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Ed Stone posted 06-25-2002 09:26 PM ET (US)   Profile for Ed Stone   Send Email to Ed Stone  
Went out fishing this past sunday in
some rough wet weather.Had to change
directions due to bad weather offshore.
Ended up fishing in 40 foot of water
Soutwest of Egmont key.
I was dragging some jigs trying to pick
up a few grouper.There was only a few boats
out that day where I was fishing.
I noticed a boat sitting near one of my spots.They had out a diving flag.I wanted
to make sure I gave them plenty of room.
It looked to be a small walkaround cuddy.
There was one other boat east of them so
I decided to troll east around both of them
and circle across my spot.
The next time I looked in there direction
the boat looked smaller!I then realized It
was sinking.I quickly pulled in my lines
and headed in there direction.The only other
boat out there also pulled anchor and headed
over towards them.
The only thing above water was the bow pulpit!Four people were in the water,two
looked to have on dive gear.The other two
were floating on a igloo water cooler.
The boat had went under in less than
ten minutes.They were starting to board
the other boat as I approached.
I asked them If there was somthing I
could do to help.They contacted the coast
gaurd then seatow.
The last I heard Seatow was dragging the
submerged boat towards coquina boat ramp.
They said it was a 26 foot Wellcraft
with twin Yamahas.
I've looked at the new Wellcraft at the
boat shows.They do appear to be fine boats.
How can someone compare boats with foam
injected into the stringers and partail subfloors to Whalers with the entire hulls
filled with foam.
I know whalers aren't as fast and pretty
with all the options as some of the other
boats on the water,but they do put in print
a stated swamped capacity.
When everthing goes wrong and water comes
in my boat I plan on being in a Whaler and
not hanging onto a foam filled igloo cooler!
Whaler Proud posted 06-25-2002 09:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whaler Proud  Send Email to Whaler Proud     
Amen!
Wreckdiver posted 06-25-2002 09:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for Wreckdiver  Send Email to Wreckdiver     
That kind of stuff is not funny when you are ten miles out in Lake Superior and the water is 40 degrees. I once took a 6-foot breaker over the bow of my 13 foot Dauntless. The Whaler didnít care. It just all ran out the back.
A lot of people have critisised the company for cost cutting, but they seem to do what counts on even the smallest models
Bob
reelescape1 posted 06-25-2002 09:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for reelescape1  Send Email to reelescape1     
I know you'll get lots of responses on this one........Last fall while fishing a King tourney out of Chas. SC, I was driving my buds 21' OR, slow trolling...there was a 20' Sea Craft anchored..balloon fishing...a father/daughter team. While trolling we began to notice the Dad frantically trying to bail water from the boat, the girl sitting in the bow, holding a water hose overboard. The Dad dove in a couple of times (no life jacket), trying to put the plug in. He eneded up lifting the bait well over the gunwale, (30-40 gallons @ 8lbs./gal) throwing it in. He cut the anchor line, tried motoring foward several times, the engine would just cut off (older OMC, almost totally under water),at this point we had pulled lines in, I radioed the CG, we "saved" them by getting them and a few items aboard. Had we not been there...who knows. I can't tell you how much of an eye opener this was for me....this was a survival story! I have made 2 major improvements in my boating life since this.....I went through the Sea School Captains course...and I wasted $1000 on an
epirb. One I use every day, one I hope I never need. I'm on my 3rd Whaler, a 22' with new 225 Yam EFI and love it!!
James posted 06-25-2002 10:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for James  Send Email to James     
I guess that if your boat is sinking little else matters. Whalers don't sink.

James.

