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Jimm posted 07-02-2002 08:00 PM ET (US)   Profile for Jimm  
A used Montauk I'm going to look at has bottom paint. I'll be trailering it; can I just leave it or does it begin to look crappy and have to come off? Opinions please??
whalersman posted 07-02-2002 10:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalersman  Send Email to whalersman     
Jimm,
I think it would be better to get it off. If you are trailering it, you don't need it, and it would look much better without it.
I don't know the best way to get it off. Maybe someone here can enlighten us. I purchased my fist Whaler 13 back in 1975 that had bottom paint on it. The first thing I did was remove it. I used a scaper that looked like a gasket remover. It didn't hurt the gel coat but it took me forever. Fortunately, I was a young buck then with lots of energy. I wouldn't want to do that ever again the way I did it.
I am looking at buying another Whaler at the moment and it too has bottom paint. We could do what JimH has done to his Revenge in the photos.... Use his Computer and Photoshop to remove it from the pictures. Of course that is only temporary.
Good Luck,
Joe
OutrageMan posted 07-02-2002 11:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for OutrageMan  Send Email to OutrageMan     
Peel Away is the best chemical remover. Otherwise a 6" random orbital sander, but you had better have plenty of respirator cartridges, a Tyvek suit and gloves.

Brian

JFM posted 07-03-2002 08:43 AM ET (US)     Profile for JFM  Send Email to JFM     
Jim, you may be interested in the following: http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001018.html
Regards, Jay
whalerron posted 07-03-2002 09:09 AM ET (US)     Profile for whalerron  Send Email to whalerron     
When we bought our whaler, its bottom was painted. Rather than risk messing up the gelcoat, I just repaint it every couple of years. It has been fine. Although it doesn't look as good as an unpainted boat, it doesn't look bad either.
jimithing posted 07-03-2002 11:07 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimithing  Send Email to jimithing     
it is stupid to spend all that time removing the bottom paint off that boat...the fiberglass underneath has been scored already for better adhesion of the paint so you wont like what you find underneath anyway. Just use and enjoy the boat and if the paint flakes off and it looks bad to you repaint it. plain and simple.
SeaHag posted 07-03-2002 11:13 AM ET (US)     Profile for SeaHag  Send Email to SeaHag     
okay for some reason I have this glaring picture of Dana Carvey's Church Lady@%@$#

Jimithing and Whalerron your responses begg the question "What bottom paint is suggested, considering the use is purely cometic. In all seriousness that stuff can get expensive.

Thanks

Bigshot posted 07-03-2002 11:21 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
If it is flaking then the dealer o whoever applied it idid not etch or etch it well. try removing the paint(anyway you like) from the transom only. If you like the look and it was not an utter nightmare, start doing the rest. You may want to wai until fall and enjoy the summer. If it has black paint, it will stay black. The reds, blues and greens get funky.
jimithing posted 07-03-2002 11:31 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimithing  Send Email to jimithing     
agree with bigshot on the color...if not black you may want to strip it....otherwise leave it alone.and touchups are alot cheaper than painting the whole thing
Kelly posted 07-03-2002 11:38 AM ET (US)     Profile for Kelly  Send Email to Kelly     
Jimm,
My used Whaler came with bottom paint, many coats. In places where the paint is starting to flake off, it appears that the gel coat is in good condition. I am taking a wait and see approach. I can't see making that a priotiry with all the other things that need to be done. I also want to see what the surface looks like under the paint. Personally, I don't think bottom paint looks that bad. It gives it that "old salt" look. Kelly
NoviceWhaler posted 07-03-2002 12:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for NoviceWhaler  Send Email to NoviceWhaler     
My 17' Montauk came with Black bottom paint that was fading to a dusky grey. I had to repaint and got it done in red. I didn't know any better at the time. Now I've got a Montauk with a pink bottom.

I know better now.

whalerron posted 07-03-2002 12:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalerron  Send Email to whalerron     
Mine is done with blue anti-fouling paint. (see the Minot on Cetacea page 33). I haven't painted it for about 5 years now and the blue still looks good. Two or three times a year, I leave the boat in the water for 2 or 3 days and put that anti-fouling paint to work.

Anti-fouling is expensive stuff but it holds up well too while being used in "trailer duty"

acseatsri posted 07-03-2002 02:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for acseatsri  Send Email to acseatsri     
Mine had about 15 coats built up, including some spots that had flaked off. Removed it with Interlux stripper (green can, worked well for me) with a razor blade window scraper. Took a long time, but it all came off. Did a light sanding job and applied Micron CSC. Mine is kept in the water- Love driving down, taking off canvas, and turning the key.

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