merc 115.
David Ratusnik	posted 05-30-2002 08:17 AM ET (US) The price is nuts. These boats languish by comparison to the hot market for Montauks, Outrages and to a degree Revenges. The reason the Temptation was in production for so short a period was that Whaler tried to compete with Donzi etc in making a babe appealing boat. Whaler historically was/is at its best making open fishing type boats. Other manufacturers do a much better job than Whaler in the sex appeal category. Stay away from the Temptation and find yourself a nice clean Revenge. Better looks, better resale and better overall design. My .03 The Temptation was/is a dog. David
Tin Man	posted 05-30-2002 09:32 AM ET (US) Here's what appealed to me about this boat aside from being a whaler. The boat was original and offered for sale by the original owner. Still had the engines it came with and as far as I could tell was properly maintained with low hours. The boat was/is owned by a doctor who obviously took a lot of pride in it and has kept it in excellent condition. If you are looking for that style boat, then this would be a good one to consider, even to the extent on paying some sort of premium. I liked it and still do. The problem with it is in the market segment, It is in a segment where it is more about style and speed than quality and ability. The one I have seen was solid and appealing. More so to my mid-forties eyes than to my teenagers. I think I woud have made a run for this one had the deal closed on my Edgewater.
RMBW	posted 05-30-2002 11:47 AM ET (US) HookedOnHer, have tried to email you several times at you listed address and have not been able to do so (sdeeds3@home.com). Please email me with correct address. Thanks. Mike
HookedOnHer	posted 05-30-2002 01:27 PM ET (US) RMBW,Busted...just moved and had not changed e-mail yet. Try it now...Thanks
kenconoly	posted 05-01-2003 04:57 PM ET (US) Temptation 2200 (1988) yes, I have owned one for going on five years. It's powered by a 454-magnum with an alpha-1 outdrive. Great,fast,dry boat for Chesapeake bay. Sleeps two, but not real comfortably. More of a cruising boat, than fishing, although I fish off of her. She does love the fuel w/454 engine. ???'s feel free.KJC
peetmin	posted 05-01-2003 06:13 PM ET (US) Took a spin in a 20' Temptation w/ twin 175s this morning. Smokin fast and very smooth...pb
Barry	posted 05-01-2003 09:54 PM ET (US) peteinsf, my 1988 22-Outrage with WD is rigged with twin 150's but is rated for 400. members.aol.com/bburtensha/outrage/capacity_plate.jpg
doobee	posted 05-02-2003 12:32 AM ET (US) Don't know where you're from but there's a 25 Temptation going to the auction block on cape cod this weekend. It will probably fetch @ $12,000. See marketplace posting.