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JayR posted 09-15-2003 07:10 PM ET (US)
I have bee unable to locate a hull number on my Outrage.
I got this help from C. Bennet at Whaler....
"Where this could be a very early model, you might check the entire interior
of the hull for a black stenciled, number (every hull has this serial
number)...on very early models, the number could be anywhere.
If possible, check on the inner transom area (under the top skin)."
And.... still can't find it. Assuming that it may have been covered over, I would like to wet sand the usual suspect areas in hopes of uncovering it.
Anyone with an Outrage (1970-1971) if you could please provide the EXACT location of your number, it would be greatly appreciated.

dfmcintyre posted 09-15-2003 08:45 PM ET (US)
Jay -
Hoping I can describe where mine is located on my '73 that makes sense, and that the 70 - 72 hull location is the same:
If your sitting on the right side of the Igloo cooler thats normally mounted on brackets ahead of the console, you might want to brace yourself by placing your right foot on the raised horizontal platform area.
With me so far?
Ok, I found my production number (which has no correlation with the true HIN number, found on the stern,from what I remember) on the vertical face right about where your heel would be resting.
If you want, I can shoot a .jpg of it and email you.
Best- Don
JayR posted 09-15-2003 09:39 PM ET (US)
Yes, please send that picture. The better I am informed the more likely I will find it.
Thank you!
HAPPYJIM posted 09-15-2003 10:58 PM ET (US)
Jay
Could you please send me a picture also.
I have a 1973 that's been painted over and want to find my nunber.
Bigshot posted 09-16-2003 09:56 AM ET (US)
I looked at a 1971 a few weeks ago and it was in the transom area. Just a tad port of dead center back by where the engine bolts go.
JayR posted 09-16-2003 11:11 AM ET (US)
Unfortunately, that was the 1st place I looked. No such luck....
I have a raised wooden floor just before the anchor locker. I am going to remove that today. Hopefully it will be there.
Anxious to see that picture.
Previous owner still has a '71 and he believes the one he sold me to be older than his. Mine has a double keel on the stern section running about a 1/3 of the way toward the bow. I have never seen that detail before. His '71 did not have that. It was his opinion that this hull was a prototype.
Man... I wish I could figure this out.
Tom W Clark posted 09-16-2003 11:22 AM ET (US)
Jay,
Your comment it maybe being a prototype got my attention. There was a (were some?) prototype(s) of the original Outrage that were distinctly different than the production versions.
The boat I am thinking of was featured in some very early introductory ads for the Outrage. The most remarkable attribute of this hull was the lack of a "smirk". Does your hull have the trademark smirk?
Bigshot posted 09-16-2003 11:52 AM ET (US)
man....I had a pic of the prototype but I can't find it. trippy looking boat and definately does not resemble the dumptruck from the bow.
JayR posted 09-16-2003 12:44 PM ET (US)
Yes, it does have the smirk bow.
On page 36 of this site, boat # 007 is identical to the hull I just aquired. It is listed as a prototype. Is it not?
I would like to know if #007 has the double keel.
dfmcintyre posted 09-16-2003 02:43 PM ET (US)
Jay -
I'll take an image this afternoon and if the network gods are smiling, will email it tomorrow.
BTW - My HIN number is embossed on the back transom in the normal place.
Don
JayR posted 09-16-2003 08:01 PM ET (US)
Thank you.
Tom W Clark posted 09-18-2003 07:50 PM ET (US)
Jay,
I just looked at Outrage hull #003 and it does NOT have the double keel you describe. The number was stenciled on the inside of the transom in the splashwell under the motor.
#003 is a pretty nice looking rig with a brand new Yamaha V-Max 200 hp HPDI motor. Oughta' be enough...
Tom W Clark posted 09-18-2003 08:01 PM ET (US)
A few more comments on Outrage #003 before I forget:
It appears identical to the Outrage featured in Cetacea Page 36 http://continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/cetaceaPage36.html with the exception of the pilot seat.
#003 has what may be one of the very first Reversible Pilot Seats (RPS) that Whaler produced. The legs are unpainted cast aluminum and the pivot frames (stainless steel bars) are located on the underside of the seat by blocks of plywood screwed to the seat cushion bottom. The seat appears to be original to the boat.
The upholstery is plain white vinyl which may well be original as well. The "pleated" parchment upholstery did not appear until later in the 1970's.
I just inspected this boat personally at Jacobsen's Marine here in Seattle. I have the owner's name and phone number and if I find out anything else that is useful or interesting I will post it here.
Tom W Clark posted 09-18-2003 08:03 PM ET (US)
One more thing: the boat has a small bronze plaque in the floor that says "...built for Gordon A. Prentice"
JayR posted 09-18-2003 08:22 PM ET (US)
#003 all the way in Seattle! Wow!
I have just about given up on the search for the hull number. I have checked everywhere and cannot find it. The transom was worked on and I suspect it was lost during that.
Was the number centered just below the top of the transom? I would like to sand the area in hopes of uncovering it. Can you tell me precisely where to look?
