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Arch Autenreith posted 11-10-2002 03:48 PM ET (US)
Unbelievable. New hour meter this spring and it shows 75. (48 of that was when I left the key on.) That leaves a grand total of 27 engine hours for 2002!! I'm embarassed. I spend more time on CW in a month. Who has the most? And who can beat me with less!
Arch
11 footer posted 11-10-2002 04:34 PM ET (US)
I put 32 hours on mine.
11
T Party posted 11-10-2002 09:31 PM ET (US)
I put 48 hours on my boat last year from the time I installed my hour meter (early August) thru the time I pulled the boat out for the season.
I now have 159 hours on the meter, but I'm not done yet for this year (I put about 3 hours on this weekend - it was spectacular out there with the leaves changing)!
DaveS posted 11-10-2002 09:57 PM ET (US)
I don't feel so bad now, I guess misery loves company! I put on less than 15 hours this year, between working on the boat, work and the kids, I thought I'd have more...and I have no excuses...I'm a teacher!!! I have summers off!
Well, next year...
DaveS
Just to show you what kind of luck I've had this year, I was going to take my older son fishing today...well, I checked the report for today and there was a small craft advisory...put a stop to that really quick. Just seems when I can go the weather just doesn't cooperate...any ideas on how to appease the God of Weather?
Arch Autenreith posted 11-10-2002 10:02 PM ET (US)
Weather God is easy. Commit to other plans that can't be changed for any reason no matter what. It'll turn out to be the perfect day for fishing or boating.
Works all the time for me.
kgregg posted 11-10-2002 11:09 PM ET (US)
No engine hour meter on my boat (sadly). We bought it in late August and have used it nearly every weekend since then. Have to wonder how many hours this adds up to. What sense does it make to install an hour meter on a 1991 boat & motor? Little, I think.
T Party posted 11-11-2002 10:23 AM ET (US)
I guess I'm full of nonsense, then... I have a 1978 boat with a 1991 Johnson 90 motor. I installed it mostly because I was curious as to how many hours I was putting on the boat, but also for regular maintenance.
Probably the biggest reason was that it had a broken hour meter on it: the reasons above are my rationalizations for replacing a broken meter for a working one.
DaveNJ posted 11-11-2002 11:34 AM ET (US)
Arch -
I can beat your 27 hours.
ZERO (0) hours for 2002. I did not have a boat. I did not even get to paddle a little plastic kayak this year.
Be thankful you had a boat and had some fun at least for 27 hours.
I will have one for 2003. Can't wait to get my restore project out on the water then!
Arch Autenreith posted 11-11-2002 11:58 AM ET (US)
Dave,
Doesn't count. Yours isn't completed and in the water...yet. Having it ready to go and not using it is what makes mine so pathetic. Make sure you show us pics of your completed project!
Living 275 miles from the water also contributes to it also. Also my fishing buddy (son) just turned 13. Dad just went down a wrung on the ladder people to do things with. Girls went up about 10. I guess he's normal though.
Bigshot posted 11-11-2002 12:58 PM ET (US)
My Montauk has 120 so far this year, actually 224 if you count the 104 the dealer put on when they left the key on after servicing it. My Baja I put another 35 and my 13 about 20+. So about 175 so far this year so probably about 200+ by years end. Gosh...Florida sucks!
Dr T posted 11-11-2002 01:11 PM ET (US)
I have you Arch, but no hour to document it:
I estimate less than 5. Two weekends in Steamboat Springs (at about 2.5 hours per), and about 9 gallons of fuel through a '82 Johnson 35 hp.
No water within reach at lower elevations in Colorado this summer. Right now the mountains are getting hammered with snow so there is hope for next year for the mountain lakes. Snow is still on the other side of the Divide so it is still dry on the Front Range.
reelescape1 posted 11-11-2002 03:12 PM ET (US)
New Yam 225 in April....101 hrs now...fished a friends new boat most of the year, 23' Triton with twin 150 HPDI's...I think its at 280+!!
