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huladick posted 03-21-2003 09:30 PM ET (US)
I'm looking at a 1983 model and wondered how the older hull designs compare to the newer models. Any comments appreciated. Thanks.
BugsyG posted 03-22-2003 07:54 AM ET (US)
Hello Hula,
I have a 1966 hull and it is smirkless. Yours has a smirk in the front. What I think, I think that the older hulls styles ride nicer than the newer ones. For instance, the newer montauk is heavier, and wider. The older montauk hull is a bit more narrow, yet is lighter. My smirkless hull, in my opinion, handles waves quite well in following seas. (I think how the hull is formed makese a big difference).
I have not rid in a newer montauk, but I have in a smirky one like yours. They are both really good. The good thing about yours, is that you have a deeper V in the hull and the smirk. Mine is nice because its a bit more shallow draft. I hoped I helped you out a little bit. Thank you
JAZZ
jimh posted 03-22-2003 11:31 AM ET (US)
There are three variants of hull produced with the MONTAUK name. From 1961-1976 there was the original hull referred to as a 16-MONTAUK. In c.1976 a significant redesign of the hull was made, which stayed in production until 2002 and was known as the 17-MONTAUK. In 2002 a completely different hull design was produced as the 170-Montauk
I understand you are considering the purchase of a 1983 17-MONTAUK. Do you wish comments on comparing it to a pre-1976 MONTAUK or to a post 2002 MONTAUK? It is not clear to me from your message which comparison you are asking about.
Have you read the Reference Section article on the 16/17-foot hulls? This may provide you with some information on this topic.
See: http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/16-17/
If you are seeking a comparison between the classic 16/17-foot MONTAUK (produced for about 40-years until 2002) and the very recently producted 170-MONTAUK (first produced in 2002), you should also read the Reference Section article:
http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/170Montauk/
In addition, there is a CETACEA section article on the new MONTAUK-170 with a lengthy follow message thread. This will give you much more feedback on the MONTAUK-170:
http://continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/cetaceaPage58.html
And there are probably 50 or more pictures of the classic 16/17-Montauk in the CETACEA section of the website. The photographs, their captions, the narrative text that accompanies them, and the follow-up message threads that discuss them all contain a great deal of information on these MONTAUK's.
If all this information fails to slake your thrist for knowledge about these three different hulls, I suggest you post a follow up question here.
[Edited TOPIC to grow Montauk from 17-inches to 17-feet--jimh]
huladick posted 03-22-2003 02:55 PM ET (US)
Thanks both for the replies. I have a 1964 13 Classic now. Love the little boat, but would like to go bigger. Just wondering how the ride compares in heavier water. I would assume the Montauk would handle it much better. Thanks again.... Dick M.
Blackbeard posted 07-20-2008 12:24 PM ET (US)
[This discussion on variations in hull forms for the Boston Whaler MONTAUK hull was revived after being dormant for five years, only to change the topic of discussion to a completely new topic. Please do not revive older discussions, particularly ones dormant for five years, only to change the topic. If you wish to change the topic, please begin a new discussion.--jimh]

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Author	Topic: 17-Montauk Hull Designs
huladick	posted 03-21-2003 09:30 PM ET (US) I'm looking at a 1983 model and wondered how the older hull designs compare to the newer models. Any comments appreciated. Thanks.
BugsyG	posted 03-22-2003 07:54 AM ET (US) Hello Hula, I have a 1966 hull and it is smirkless. Yours has a smirk in the front. What I think, I think that the older hulls styles ride nicer than the newer ones. For instance, the newer montauk is heavier, and wider. The older montauk hull is a bit more narrow, yet is lighter. My smirkless hull, in my opinion, handles waves quite well in following seas. (I think how the hull is formed makese a big difference). I have not rid in a newer montauk, but I have in a smirky one like yours. They are both really good. The good thing about yours, is that you have a deeper V in the hull and the smirk. Mine is nice because its a bit more shallow draft. I hoped I helped you out a little bit. Thank you JAZZ
jimh	posted 03-22-2003 11:31 AM ET (US) There are three variants of hull produced with the MONTAUK name. From 1961-1976 there was the original hull referred to as a 16-MONTAUK. In c.1976 a significant redesign of the hull was made, which stayed in production until 2002 and was known as the 17-MONTAUK. In 2002 a completely different hull design was produced as the 170-Montauk I understand you are considering the purchase of a 1983 17-MONTAUK. Do you wish comments on comparing it to a pre-1976 MONTAUK or to a post 2002 MONTAUK? It is not clear to me from your message which comparison you are asking about. Have you read the Reference Section article on the 16/17-foot hulls? This may provide you with some information on this topic. See: http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/16-17/ If you are seeking a comparison between the classic 16/17-foot MONTAUK (produced for about 40-years until 2002) and the very recently producted 170-MONTAUK (first produced in 2002), you should also read the Reference Section article: http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/170Montauk/ In addition, there is a CETACEA section article on the new MONTAUK-170 with a lengthy follow message thread. This will give you much more feedback on the MONTAUK-170: http://continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/cetaceaPage58.html And there are probably 50 or more pictures of the classic 16/17-Montauk in the CETACEA section of the website. The photographs, their captions, the narrative text that accompanies them, and the follow-up message threads that discuss them all contain a great deal of information on these MONTAUK's. If all this information fails to slake your thrist for knowledge about these three different hulls, I suggest you post a follow up question here. [Edited TOPIC to grow Montauk from 17-inches to 17-feet--jimh]
huladick	posted 03-22-2003 02:55 PM ET (US) Thanks both for the replies. I have a 1964 13 Classic now. Love the little boat, but would like to go bigger. Just wondering how the ride compares in heavier water. I would assume the Montauk would handle it much better. Thanks again.... Dick M.
Blackbeard	posted 07-20-2008 12:24 PM ET (US) [This discussion on variations in hull forms for the Boston Whaler MONTAUK hull was revived after being dormant for five years, only to change the topic of discussion to a completely new topic. Please do not revive older discussions, particularly ones dormant for five years, only to change the topic. If you wish to change the topic, please begin a new discussion.--jimh]