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graphicservice posted 06-03-2002 09:01 PM ET (US)   Profile for graphicservice   Send Email to graphicservice  
Has or does anyone trailer older loaded (normal gear and fuel) Montauk with Jeep Wrangler? 6-cylinder, 5-speed manual, 2000lbs max towing. I have a better tow vehicle but family enjoys the Jeep on weekends. May purchase older B/W and would add new trailer Any thoughts on trailer brakes for 17' B/W?
andygere posted 06-03-2002 11:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
I tow my '79 Montuak with a Wrangler, no problem. Mine's a '93 4.0L six cyl. 5 speed, with the factory draw bar hitch. Plenty of power and the suspension easily handles the tounge weight. You need to be careful braking, but otherwise it works out pretty well. Ordinarily I'd say trailer brakes for a 17 would be overkill, but if you are getting a new trailer anyway, they would be a help for towing with the Wrangler. My boat is probably on the heavy side with an 85 hp main, 15 hp kicker, dual batteries and teak casting decks bow and stern.
Don Fisher posted 06-04-2002 08:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for Don Fisher  Send Email to Don Fisher     
Remember that "towing" doesn't necessarily mean horsepower to tow the darn thing. Equally important (and probably more so) is being able to stop. As the prior post suggests, braking needs to be considered. If I recall correctly, the Wrangle has a front disc/rear drum set-up...not ideal for towing. You should also consider the length (mileage) you will be towing. The Wrangler has a short wheelbase and is therefore more prone to sway. On a shorter trip, this shouldn't be a problem. However, if you are towing through a known wind area or where you will be encountering a lot of semi's on the highway, I'd go with your other tow vehicle.
JBCornwell posted 06-04-2002 09:51 AM ET (US)     Profile for JBCornwell  Send Email to JBCornwell     
If you even approach tow capacity (and I'd bet you are over your Wrangler capacity) you GOTTA have brakes on the trailer!

Double check with your insurance agent. I would expect them to refuse to pay a claim for an accident while towing even an ouncce over the rating.

Please, use a bigger vehicle, especially if you put your children in it.

andygere posted 06-04-2002 01:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
While the Wrangler is not the ideal tow rig for this boat, it is not in my opinion unsafe. Since I have a lot of experience with this exact set-up, I stand by my advice. There is no problem with sway at all, and stopping power is decent. By adding the tounge weight to the rear of the vehicle, some braking characteristics are improved. I do drive at a safe speed (never over 55), and always keep a reasonable cushion (space) between me and the car in front of me. I also downshift when coming to a stop to avoid heating the brakes excessively. I have made hard stops with this rig and it behaved predictably. If trailer brakes are an option, go for them. If not, you'll still be ok. The boat/trailer is not overweight for this tow vehicle, so I wouldn't be paranoid about your insurance.
TightPenny posted 06-04-2002 02:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for TightPenny  Send Email to TightPenny     
First of all, the towing capacity of the vehicle is not just the owners manual listed trailer capacity or the capacity of the towbar. You need to know the GVW rating of the vehicle, which included the trailer load and the load within the vehicle. That number should not be exceeded.

As to trailer brakes, if I recall my USCG boating course, the requirement for trailer brakes is dependent on the weight of the loaded trailer, as well as the ratio of the weight of the trailer to the weight of the towing vehicle. My recollection is that the factor is 40%

My towing vehicle weighs in at 6000 pounds empty, so the weight of my Montauk and trailer is less than the limiting ratio, hence I do not use brakes on mine.

I at one time towed my sport 15 behind my 1974 CJ-5. Stopping was always a problem, especially in the old drum drum braking system that the jeep had, so I always left plenty of room.

My suggestion is to use a trailer with brakes.

crashq posted 06-04-2002 04:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for crashq  Send Email to crashq     
I am curious as to why the disc/drum front/rear brake setup is not ideal for towing. That setup describes 99% of towing vehicles on the road.

At any rate, for the jeep, because of its high stance, shorter wheelbase, and relatively light weight in comparison to the boat I would recommend at least surge brakes to ease the load (and probably a full brake setup). Brakes make things much easier and safer. Don't skimp on safety, esecially with the family in the vehicle.

graphicservice posted 06-06-2002 12:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for graphicservice  Send Email to graphicservice     
Thanks for all the info. I've enjoyed reading and learning from the Whaler forum. My family and myself enjoy many water activities on a number of differnt vessels.(Power and sail) I'm "wanting" a smaller boat to garage and tag-along. Ex. Trip to Perdido Bay Fl. on the 4th.(I read the other fishing thread) or fishing on the Tenn-Tom in North AL. I believe a 13" or 15" B/W will be perfect. Thanks every one including Jeep forums and USPS members.

Jeff

Bigshot posted 06-06-2002 02:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
No problem.....but you might want to keep it under 55mph due to short wheelbase. Use caution on Highways until you see how she handles. I towed my 21' Scarab with a Scrambler.
PMUCCIOLO posted 06-07-2002 04:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for PMUCCIOLO    
BIGSHOT:

Is the "Scrambler" to which you refer process eggs or radio transmissions?

Paul

PMUCCIOLO posted 06-07-2002 04:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for PMUCCIOLO    
The above should read "Does" instead of "Is."

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