BugsyG posted 11-11-2002 03:20 PM ET (US)
I had my engine rebuilt in february, launched it on june 12 and put 85 hours on this year...thats good for the engine because like when it turns 100 then the engine will be broken in which is good
David Ratusnik posted 11-11-2002 03:22 PM ET (US)
52 wks x's 8 hrs/wk (don't add in holidays) equals 416 total hrs. David
blavid posted 11-11-2002 04:36 PM ET (US)
My first Whaler (and first boat), so I had to put 160 hours on it since purchasing it in April 2002! It is a 2002 210 Ventura with a 2002 Optimax 200, and no major problems so far. I definitely have more hours to put on this year as fishing season is just starting here in Tampa.
Oh, BTW, does anyone else have a noisy baitwell pump? I had mine recently replaced by my dealer and it still sounds god awful...something like a fork stuck in a blender....Are these Shurwell pumps supposed to be loud like this? Maybe I gotta call the dealer again.
Jerry Townsend posted 11-11-2002 04:52 PM ET (US)
Dr. T - might or might not have the record - as I put maybe 5 hours (fishing one day) on the water this year and as Dr T pointed out -no water in Idaho either. Some of the resorvoirs were down to 7 % of capacity. I was tempted to put my outrage on the Snake river, but clobbering a rock would take all of the fun out of it. Hopefully, next year will be better - hell, it will be as it can't be any worse. ------ Jerry/Idaho
Arch Autenreith posted 11-11-2002 05:50 PM ET (US)
You Florida guys sure rub it in. From now until March you'll all still be adding hours while us Northerners just watch the snow pile up. What a drag. I have another 5-6 years 'til the kids go off to college then none of you will have anything on me. I'm outta here (Pgh). Comin' South.
In my new life I wanna be David Ratusnik. Heck, he even doubled Bigshot! 8 hours/week all year? Are you a guide? Lucky fellow.
Arch Autenreith posted 11-11-2002 05:52 PM ET (US)
Sorry Dave. I see you're a professor. You must have tenure to spend that much time on the water ;-)
David Ratusnik posted 11-11-2002 06:58 PM ET (US)
Arch- I do, and I earned it. By the way, I am not calculating the engine time/on the water spent with my colleagues contemplating God knows what in committee meetings. Yep, I meet on the water as often as possible. Twice this term. As you might expect, getting the Department's business done is less painfull. David
Eric posted 11-11-2002 09:32 PM ET (US)
I didn't keep track of where the meter was on January first, but I rigged my boat last January (2001), and turned over 100 hours a couple of weeks ago. I think about 65 of them have been this year.
It's been hard to get out this year, I've had some really difficult family obligations to deal with (and it ain't over yet).
I caught a 16 and a 20 pound kingfish that day, plus the biggest mackerel I've ever caught (it ate an 11 inch blue runner).
kgregg posted 11-11-2002 09:41 PM ET (US)
>Also my fishing buddy (son) just
>turned 13. Dad just went down a
>wrung on the ladder people to
>do things with. Girls went up
>about 10. I guess he's normal
Arch-
I must be lucky. My 14 yr old son wants to spend every weekend fishing on the boat with me. We watch fishing shows on TV. I have no complaints! His interest in girls can wait!
Dr T posted 11-11-2002 09:47 PM ET (US)
Jerry, I will concede. At least I got to spread my time over a couple of weekends.
And, David, if you are doing your committee work on the water, I may--at some point in the far distant future--reconsider my decision (made 24 years ago) to abandon academia for industry. However, since I get to occasionally do something like go salmon fishing in Alaska while on a business trip, I will have to think REAL HARD about it. As I think about it, the Whaler is probably a nearly ideal place to have a committee meeting. And, IF things get out of hand, you can always suggest that the more factious faculty members simply walk home. [NOTE: I am absolutely positive that David's Communication Department faculty are much more agreeable and focused on the needs of society than those in the Mathematics Department where I did my doctoral work. My cynicism about academic politics is highly colored by personal experience, and does not at all reflect on the very real job that David and his department do.--Terry]
David Pendleton posted 11-11-2002 10:10 PM ET (US)
When I changed the oil just before layup, the oil coming out was cleaner than the new oil I was putting in ;).
I didn't get many hours this year, but what I did get was very high-quality, i.e. Lake Superior and Lake Michigan.
Didn't get out much at all on my home waters, the St. Croix River between MN and WI.
Maybe next year.