DIVE 1 posted 06-25-2002 10:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for DIVE 1    
Rest assured, we own the finest unsinkable boats produced. In the last 10 years I have salvaged over 100 boats from the bottom of Lake Erie. Everything from a 12' aluminum rowboat to a 60' floating summer cottage. Not once have I seen a BW submerged in the lake. Even after violent collisions with major structural damage, the BW is always floating and the other vessel is sitting on the bottom. Thank you Boston Whaler.
ShrimpBurrito posted 06-26-2002 01:48 AM ET (US)     Profile for ShrimpBurrito  Send Email to ShrimpBurrito     
Maybe this could be a contest held by Whaler. Whoever is the first one who can sink a Whaler gets one free. Of course, there would have to be a few rules, like, you can't tie it to a train car and dump it in the ocean. At first thought, I was thinking M-80's and other explosives should be prohibited, but that would simply create a mess....with little pieces of foam everywhere, and thus, not sinking. Think of the publicity Whaler would get.
JFM posted 06-26-2002 10:10 AM ET (US)     Profile for JFM  Send Email to JFM     
Ed, how right you are.
Just last week I had the 13 out on the ocean with 6 people aboard for a ride. We went to see the old light house at Little St. George (now completely abandon). The sea was very calm and we were enjoying the sun. When we got closer to the light house we saw a capsized boat(about a 20'er) beating into the shore. There were 6 people standing there waving franticly at us. We pulled up as close as we could (I didn't want the same thing to happen to us). I held up my radio and they indicated they didn't have one. We came in closer and a guy walked out so we could hear each other. He asked me to save them. I told him we couldn't with out risk to us. He sceamed "your on a Whaler". We threw him some bottled water and called the coast gaurd. We stayed in the area for a while until the coast gaurd arrived.
I wonder if he took his insurance money and bought a Whaler yet. Regards, Jay
diveorfish posted 06-26-2002 06:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for diveorfish  Send Email to diveorfish     
I bought a Whaler for three reasons: 1. Unsinkable! 2.Unsinkable! 3.Unsinkable! When I was shopping for my boat, Whaler bashers and dealers (of other boats) told me repeatedly that boats nowadays all have flotation and the odds of a boat sinking are slim to none. After reading many recent posts on this forum and others, apparently thatís not the case. Some of these stories Iíve heard and read about are truly scary. Just makes me happier to have a whaler and I donít regret my decision the slightest bit.

Of course there are many other reasons as well. Not to disagree with Ed Stone, but I think our boats (the post-classic 23 OR) are quite beautiful and reek of quality, fit and finish. My wife and I always liked Whalers best (aesthetically) when seeing them at boat shows.

We also liked the features as well. If you are going to take a female off shore for hours at a time, you got to have an enclosed head. They wonít go in a bucket! Hence, I like the large console. If you swim or dive off the boat, you have to have an easy way to get back on board. The infamous euro transom makes that job easy so I like it. Ladders over the gunwales are a pain. If you are ever going to take more than two people on a 20í+ center console boat, they are going to need a place to sit while under way. My Whaler foldup transom seat seats 2 or 3 and we use it all the time. Anyway, Thatís just some of the features.

The only thing you can really knock a Whaler for is that, for their size, the 20í+ models donít have as quite as much interior room as other comparably sized boats. There are two reasons for this: one is the euro transom, which I already mentioned can be good thing if you dive, and the other is that Whaler hulls are just really thick. That hull thickness on the bottom and sides really cuts into the interior space but it is that thickness that makes them unsinkable. It seems like a small price to pay to stay afloat.

mbking1 posted 06-26-2002 08:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for mbking1  Send Email to mbking1     
JFM....

6 people on a 13? Come on now. Mark

mbking1 posted 06-26-2002 08:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for mbking1  Send Email to mbking1     
Ed Stone...

Awesome story big guy.

I sometimes wonder why Whaler does not use some of these stories in their promotional material. I can't imagine a better sales tool. Mark

Rodger posted 06-26-2002 08:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for Rodger  Send Email to Rodger     
mbking1,
A classic 13' is rated for 6 people. With 6 people aboard there is not much feeboard, but who cares, it's a Whaler. Just for fun I used to get 6 people in my sport 13, pull the plug, let it fill up with water, and motor around. There is a huge entertainment value in watching people stare at you thinking you are going to sink in a few seconds. It was pretty funny!
SSCH posted 06-26-2002 09:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for SSCH  Send Email to SSCH     
Hey guys,

I love my Whaler as much as anyone loves his boat. Yes, it won't sink and is well made. That's the reason I've bought 5 of them over the years.

