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peteinsf posted 08-27-2002 05:20 PM ET (US)
While spending a very nice week in the San Juan Islands I did find the need for a craft to get to get on and off the beach. I did not feel that beaching a 25 was a great idea.
Does anyone use a dingy/raft or other blow up item with their whalers? Should I order the CPD SS keel guard? Take swimming lessons?
Pete
Chris J posted 08-28-2002 11:36 AM ET (US)
Beaching your 25 might be OK, if the conditions are right and the beach isn't rocky. The gel coat may wear a bit if you do it a lot, but if that is a concern you can put on a keelguard or something like it, or even just a few coats of good paint. Inspect the paint every now and then and re-paint when it shows wear.
I beach my 20' Revenge all the time with not ill effects.
The main issues are local conditions, like is the tide rising or falling or are you likely to take waves over the stern while it is on the beach.
As far as tenders go, I guess a cheap inflatable would do. Or to be really stylish you could drag a BW Squall behind you...
DaveH posted 08-28-2002 11:53 AM ET (US)
Pete:
I was told the CPD S/S keel guard is laid into the hull during construction. Only the exterior portion of this large piece is visible and it is not applicable afterwards. There was a thread several weeks ago about applying aftermarket keel guards as well as some info in the Reference section.
To allow proper beach disembarking, I use two anchors. Tidal range and wave action will determine if I leave it bow out or stern out. Set the first anchor off the deep area to allow for enough scope(7:1) and approach the shore. Tie off with enough depth on the stern and walk the shore anchor in and bury it. Adjustments should be made accordingly throughout the day. If you have a rocky bottom, you may need a trip line for the deep anchor.
WSTEFFENS posted 08-28-2002 12:32 PM ET (US)
Pete:
DFMcintyre had a 25' Outrage (page 16 cetacea) to which he had a mounting system for a 10' zodiac which he would pull up on the swim platform. It worked very well.
Best
WLS
Drisney posted 08-28-2002 01:12 PM ET (US)
Pete, I want all the details!!! I would love to take my boat up there. Depending of course on conditions but leaving an anchor bow out and another on the beach, if the waves aren't bad you can put the stern in about four feet of water and just wade in and out. Dave
peteinsf posted 08-28-2002 05:24 PM ET (US)
Dave -
It was a great trip, the weather was great! Generally we camped out in the bow of the Outrage and used a Colman stove on the transom hatch for cooking. We looked for quiet uninhabited coves for sleeping and cruised around site seeing during the day.
Rouch harbor area was very cool once you got away from the harbor itself. It was full of $1M yachts (lots with 16’+ whalers as tenders w/16 year old drivers).
GPS w/map (Garmin 188) made skippering easy, one day, looking for whales we ended up in 100ft visibility fog and GPSed or way back.
One of our favorite spots was a harbor on Orcas just north of “Obstruction Island” a very strange/cool B&B run by Kitty and he seadog husband. They own three classic wood boats/ships a 75’ 1926 tug a 90'+ 20 or 30’s motor yacht and a 60’ gaff rigged catch all in different states of repair. In addition to a Whaler sport 130!
As for the dingy, many spots we wanted to go ashore where primarily mud and not good for jumping out and walking.
Taylor posted 08-29-2002 08:05 PM ET (US)
I got an 'Anchor Buddy', basically 25 feet of shock cord with a casing that stops it when it hits 50'. It has a shackle at one end, and a carabinier type spring clip on the other.
You use it this way:
- Shackle one end of the anchor buddy to the stern eye. Set it aside. Get your anchor and anchor bucket 'a la Triblet' to the stern.
- Drop your hook a ways from shore. Run forward toward shore and set the hook.
- Pay out line till the bow is say 35' from shore. Tie a loop in the anchor line. Clip the free end of the anchor buddy to the anchor line.
- Run the bow onto the shore, stretching the anchor buddy out. Step off, taking a long bow line with you. (I use the bitter end of the anchor line)
- Push the boat back out, hang on the the bow line, let the anchor buddy pull the boat back out. Tie off the bow line to something like a rock, tree or log.
- Get back in the boat and adjust where the loop is, cause you put it in the wrong place to start with. (Try to avoid this step).
Taylor posted 08-29-2002 08:20 PM ET (US)
Roche (German for rock) Harbor was the Boston Whaler capital of the northwest in the 1960's and 70's. Everyone had one there. The resort dock is famous in my book for the way the dock boys at the resort throw the line down around the cleats. Its part of the show. But get away from the resort ASAP. I can't believe how big the docks are now. Visit Wescott bay, reportedly oysters are for sale there. See English Camp.

