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ron3637 posted 07-05-2002 12:26 AM ET (US)   Profile for ron3637   Send Email to ron3637  
This is the third part of my question. Please give years, model names and size of whaler's worst
JFM posted 07-05-2002 10:55 AM ET (US)     Profile for JFM  Send Email to JFM     
Ron, my thoughts would be:
a) Any Whaler that is under powered.
b) Any Whaler that had a short run, other than the 15.
Regards, Jay
ron3637 posted 07-06-2002 06:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for ron3637  Send Email to ron3637     
I cant believe that their were no bad riding designs.
Jay A posted 07-06-2002 08:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jay A    
Tough question ! Any boat has it's good and bad points. It all depends on it's intended use,location,vessel set-up and the operators skill.
JBCornwell posted 07-06-2002 08:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for JBCornwell  Send Email to JBCornwell     
Hi Ron.

Any useful purpose of your survey escapes me.

What is the worst handling BMW? The worst riding Rolls?

There is another forum well known for nonsense surveys. Have you tried there?

Red sky at night. . .
JB :)

mbking1 posted 07-06-2002 10:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for mbking1  Send Email to mbking1     
Worst handling whaler? That's an easy one. Any of the rage jet drive models. Nothing comes close in my opinion. Mark
reelescape1 posted 07-06-2002 10:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for reelescape1  Send Email to reelescape1     
IMHO......'96 19 OR.
TunreLahw posted 07-06-2002 11:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for TunreLahw    
Ron,

The Whalers you want to avoid because of their terrible ride are, in order:

27-foot
25-foot
22-foot
20-foot
18-foot
17-foot
15-foot
13-foot

If you are looking for a good riding boat, get a Sea Ray Laguna 22. With a Force engine, too.

Clark Roberts posted 07-07-2002 07:32 AM ET (US)     Profile for Clark Roberts  Send Email to Clark Roberts     
This is a loaded question and shouldn't even be recognized! So subjective, pointless, contrived, etc,,,etc,,,etc,,,,I have better things to do refuse to respond... opppps shouldn't hit the "submit" key!!!!!! Clark... Spruce Creek Navy
PS> Who is the worst looking Dallas Cowboy cheerleader? Is she ugly?... well no, not at all, she's just the worst looking of the beautiful bunch... huh? Beam me up!
newportguy posted 07-07-2002 08:03 AM ET (US)     Profile for newportguy  Send Email to newportguy     
I do not remember the details, but I believe that the first 20 foot outrage hull that BW released was actually a bad hull....ie it handled very badly in comparison to the 18 foot outrage and the 22 outrage. Many people who had experience with the whaler line had commented on this locally. And I believe that the 20 footer was not in production long because of this.
Hendrickson posted 07-07-2002 08:17 AM ET (US)     Profile for Hendrickson  Send Email to Hendrickson     
The ones that I run wide open in four foot waves.
Bigshot posted 07-08-2002 09:50 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Worst riding.....i guess that would be every Whaler that was NOT listed in your last thread(Best riding Whalers).
jimithing posted 07-08-2002 12:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimithing  Send Email to jimithing     
you people will discuss whatever some dolt throws up here...stop it already
cjd posted 07-08-2002 04:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for cjd  Send Email to cjd     
while I agree that Ron has a fair amount of questions, I am actually interested in hearing about some less then perfect whaler rides. Call me crazy, but when the waiter says everythings good, i get suspicious.

BTW Ron, I feel like I have been living your boat search with you. Have you pulled the trigger yet? what's on the shorlist?

chris

jimithing posted 07-08-2002 04:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimithing  Send Email to jimithing     
cjd

Like I said.....stop it...move on....don't encourage this kind of mindless, thoughtless drivel....

cjd posted 07-08-2002 04:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for cjd  Send Email to cjd     
oh jimi........
jimithing posted 07-08-2002 04:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimithing  Send Email to jimithing     
its jimithing to you....jeeeeeeesssssss
newportguy posted 07-10-2002 05:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for newportguy  Send Email to newportguy     
Just to continue,

Quoting Tom Clark,

The original V-20 was the first of the new generation of Whalers with a deep V hull. Whaler was conservative with the dead rise of the hull. The deadrise on the V-20 was only 12 whereas the 17' Outrage and the 18' hull has a dead rise of 16. This greater deadrise angle makes for a smoother ride.

The other reported problem with the original V-20 is a reduced transom angle which could be a problem with certain OMC outboards which had less negative trim angle. Some members here have said that in this circumstance the motor could not be trimmed in enough to avoid porpoising under certain conditions. The remedy for this is to simply install some transom wedges.

Thanks Tom, I Knew there was something about the first 20 foot hull that was different then the 18 footer or the 22 foot Whaler. This then explains why some people felt these boats were not quite as smooth riding as the smaller 18 or the larger 22.

george nagy posted 07-10-2002 06:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for george nagy  Send Email to george nagy     
To be perfectly honest here, I really do not like the way the classic 13' pounded particularly when they were powered with max hp. I would prefer a 15'.

In regards to those negative comments on this post I personally don't think this post is out of line at all in fact I think it great that we all have a chance to learn both + and - issues associated with the different BW models. I don't know about the rest of you people here but I prefer discussing Whalers on any basis both + & -.

After all isn't that what this Forum is for. If we all wanted to speak or hear praise we would all just look and listen to MARKETING ploys made by the manufacturer.

I usually don't like to post on a post that has been turned into sort of an attack against the poster as not to perpetuate the deviation from the original poster's material, but in this case I think some people around here should lightenup on some of thier negative comments towards thier views on the particular post.

All in all this is great site and negative bashing just tends to distract JIMH from being able to add NEW material to this site.

george nagy posted 07-10-2002 06:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for george nagy  Send Email to george nagy     
Oops by the way I saw an old v20 outrage for sale in my local trader and considered purchasing it to mount my extra 150 johnson but after the information I just learned from THIS POST I'm going to cancel that idea.

Thank you RON3637 for posting this post and to NEWPORTGUY for paraphrasing info from TOM CLARK?

Ljurgo posted 07-10-2002 06:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ljurgo  Send Email to Ljurgo     
Whenever I'm on the water and think my boat, 1975 Bass Boat, has a rough ride I look around and quess what ? The only other boats out that day are 1) three times the size or 2) any other WHALER.
NEVER SCARED posted 07-10-2002 09:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for NEVER SCARED    
The worst handling/riding whalers made are the 9' tenders! They have a tough time with the huge swells of the Pacific!

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