Dave

EddieS posted 11-12-2002 12:16 AM ET (US)
Didnt get the boat in the water until May of this year but still managed to rack up 120 during salmon season. May get another 20 or so with sturgeon fishing (mostly on the hook).
Ed
David Ratusnik posted 11-12-2002 06:45 AM ET (US)
Dr T- Your insights are perfectly on target. Actually, I have several colleagues who if invited to walk home (from the Whaler) due behavior, believe they could do so. Academia versus industry, suspect it's like Whaler hulls versus deep V's, an upside and a downside.
By the way, the vast majority of my boating is on Friday afternoon, Saturday and Sunday.
David
Gep posted 11-12-2002 08:47 AM ET (US)
I bought my Outrage in July and only put about 15 hours on it, but that doesn't count the endless hours sitting at the beach watching the kids swim.
I'll live on it next summer!
Mike
Dr T posted 11-12-2002 11:29 AM ET (US)
David,
I have met my share of faculty members like that. At least they are easy to describe mathematically: Many is the zero that believes that it is the ellipse upon which the Earth makes its way about the Sun.
The Whaler is probably an ideal spot to meet with your graduate students. Plus, you can get them to do the hard work of loading and unloading the boat.
tds
WhalerAce posted 11-12-2002 01:31 PM ET (US)
Two Hours and fifteen minutes!
Two hours after hauling the boat to my parent's house and got to use it one afternoon before the thunderstorms hit.
The fifteen minutes was the check-out ride for the prospective buyer (who by the way, did buy the boat).

As an aside, the buyer of our boat reads this forum, but has no screen-name yet, so I suspect there are a lot more observers out there than we think. And another point -- I think that once someone said that all of the rendezvous pictures hold a common theme of great people around Whalers with different backdrops. This seems to be true -- we had a great time with our buyer, and look forward to seeing him and his family again, hopefully on a rendezvous.
Sorry for the rambling with the disjointed thoughts.
Ace
PS Once we get the Temptation home, I hope to filter a bunch of gas through my twin Yamahas!
aubv posted 11-12-2002 02:42 PM ET (US)
We only manager 75 hours running time and maybe 100 hours total on the 23'OR. 12 of the running hours where a trip from NJ to Mass. Put about 24 hours on the 17'OR. It was so windy in the NE this year that boating was difficult at best.
I not complaining mind you, there are lots of people who don't own boats and are far removed from any sizable bodies of water. Makes me happy just pulling into the drive way and seeing the boats safely tucked away for the winter.
Only about 154 days till left till next season begins, but who's counting?
David Ratusnik posted 11-12-2002 03:04 PM ET (US)
Dr T- LOL I'm not enough a cone head for some of them, yet have real deal tickets. You are correct, it's the students. Good luck. David
Bigshot posted 11-12-2002 03:54 PM ET (US)
154 days.....when did it end? hahahahahahaha. Yeah I miss NJ......hahahahahahaha. Was 82 today, gulf is still high 70's........hahahahahahaha. Anyone want to buy a wetsuit?......hahahahahahah. Gosh I'm a real jerk eh?.....hahahahahahaha.
aubv posted 11-12-2002 04:28 PM ET (US)
Bigshot,
Can I find a picture of you in the rendezvous section? I'd like to print a couple of copies out so I can throw snow balls at you! Florida's a nice place to visit but some how Palm trees decorated with ornaments doesn't do it for me. The seasons give a certain cadence to the north, that I missed when I went to school at U of M. Your probably the exception, I'm sure lots of southern boaters pack it in for part of the year. After all, most people who spend any time in Florida start to complain, it's toooo cold when it gets in the 50's.
Brian
PS. I'll make sure a couple of those snow balls are slush balls!
Bigshot posted 11-12-2002 04:39 PM ET (US)
Yeah I know....most are wussies. I pushed it to mid-November in NJ so when it hits the 50's I can still manage yet I am about the only one on the water. It does drop into the 30's here in late jan/early Feb but it is a rarity so no winterization is necessary. I do not miss the cold and if I want to see fall foliage, I just have to drive about 80 miles North and there are little to no palm trees up there and the leaves do turn. I can take you to places in FL that look like anywhere else in the US you have seen. Remember palm trees are not indigenous to FL, they came from the Arab nations I believe. It did snow down here about 15 years ago and it took 2 whole cars for my bud(from NJ) to make 1 snowball so watch your back:)

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Author	Topic: Pathetic engine hours this year.