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Author	Topic: Tender for a Whaler?
peteinsf	posted 08-27-2002 05:20 PM ET (US) While spending a very nice week in the San Juan Islands I did find the need for a craft to get to get on and off the beach. I did not feel that beaching a 25 was a great idea. Does anyone use a dingy/raft or other blow up item with their whalers? Should I order the CPD SS keel guard? Take swimming lessons? Pete
Chris J	posted 08-28-2002 11:36 AM ET (US) Beaching your 25 might be OK, if the conditions are right and the beach isn't rocky. The gel coat may wear a bit if you do it a lot, but if that is a concern you can put on a keelguard or something like it, or even just a few coats of good paint. Inspect the paint every now and then and re-paint when it shows wear. I beach my 20' Revenge all the time with not ill effects. The main issues are local conditions, like is the tide rising or falling or are you likely to take waves over the stern while it is on the beach. As far as tenders go, I guess a cheap inflatable would do. Or to be really stylish you could drag a BW Squall behind you...
DaveH	posted 08-28-2002 11:53 AM ET (US) Pete: I was told the CPD S/S keel guard is laid into the hull during construction. Only the exterior portion of this large piece is visible and it is not applicable afterwards. There was a thread several weeks ago about applying aftermarket keel guards as well as some info in the Reference section. To allow proper beach disembarking, I use two anchors. Tidal range and wave action will determine if I leave it bow out or stern out. Set the first anchor off the deep area to allow for enough scope(7:1) and approach the shore. Tie off with enough depth on the stern and walk the shore anchor in and bury it. Adjustments should be made accordingly throughout the day. If you have a rocky bottom, you may need a trip line for the deep anchor.
WSTEFFENS	posted 08-28-2002 12:32 PM ET (US) Pete: DFMcintyre had a 25' Outrage (page 16 cetacea) to which he had a mounting system for a 10' zodiac which he would pull up on the swim platform. It worked very well. Best WLS
Drisney	posted 08-28-2002 01:12 PM ET (US) Pete, I want all the details!!! I would love to take my boat up there. Depending of course on conditions but leaving an anchor bow out and another on the beach, if the waves aren't bad you can put the stern in about four feet of water and just wade in and out. Dave
peteinsf	posted 08-28-2002 05:24 PM ET (US) Dave - It was a great trip, the weather was great! Generally we camped out in the bow of the Outrage and used a Colman stove on the transom hatch for cooking. We looked for quiet uninhabited coves for sleeping and cruised around site seeing during the day. Rouch harbor area was very cool once you got away from the harbor itself. It was full of $1M yachts (lots with 16’+ whalers as tenders w/16 year old drivers). GPS w/map (Garmin 188) made skippering easy, one day, looking for whales we ended up in 100ft visibility fog and GPSed or way back. One of our favorite spots was a harbor on Orcas just north of “Obstruction Island” a very strange/cool B&B run by Kitty and he seadog husband. They own three classic wood boats/ships a 75’ 1926 tug a 90'+ 20 or 30’s motor yacht and a 60’ gaff rigged catch all in different states of repair. In addition to a Whaler sport 130! As for the dingy, many spots we wanted to go ashore where primarily mud and not good for jumping out and walking.
Taylor	posted 08-29-2002 08:05 PM ET (US) I got an 'Anchor Buddy', basically 25 feet of shock cord with a casing that stops it when it hits 50'. It has a shackle at one end, and a carabinier type spring clip on the other. You use it this way: - Shackle one end of the anchor buddy to the stern eye. Set it aside. Get your anchor and anchor bucket 'a la Triblet' to the stern. - Drop your hook a ways from shore. Run forward toward shore and set the hook. - Pay out line till the bow is say 35' from shore. Tie a loop in the anchor line. Clip the free end of the anchor buddy to the anchor line. - Run the bow onto the shore, stretching the anchor buddy out. Step off, taking a long bow line with you. (I use the bitter end of the anchor line) - Push the boat back out, hang on the the bow line, let the anchor buddy pull the boat back out. Tie off the bow line to something like a rock, tree or log. - Get back in the boat and adjust where the loop is, cause you put it in the wrong place to start with. (Try to avoid this step).
Taylor	posted 08-29-2002 08:20 PM ET (US) Roche (German for rock) Harbor was the Boston Whaler capital of the northwest in the 1960's and 70's. Everyone had one there. The resort dock is famous in my book for the way the dock boys at the resort throw the line down around the cleats. Its part of the show. But get away from the resort ASAP. I can't believe how big the docks are now. Visit Wescott bay, reportedly oysters are for sale there. See English Camp.