This current one does have 173 gallons of fuel on board and will burn just like any other boat. Everyone should consider a small rescue platform or coastal raft if he or she is going offshore, Whaler or not. And Reelescape, that EPIRB is a great safety tool, as you obviously know, to have in that raft. (I loved my 22 OR, too. Wait till you try the CPD 25 Guardian.)

Taylor posted 06-26-2002 09:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for Taylor  Send Email to Taylor     
I got a 17' whaler because its the biggest 17 foot boat out there. By this I mean that it can handle conditions as if it were a much larger boat.
Dick posted 06-26-2002 09:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
SSCH

That was a very good comment about burning. I don't remember it being brought up on the forum since I have been here.

Fiberglass burns regardless of the boat brand and if it happens on a Whaler, there goes your swamped capacity.

A good reminder to keep your fuel system in A-1 condition.

Rodger posted 06-26-2002 10:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for Rodger  Send Email to Rodger     
Good points SSCH and Dick,
I think I will go check to make sure my fire extinguisher is fully charged and ready to go.
DrZ posted 06-27-2002 12:21 AM ET (US)     Profile for DrZ  Send Email to DrZ     
The reason I own a Whaler--I had a Mako before and almost sunk (thank God for the USCG) while night fishing for sharks at Pori Everglades. Nuff said.
Dr T posted 06-27-2002 01:19 AM ET (US)     Profile for Dr T  Send Email to Dr T     
The Mako wasn't gonna sink; it was just gonna visit its cousins.

I got my 13 after looking long and hard for a boat that could:

Handle big, windy impoundments,
Have enough deck room and stability to fish in a wide variety of conditions,
Have enough excess floatation to handle heavy loads,
Be small enough to get back into the swamps at the inlets to big reservoirs,
Be easy to launch and retrieve single handed.

The 13 whaler was the only thing that I could come up with that could do everything.

JFM posted 06-27-2002 09:13 AM ET (US)     Profile for JFM  Send Email to JFM     
mbking1, YES 6 PEOPLE IN A 13. Read the capacity plate it says 6. My wife #120, her friend #105, 3 kids about #100 ea. and me at #210(yes I lost 15lbs). It's tight be we do it easly. Regards, Jay
P.S. We even had a small cooler and 12 gallons of fuel.
mudpuppy posted 06-27-2002 09:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for mudpuppy  Send Email to mudpuppy     
I bought a Whaler because we go out in the cold, dark, foggy predawn hours on windy winter mornings with a boat full of decoys, dogs, and shotguns, and the last thing I want to worry or even think about is an unseaworthy boat. Too much other stuff happening, and it happens fast. Everybody at the ramp covets my 15.
jimb342 posted 06-30-2002 09:09 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimb342  Send Email to jimb342     
Gotta chime in on this one.1995 24' Outrage- storage, handling, dry ride, light dry weight (towing), fuel capacity, fresh water shower, fuel management system (I guess yamaha should get credit),fish hold capacity, rod storage, and it won't sink.

Jim

Whaler Proud posted 06-30-2002 09:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whaler Proud  Send Email to Whaler Proud     
I realized a facet of Whaler ownership yesterday.

I took my son and a friend and his son out on Grapevine Lake, Grapevine, Texas. We powered out and fished a while until the boys got restless. We then shot over to a cove and let them swim for awhile before we started fishing.

After fishing for another hour or so, we noticed rain heading our way. The sky was getting dark and here in Texas, the weather can turn real nasty almost instantly. In the cove it was still calm, so we decided to pick up and head in befor eit got rough.

When we pulled out of the cove, the wind was blowing straight at us. The swells were pretty big (incredibly small by ocean and Great Lakes standards, but rough anyway) so I got up on plane and started going back to the ramp. We were able to do 30 all the way back in (could have gone faster but the boys were with us and I would have taken way too much air)and docked the boat.

My buddy had never ridden in a Whaler. He had experienced open bow boats on Superior and the bass boats so common down here. He was impressed that he did not hurt from the pounding, that all of our gear stayed stowed and we did not gewt wet except for the rain.

I was proud to reply "that's why I own a Whaler".

TightPenny posted 07-01-2002 06:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for TightPenny  Send Email to TightPenny     
As to what Taylor said - Amen

The biggest 17' boat on the ocean

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