Arch Autenreith	posted 11-10-2002 03:48 PM ET (US) Unbelievable. New hour meter this spring and it shows 75. (48 of that was when I left the key on.) That leaves a grand total of 27 engine hours for 2002!! I'm embarassed. I spend more time on CW in a month. Who has the most? And who can beat me with less! Arch
11 footer	posted 11-10-2002 04:34 PM ET (US) I put 32 hours on mine. 11
T Party	posted 11-10-2002 09:31 PM ET (US) I put 48 hours on my boat last year from the time I installed my hour meter (early August) thru the time I pulled the boat out for the season. I now have 159 hours on the meter, but I'm not done yet for this year (I put about 3 hours on this weekend - it was spectacular out there with the leaves changing)!
DaveS	posted 11-10-2002 09:57 PM ET (US) I don't feel so bad now, I guess misery loves company! I put on less than 15 hours this year, between working on the boat, work and the kids, I thought I'd have more...and I have no excuses...I'm a teacher!!! I have summers off! Well, next year... DaveS Just to show you what kind of luck I've had this year, I was going to take my older son fishing today...well, I checked the report for today and there was a small craft advisory...put a stop to that really quick. Just seems when I can go the weather just doesn't cooperate...any ideas on how to appease the God of Weather?
Arch Autenreith	posted 11-10-2002 10:02 PM ET (US) Weather God is easy. Commit to other plans that can't be changed for any reason no matter what. It'll turn out to be the perfect day for fishing or boating. Works all the time for me.
kgregg	posted 11-10-2002 11:09 PM ET (US) No engine hour meter on my boat (sadly). We bought it in late August and have used it nearly every weekend since then. Have to wonder how many hours this adds up to. What sense does it make to install an hour meter on a 1991 boat & motor? Little, I think.
T Party	posted 11-11-2002 10:23 AM ET (US) I guess I'm full of nonsense, then... I have a 1978 boat with a 1991 Johnson 90 motor. I installed it mostly because I was curious as to how many hours I was putting on the boat, but also for regular maintenance. Probably the biggest reason was that it had a broken hour meter on it: the reasons above are my rationalizations for replacing a broken meter for a working one.
DaveNJ	posted 11-11-2002 11:34 AM ET (US) Arch - I can beat your 27 hours. ZERO (0) hours for 2002. I did not have a boat. I did not even get to paddle a little plastic kayak this year. Be thankful you had a boat and had some fun at least for 27 hours. I will have one for 2003. Can't wait to get my restore project out on the water then!
Arch Autenreith	posted 11-11-2002 11:58 AM ET (US) Dave, Doesn't count. Yours isn't completed and in the water...yet. Having it ready to go and not using it is what makes mine so pathetic. Make sure you show us pics of your completed project! Living 275 miles from the water also contributes to it also. Also my fishing buddy (son) just turned 13. Dad just went down a wrung on the ladder people to do things with. Girls went up about 10. I guess he's normal though.
Bigshot	posted 11-11-2002 12:58 PM ET (US) My Montauk has 120 so far this year, actually 224 if you count the 104 the dealer put on when they left the key on after servicing it. My Baja I put another 35 and my 13 about 20+. So about 175 so far this year so probably about 200+ by years end. Gosh...Florida sucks!
Dr T	posted 11-11-2002 01:11 PM ET (US) I have you Arch, but no hour to document it: I estimate less than 5. Two weekends in Steamboat Springs (at about 2.5 hours per), and about 9 gallons of fuel through a '82 Johnson 35 hp. No water within reach at lower elevations in Colorado this summer. Right now the mountains are getting hammered with snow so there is hope for next year for the mountain lakes. Snow is still on the other side of the Divide so it is still dry on the Front Range.
reelescape1	posted 11-11-2002 03:12 PM ET (US) New Yam 225 in April....101 hrs now...fished a friends new boat most of the year, 23' Triton with twin 150 HPDI's...I think its at 280+!!
