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fair price for a 18' outrage?
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posted 07-03-2002 11:51 PM ET (US)
Hey guys, i need a little advice.Ive been searching for a 18' outrage with twins,and a member of this board was kind enough to link me up with one of his buddys whos got one for sale.The only problem is...im in California, and the boats in Texas.So heres my questiouns, What do you think a fair price for a 1982 18' or with twin 1982 70's is?
Anybody have a ballpark guess on having it shipped 1700 miles? And finally, any advice on buying a boat ive only seen in emailed pics?....thanks for your time,Don
....the hours on the engines are unknown, and the boats only electronics is a vhf radio
posted 07-04-2002 12:02 AM ET (US)
20 year old engines? Radio is worth MAYBE 50 bucks. Gotta be REALLY cheap or REALLY fantastic to ship that far. I know there are other members here with twins, but keep in mind you also have twice the maintenance costs as well. It's a lot cheaper to maintain a single 150 than 2 70's, probably more economical to run also. Why not a single plus a kicker?
posted 07-04-2002 11:31 AM ET (US)
Goose, why not travel and pick up that Whaler?? Seventeen hundred miles are only miles, put them behind you and make a vacation out of it. You could possibly fly down also for a ride and look at her first. Could you possibly pick the boat up halfway, most sellers will work with you. I my self feel that, twin motors are twin problems. I vote with acseatsri on the single larger motor with a good kicker. Been their. Mike
posted 07-04-2002 12:56 PM ET (US)
Pictures can give you a general idea of the conditions of a boat. However, there are many little things that will not show up in most pictures. My brother drove from Dallas, Texas to San Jose, California (4 days roundtrip) to look at a boat that looked pretty good in the pictures. I wondered why anyone would paint the bottom of a hull black. My brother got out there and found that the owner had painted the bottom with roofing cement, trying to keep it from leaking (aluminum boat.) Personally I would not buy a boat that I had not looked at closely and taken for a demonstration ride. Just my 2 cents worth.
|Tom W Clark||
posted 07-04-2002 10:11 PM ET (US)
You can expect shipping to run $1.50 to $2.00 per mile depending on fuel prices. It will be very dificult to find anybody to haul a boat for a buck a mile, but you never know. Shop around.
An 18' Whaler is a great boat. The choice of a single or twin is yours so I'll disregard that question.
The fact that this boat has 1982 motors means the value of the whole rig will be low. If you are obliged to repower then you are free to shop for any 18' Whaler out there be it single or twin.
You didn't say what kind of 70 hp motors are on this boat. If they are Johnsons or Evunrudes then they may well still be running strong, but none the less their market value is very low so factor that into you calculation of this boat's worth.
I would say a rig like this is worth less than $10k. Accessories on a boat like this are almost irrelevent. Ascribe a value of zero to them.
As a boat's value lowers, the transportation cost of delivering it escalates as a percetage. A really expensive boat from Texas may be justified but a relativey inexpensive one like this is less so. Think about it.
Regarding emailed photos, boats (or anything else for that matter) always look better in the photos than in person. Take that into account before making a decision.
posted 07-04-2002 11:06 PM ET (US)
thanks for the advice...Don
posted 07-05-2002 08:19 AM ET (US)
Goose - Mav here.
I owned a 1985 18.6 for about 4 years. Great boat. Had orig Yammy 150, ran great but salty , and was local (Charleston, SC). Paid about $10k as I recall, with decent trailer. Ran awhile, sold off old Yammy and controls (about $1500) and repowered with new Johnson 150, which cost ~$8400 with steering and extras. Had a tidy sum in this rig when the dust settled. Not complaining, but old engines are not as new, reliable power, period. If I really REALLY wanted the boat you mentioned, I'd pay for a good hull and trailer, and little for the motors, and little or nothing for the extras. Sight unseen, 1700 miles away? Hmm, would have to be a killer price, the hull bottom would have to be UNpainted with NO damage, ever. Too many others out there for sale to choose from that meet that (my personal) basic criteria. Florida is buyer's market, and that goes for outrages too. Where are you from and/or where is shipping coming from? Good luck, and drop me a line if you want more info - I've owned/bought and sold a "few" of these unsinkable legends. Staying with my wing man, but requesting flyby on the deck....Maverick out...
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