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whalerajm posted 08-06-2003 12:09 PM ET (US)   Profile for whalerajm   Send Email to whalerajm  
I live in NJ and am heading out to Southhampton, NY for 4 day weekend...I'm thinking about trailering my Montauk out there but am unfamiliar with local ramps, bays, inlets and waterways in general for that area.

Can anyone provide some input on local waterways and ramp locations and access to visiting Whalers?

Thanks!

BillB posted 08-06-2003 12:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for BillB  Send Email to BillB     
It's a big town...Where are you staying ?
whalerajm posted 08-06-2003 05:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalerajm  Send Email to whalerajm     
Hey BillB,

Staying on Little Plains Rd., South Hampton Village, NY...

Should I bring the boat? Any ideas on where to launch nearby?

Thanks!

BillB posted 08-06-2003 06:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for BillB  Send Email to BillB     
Don't leave the Montauk home; you'd miss the best part of the East End. The Peconics and Gardiner's Bays are great Whaler country.... Lots of room to open it up and plenty of thin water areas to explore. Be sure to get yourself a chart of the area (if you don't already have one) before you come out. For ramps near Southampton Village call the Southampton Town Trustees, (631) 287-5717.

But as you are only about 8 or 9 miles from Sag Harbor I would suggest that you launch at the village ramp in Sag Harbor. I believe that the fee was around four or five dollars the last time I checked. Call the Harbormaster at (631) 725-2368. As with most resort towns out here things get crowded fast in season so launch early!! The ramp is at the intersection of Rysam and Bay St's and you should have no problem finding a place for the trailer and tow vehicle up on Rysam.

Besides being a place that you shouldn't miss, putting in here at the harbor lands you right in between the Peconics and Gardiner's Bay with short hops to places like Greenport and Shelter Island. Lots of weekend boat traffic so, if you're able to, head out on a week day.

If you’re up to it the trip to Montauk Point is only a little over 20 miles. Usually a piece of cake for a Montauk with a 90...The usual weather caveat goes here as it can blow up into a nasty chop real quick.

I see that you have a '75 Montauk with a '96 Evinrude 90..... I'm in the middle of a restoration job on my 1976 Montauk with a '96 Johnson 90 ...I must say you have you have good taste in Whalers ;)

Have fun
Bill

whalerajm posted 08-06-2003 07:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalerajm  Send Email to whalerajm     
BillB

Thanks for input...Sounds good...I off to the garage right now to prep boat for trip!

I do like you choice of whalers...I try to post a photo of my '75 Montauk in next week or two...

Thanks again!

Bertramp posted 08-07-2003 10:23 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bertramp  Send Email to Bertramp     
He did steer you right .... I boat (15 whaler cc and a host of others) out of Sag Harbor and it is in my opinion one of the best boating towns around. The downside is the ramp. There is not any easy or convenient place to tie once the boat is in the water. The ramp is also not steep enough, so low tide, when your trailer actually drops off the far end of the ramp is usually easier for launch and retrieve. Nice green hulled downeaster next to the ramp. From Sag ... take a nice ride around Shelter Island ... those huge buildings that look like hotels ... private houses of the rich and famous. Sag also has one of the biggest collections of megayachts around ... fun to tool around the inner harbor. Run to Montauk is quick and easy ... "Claudios" in Greenport for lunch and a cold one is a good stop as is "The Corner" in Sag Harbor. The Peconics are also gorgeous. Fishing ... see Kenny at "Tight Lines" bait and tackle ...located in Sag Harbor Yacht Yard... a 2 minute walk from the ramp.
If you can hit the "East End" during the week ...even better.
I don't live in Sag Harbor ... but I do call it home .... enjoy !! If you see the "Buffalo Soldier" (15 whaler) or "Good Bait" (23 Mako) ... stop and say Hi !
After the trip, please let us know what you thought.
whalerajm posted 08-21-2003 10:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalerajm  Send Email to whalerajm     
BillB and Bertramp,

Thanks for input guys...Got delayed but just spent three days WHALERING in the Hamptons...Some good, some bad to report:

SOUTHAMPTON
Searching for a useable ramp for a non-resident is tough. Southampton Trustees control 9 of 10 Southhampton ramps...$150 seasonal permit is only option for non-residents (no daily launch permit)...Bottom line, "trailer-boat trash doesn't belong here and isn't welcome here"...They suggested I try Hampton Bays, the next town to the west. What I eventually learned (which they did not tell me) is that the Southampton Parks and Recreation Dept. controls the one "other" ramp owned by Southampton. under the bridge (Pomaque ?)at the South end of Shinnacock Bay...This was only $25 for non-resident season permit. The bay and the inlet were beautiful and bayside beaches great for anchoring and swimming...the fishing great (weaks, blues and fluke)...The ramp was empty, new, adequate parking but tricky to use with strong wind from SW.