BugsyG	posted 11-11-2002 03:20 PM ET (US) I had my engine rebuilt in february, launched it on june 12 and put 85 hours on this year...thats good for the engine because like when it turns 100 then the engine will be broken in which is good
David Ratusnik	posted 11-11-2002 03:22 PM ET (US) 52 wks x's 8 hrs/wk (don't add in holidays) equals 416 total hrs. David
blavid	posted 11-11-2002 04:36 PM ET (US) My first Whaler (and first boat), so I had to put 160 hours on it since purchasing it in April 2002! It is a 2002 210 Ventura with a 2002 Optimax 200, and no major problems so far. I definitely have more hours to put on this year as fishing season is just starting here in Tampa. Oh, BTW, does anyone else have a noisy baitwell pump? I had mine recently replaced by my dealer and it still sounds god awful...something like a fork stuck in a blender....Are these Shurwell pumps supposed to be loud like this? Maybe I gotta call the dealer again.
Jerry Townsend	posted 11-11-2002 04:52 PM ET (US) Dr. T - might or might not have the record - as I put maybe 5 hours (fishing one day) on the water this year and as Dr T pointed out -no water in Idaho either. Some of the resorvoirs were down to 7 % of capacity. I was tempted to put my outrage on the Snake river, but clobbering a rock would take all of the fun out of it. Hopefully, next year will be better - hell, it will be as it can't be any worse. ------ Jerry/Idaho
Arch Autenreith	posted 11-11-2002 05:50 PM ET (US) You Florida guys sure rub it in. From now until March you'll all still be adding hours while us Northerners just watch the snow pile up. What a drag. I have another 5-6 years 'til the kids go off to college then none of you will have anything on me. I'm outta here (Pgh). Comin' South. In my new life I wanna be David Ratusnik. Heck, he even doubled Bigshot! 8 hours/week all year? Are you a guide? Lucky fellow.
Arch Autenreith	posted 11-11-2002 05:52 PM ET (US) Sorry Dave. I see you're a professor. You must have tenure to spend that much time on the water ;-)
David Ratusnik	posted 11-11-2002 06:58 PM ET (US) Arch- I do, and I earned it. By the way, I am not calculating the engine time/on the water spent with my colleagues contemplating God knows what in committee meetings. Yep, I meet on the water as often as possible. Twice this term. As you might expect, getting the Department's business done is less painfull. David
Eric	posted 11-11-2002 09:32 PM ET (US) I didn't keep track of where the meter was on January first, but I rigged my boat last January (2001), and turned over 100 hours a couple of weeks ago. I think about 65 of them have been this year. It's been hard to get out this year, I've had some really difficult family obligations to deal with (and it ain't over yet). I caught a 16 and a 20 pound kingfish that day, plus the biggest mackerel I've ever caught (it ate an 11 inch blue runner).
kgregg	posted 11-11-2002 09:41 PM ET (US) >Also my fishing buddy (son) just >turned 13. Dad just went down a >wrung on the ladder people to >do things with. Girls went up >about 10. I guess he's normal Arch- I must be lucky. My 14 yr old son wants to spend every weekend fishing on the boat with me. We watch fishing shows on TV. I have no complaints! His interest in girls can wait!
Dr T	posted 11-11-2002 09:47 PM ET (US) Jerry, I will concede. At least I got to spread my time over a couple of weekends. And, David, if you are doing your committee work on the water, I may--at some point in the far distant future--reconsider my decision (made 24 years ago) to abandon academia for industry. However, since I get to occasionally do something like go salmon fishing in Alaska while on a business trip, I will have to think REAL HARD about it. As I think about it, the Whaler is probably a nearly ideal place to have a committee meeting. And, IF things get out of hand, you can always suggest that the more factious faculty members simply walk home. [NOTE: I am absolutely positive that David's Communication Department faculty are much more agreeable and focused on the needs of society than those in the Mathematics Department where I did my doctoral work. My cynicism about academic politics is highly colored by personal experience, and does not at all reflect on the very real job that David and his department do.--Terry]
David Pendleton	posted 11-11-2002 10:10 PM ET (US) When I changed the oil just before layup, the oil coming out was cleaner than the new oil I was putting in ;). I didn't get many hours this year, but what I did get was very high-quality, i.e. Lake Superior and Lake Michigan. Didn't get out much at all on my home waters, the St. Croix River between MN and WI. Maybe next year. Dave
