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jbtaz posted 06-10-2002 10:10 AM ET (US)   Profile for jbtaz   Send Email to jbtaz  
FYI, I just saw a drawing of a brand new 24 Outrage for 2003 in a BW news release to it's dealers. It looks like a smaller version of the new 27..(Same style)..In addition to that news and news of the new 15 Classic, they will be definalty offering 200 HP Mercury 4-strokes on their larger packages..(must be the repainted Yamaha's)
PMUCCIOLO posted 06-10-2002 11:04 AM ET (US)     Profile for PMUCCIOLO    

Jbtaz's observations provide cause for concern for the viability of Boston Whaler's Recreational Division. The design elements and construction techniques for which they are famous have been abandoned. I've never seen a boat manufacturer so radically depart from its heritage as Boston Whaler has over the past several years without losing a large portion of its market share.

If I cannot arrive at a decision regarding the CPD order I am considering (waiting until July 10th will get me a 2003) I'll take the disposable income in my boat fund elsewhere. An observation of the alternative brands now used by commercial and law enforcement agencies speaks volumes.

If I were to purchase one of these new designs, I fear that my income will have been disposed of permanently. A review of the models, years, and power packages listed for sale substantiates my statements.

Quite frankly, this disgusts me.


tully_mars posted 06-10-2002 04:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for tully_mars  Send Email to tully_mars     

Being the owner of a couple of classics and nowing being the in my 2nd post classic whaler, I don't know that I see Boston Whaler going down hill. I much prefer the new boats to the older ones. They ride better and the layouts are done with great though and consideration for the fishing etc... The fish boxes, the plates molded into the decks for T-tops/Hard tops. All of these didn't exist in the classics, and the support I have had from the factory has been outstanding. They have faxed me drawings and given me test information whenever requested when I have thought about modifying my boat.

One thing many people don't know about the new Whalers are the aluminum/phenolic plates molded into the decks and gunnels. These are put there for mounting T-tops etc too so they stay put. I can't tell you how many Pursuits etc.. I have personally seen where they can't get the T-top to stay bolted to the deck. Not on my 21' Outrage 1996. I have 3 screws 4" deep into 4 6"x6" aluminum plates underneath the deck.

Tully Mars

jbtaz posted 06-10-2002 04:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for jbtaz  Send Email to jbtaz     
I happen to like the new ones for their cockpit designs and deeper V's all the while keeping the Whaler tradition of a foamed hull.
homey posted 06-10-2002 06:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for homey  Send Email to homey     
I like the look of the new 27' and if the 240 is looking similiar then Boston Whaler is finally getting it right! They build a solid boat, but their design department is lacking...
A Montauk with no stern cleats? The 18 Outrage with stern seat that incorporates a vinyl strap to secure it?(Can you believe the dealer wanted $30,000 for it?)
Contender, Regulater, and Seacraft all have deep vee's, great lines, and smooth rides. Boston Whaler can't ignore these offshore designs any longer and if they want to stay competitive in the market, they must have better hull designs...I've heard Pursuit boats will be changing some of their designs as well...My 2 cents...
whalernut posted 06-10-2002 08:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalernut  Send Email to whalernut     
I am with you Paul, the New Whalers disgust me too!!! They just aren`t Boston Whalers to me, but to others they are just as good or better than the Classics, for me I can`t say structurally the New ones are inferior, but I just don`t like the designs or options. To each their own I guess. Jack.
Wild Turkey posted 06-10-2002 11:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for Wild Turkey  Send Email to Wild Turkey     
Well said, Paul.


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