SAG HARBOR
Friendly harbor master gave mixed message...Sure you can use the ramp (only $5)...but, "I have to warn you", he said, "the ramp is unuseable at low tide because it's short and you'll drop off end of ramp, there is no place to park a truck and trailer without special permit (can someone drop you off?), in order to lauch or retrieve a boat you must back across Bay Ave into ramp, blocking main drag thru town, which local police will not allow you to do...this is a particularly tough problem when launching by yourself (launch before 6 am and retrieve after 1 am ?)...

Bottom line here is this area is not too friendly to visiting trailer boaters...You are probably better off finding a marina that will provide transient slip for length of your stay...Local waters (Peconic Bay, Sag Harbor, Shinnacock Bay, etc. are clean, beautiful, scenic and well worth the trip if you plan accordingly.

mustang7nh posted 08-22-2003 09:48 AM ET (US)     Profile for mustang7nh  Send Email to mustang7nh     
Hi,

I live across Peconic Bay from Southampton. Sorry to hear about all the problems. That is ridiculous. Next time, make a left at Riverhead and take the North Fork of Long Island to Jamesport. There is a very nice State Ramp, free!!. Plenty of parking. And its only a ten minute boat ride to the Shinnecock Canal locks to get over to the Hamptons. But don't forget the north side of the South Fork. Plenty of good places here to.

Take care and send me an email next time you come out.

whalerajm posted 08-22-2003 02:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalerajm  Send Email to whalerajm     

Thanks...Sounds like good advice...Learning the ins and outs of a new area can be time consuming and frustrating...

Just had a thought...Is anyone aware of published or internet sites providing info for out of town boaters, such as boat launches, marinas for transients, good fishing, inlets, general recommendations...

Seems to me if we knew what was out there and could plan accordingly we'd all hit the road to explore new waters more often...

Pat Mac posted 08-22-2003 04:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for Pat Mac  Send Email to Pat Mac     
Here is the site address for The Fishing Line - www.thefishingline.com They have a very complete ramp list and some other good info.

Noreast.com is also another good site for general info.

I launch my Montauk out of New Suffolk on the North Fork and have had only good experiences thus far (I do have the benefit of my father in-laws resident sticker).

Good luck,

Pat

BillB posted 08-26-2003 02:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for BillB  Send Email to BillB     
Andy,

Sorry to hear about your experience with the Harbormaster, and I have to agree that it sounds very anti-visitor. (Surprising in a village that promotes itself as a boating destination)

You did get a bum steer about the parking. He was referring to the spaces immediately adjacent to the ramp....All 2 hour.

He should have mentioned that you could park your rig on nearby streets with no hassle. Rysam is the street that runs right down into the ramp and is wide open for parking (except for in front of driveways of course). I have never seen it parked up other than during very large events. You probably would end up within 200 yards of the ramp

I can see where a single handed launch or retrieve might be a problem with traffic. (I should have given you my cell #).

There used to be some pilings with a plank walk,next to the ramp, to tie up to while you moved the vehicle and trailer ...It seems to have been lost to the slip on the East side.

As far as the ramp goes, I guess I've just gotten too used to it and forgot to mention that little quirk. I am very aware of the drop at the end, but find that I can launch easily at all but the lowest tides.

I'm going to poke around a little more and see what can be done to make trailering a boat to the Harbor a little friendlier for visitors. I count the Mayor, Police Chief and most of the Harbor Board as friends. I'll see what they have to say.

BillB

whalerajm posted 08-26-2003 11:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalerajm  Send Email to whalerajm     
BillB

Thanks!

HarborMaster was friendly and courteous...I really believe he was just being helpful...

Next time out there I may give it a try...thanks for parking tip!

As usual, once you get in the water things are good...I really enjoyed Shinnecock Bay around the inlet...

Biggest hasle is trailering over GW Bridge, Cross Bronx Expressway, Throggs Neck, LIE. etc..I need a trailer I can pullwith a Cessna!

Take care!

timbo posted 08-27-2003 12:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for timbo  Send Email to timbo     
I live fairly close to south hampton and my advice is to put your boat in the great south bay than work your way down the coast westward where the bay really opens up. if you do this you have to pass through moriches and you have to be careful for the sand bars once you clear moriches its smooth sailing. This is where i use my 13' almost everyday since school hasnt started yet and its a really great place sany bottom and warm water i believe someone already warned you but when the wind goes south west which is our predominant wind it gets pretty choppy this summer i was out in 3 - 4 foot chop and its pretty common to see 2 foot white caps fill the water so make sure you have a radio and your equipment isnt going to fail.. have fun and enjoy

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