EddieS	posted 11-12-2002 12:16 AM ET (US) Didnt get the boat in the water until May of this year but still managed to rack up 120 during salmon season. May get another 20 or so with sturgeon fishing (mostly on the hook). Ed
David Ratusnik	posted 11-12-2002 06:45 AM ET (US) Dr T- Your insights are perfectly on target. Actually, I have several colleagues who if invited to walk home (from the Whaler) due behavior, believe they could do so. Academia versus industry, suspect it's like Whaler hulls versus deep V's, an upside and a downside. By the way, the vast majority of my boating is on Friday afternoon, Saturday and Sunday. David
Gep	posted 11-12-2002 08:47 AM ET (US) I bought my Outrage in July and only put about 15 hours on it, but that doesn't count the endless hours sitting at the beach watching the kids swim. I'll live on it next summer! Mike
Dr T	posted 11-12-2002 11:29 AM ET (US) David, I have met my share of faculty members like that. At least they are easy to describe mathematically: Many is the zero that believes that it is the ellipse upon which the Earth makes its way about the Sun. The Whaler is probably an ideal spot to meet with your graduate students. Plus, you can get them to do the hard work of loading and unloading the boat. tds
WhalerAce	posted 11-12-2002 01:31 PM ET (US) Two Hours and fifteen minutes! Two hours after hauling the boat to my parent's house and got to use it one afternoon before the thunderstorms hit. The fifteen minutes was the check-out ride for the prospective buyer (who by the way, did buy the boat). As an aside, the buyer of our boat reads this forum, but has no screen-name yet, so I suspect there are a lot more observers out there than we think. And another point -- I think that once someone said that all of the rendezvous pictures hold a common theme of great people around Whalers with different backdrops. This seems to be true -- we had a great time with our buyer, and look forward to seeing him and his family again, hopefully on a rendezvous. Sorry for the rambling with the disjointed thoughts. Ace PS Once we get the Temptation home, I hope to filter a bunch of gas through my twin Yamahas!
aubv	posted 11-12-2002 02:42 PM ET (US) We only manager 75 hours running time and maybe 100 hours total on the 23'OR. 12 of the running hours where a trip from NJ to Mass. Put about 24 hours on the 17'OR. It was so windy in the NE this year that boating was difficult at best. I not complaining mind you, there are lots of people who don't own boats and are far removed from any sizable bodies of water. Makes me happy just pulling into the drive way and seeing the boats safely tucked away for the winter. Only about 154 days till left till next season begins, but who's counting?
David Ratusnik	posted 11-12-2002 03:04 PM ET (US) Dr T- LOL I'm not enough a cone head for some of them, yet have real deal tickets. You are correct, it's the students. Good luck. David
Bigshot	posted 11-12-2002 03:54 PM ET (US) 154 days.....when did it end? hahahahahahaha. Yeah I miss NJ......hahahahahahaha. Was 82 today, gulf is still high 70's........hahahahahahaha. Anyone want to buy a wetsuit?......hahahahahahah. Gosh I'm a real jerk eh?.....hahahahahahaha.
aubv	posted 11-12-2002 04:28 PM ET (US) Bigshot, Can I find a picture of you in the rendezvous section? I'd like to print a couple of copies out so I can throw snow balls at you! Florida's a nice place to visit but some how Palm trees decorated with ornaments doesn't do it for me. The seasons give a certain cadence to the north, that I missed when I went to school at U of M. Your probably the exception, I'm sure lots of southern boaters pack it in for part of the year. After all, most people who spend any time in Florida start to complain, it's toooo cold when it gets in the 50's. Brian PS. I'll make sure a couple of those snow balls are slush balls!
Bigshot	posted 11-12-2002 04:39 PM ET (US) Yeah I know....most are wussies. I pushed it to mid-November in NJ so when it hits the 50's I can still manage yet I am about the only one on the water. It does drop into the 30's here in late jan/early Feb but it is a rarity so no winterization is necessary. I do not miss the cold and if I want to see fall foliage, I just have to drive about 80 miles North and there are little to no palm trees up there and the leaves do turn. I can take you to places in FL that look like anywhere else in the US you have seen. Remember palm trees are not indigenous to FL, they came from the Arab nations I believe. It did snow down here about 15 years ago and it took 2 whole cars for my bud(from NJ) to make 1 snowball so watch your back:)