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kysard posted 07-02-2002 07:47 PM ET (US)   Profile for kysard   Send Email to kysard  
What's a good 80's early 90's whaler for fishing 25-30 miles offshore mid atlantic. Reading the article on the 18-OR that looks like the one but wanted here some opinions.
vdbgroup posted 07-02-2002 10:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for vdbgroup  Send Email to vdbgroup     
It depends on your willingness to tolerate rough seas.

You can go offshore in virtually any Whaler, but you have to establish a threshold for what is comfortable both ride and time wise.

The Montauk through 18 will handle that distance with some ease although you will need to have ample fuel and cruise intelligently on a Montauk to maximize range.

I would say these two will handle condition from with some degree of comfort from 2-3 ft seas. The 18 Outrage will handle a lot more, but 25 miles of pounding will wear you out. Range on any of the Outrages is not a problem with this distance.

(The 20' Outrage is somewhat in the middle here)

Running that distance in 3+ foot seas will necessitate a 22' Outrage or above for comfort.

KeysNole posted 07-03-2002 12:40 AM ET (US)     Profile for KeysNole  Send Email to KeysNole     
Like vdbgroup said, it's up to you first, and the boat second (although a very important second).

I have a friend who had an 11' tender with a 35hp Johnson. Him and his father took off out of Port Everglades one calm day. The boat was loaded with ice and extra gas (dolphin fishing).

They hit a few huge schools of dolphin and kept drifting offshore. Eventually they found themselves in the middle of a bad lightning storm. My friend, who is hard core to say the least, really thought it was over. He and his father were lying down in the Whaler. They peeked over the edge and saw lightning strike the water.

After it had passed, my friend noticed land in the distance, but the compass reading wasn't agreeing. Turns out he saw BIMINI. Crazy to say the least.

My point is, he took the punishment, and the Whaler took the punishment. Not too smart, but everyone made it home.

kysard posted 07-03-2002 06:57 AM ET (US)     Profile for kysard  Send Email to kysard     
There isn't much info on the 20 or 22 whaler in the reference section, I was thinking these weren't made until '90? The 70's style outrage don't appeal to me.
RMBW posted 07-03-2002 11:18 AM ET (US)     Profile for RMBW  Send Email to RMBW     
We have fished offshore many times with the 17' Whaler. Learn to watch the weather, take good safety equ. and use your head! The Whaler will take more than you can.
I was hunting moose in northern Manatoba, when a large storm moved in. A friend was picking me up on a point with 4' rollers breaking. I tried to tell him to drop anchor, lift the motor and feed out the ancor line to pick me up. He could't hear me over the sound of the wind and waves. Backing the boat up while holding into the wind worked untill he hit bottom with the motor and then she turned broad side and filled with the first wave. We held the boat into the seas while unloading 3 hunter and gear, then I took the ancor and proceeded to throw it offshore to walk the boat into deeper water. I had the plug pulled and started the motor. After running the water out of the boat, I dropped the ancor and drifted back to pick up the other 3 hunters. We were glade we had a Whaler and we did end up with 3 moose and 1 black bear. This was in the 1970s. Mike

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