Tom W Clark posted 09-18-2003 08:27 PM ET (US)
Jay,
Wait a sec. I may be wrong. My memory may be failing me at the moment. It might have been on the inside of the transom down below in the drain plug sump area.
I usually carry my digital camera with me in the truck for jobs, but I didn't have it today. I'll try to see if I can go look at it again. It's not far from here.
Tom W Clark posted 09-18-2003 08:49 PM ET (US)
OK, I checked it out again. The stenciled number is directly above the drain tube on the inside of the boat. It is very near the top of the sump area on the same plane that the drain tube passes through and centered in line with the drain tube.
JayR posted 09-18-2003 09:52 PM ET (US)
Tom, thanks for taking the trouble to photograph that. I is greatly appreciated!
If I find something there under the new gelcoat, I'll let you know.
Jinfun posted 09-19-2003 11:56 AM ET (US)
Hi Tom,
Have #00185 stencilled in black exactly where you described. Our boat is almost identical (although not as well kept) as the one on page 36.
Just getting the remnants of Isabel here in Toronto, Canada right now. Hope everyone in the thick of the storm made out OK.

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Author	Topic: Early Outrage Hull number
JayR	posted 09-15-2003 07:10 PM ET (US) I have bee unable to locate a hull number on my Outrage. I got this help from C. Bennet at Whaler.... "Where this could be a very early model, you might check the entire interior of the hull for a black stenciled, number (every hull has this serial number)...on very early models, the number could be anywhere. If possible, check on the inner transom area (under the top skin)." And.... still can't find it. Assuming that it may have been covered over, I would like to wet sand the usual suspect areas in hopes of uncovering it. Anyone with an Outrage (1970-1971) if you could please provide the EXACT location of your number, it would be greatly appreciated.
dfmcintyre	posted 09-15-2003 08:45 PM ET (US) Jay - Hoping I can describe where mine is located on my '73 that makes sense, and that the 70 - 72 hull location is the same: If your sitting on the right side of the Igloo cooler thats normally mounted on brackets ahead of the console, you might want to brace yourself by placing your right foot on the raised horizontal platform area. With me so far? Ok, I found my production number (which has no correlation with the true HIN number, found on the stern,from what I remember) on the vertical face right about where your heel would be resting. If you want, I can shoot a .jpg of it and email you. Best- Don
JayR	posted 09-15-2003 09:39 PM ET (US) Yes, please send that picture. The better I am informed the more likely I will find it. Thank you!
HAPPYJIM	posted 09-15-2003 10:58 PM ET (US) Jay Could you please send me a picture also. I have a 1973 that's been painted over and want to find my nunber.
Bigshot	posted 09-16-2003 09:56 AM ET (US) I looked at a 1971 a few weeks ago and it was in the transom area. Just a tad port of dead center back by where the engine bolts go.
JayR	posted 09-16-2003 11:11 AM ET (US) Unfortunately, that was the 1st place I looked. No such luck.... I have a raised wooden floor just before the anchor locker. I am going to remove that today. Hopefully it will be there. Anxious to see that picture. Previous owner still has a '71 and he believes the one he sold me to be older than his. Mine has a double keel on the stern section running about a 1/3 of the way toward the bow. I have never seen that detail before. His '71 did not have that. It was his opinion that this hull was a prototype. Man... I wish I could figure this out.
Tom W Clark	posted 09-16-2003 11:22 AM ET (US) Jay, Your comment it maybe being a prototype got my attention. There was a (were some?) prototype(s) of the original Outrage that were distinctly different than the production versions. The boat I am thinking of was featured in some very early introductory ads for the Outrage. The most remarkable attribute of this hull was the lack of a "smirk". Does your hull have the trademark smirk?
Bigshot	posted 09-16-2003 11:52 AM ET (US) man....I had a pic of the prototype but I can't find it. trippy looking boat and definately does not resemble the dumptruck from the bow.
JayR	posted 09-16-2003 12:44 PM ET (US) Yes, it does have the smirk bow. On page 36 of this site, boat # 007 is identical to the hull I just aquired. It is listed as a prototype. Is it not? I would like to know if #007 has the double keel.
dfmcintyre	posted 09-16-2003 02:43 PM ET (US) Jay - I'll take an image this afternoon and if the network gods are smiling, will email it tomorrow. BTW - My HIN number is embossed on the back transom in the normal place. Don
JayR	posted 09-16-2003 08:01 PM ET (US) Thank you.
Tom W Clark	posted 09-18-2003 07:50 PM ET (US) Jay, I just looked at Outrage hull #003 and it does NOT have the double keel you describe. The number was stenciled on the inside of the transom in the splashwell under the motor. #003 is a pretty nice looking rig with a brand new Yamaha V-Max 200 hp HPDI motor. Oughta' be enough...
Tom W Clark	posted 09-18-2003 08:01 PM ET (US) A few more comments on Outrage #003 before I forget: It appears identical to the Outrage featured in Cetacea Page 36 http://continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/cetaceaPage36.html with the exception of the pilot seat. #003 has what may be one of the very first Reversible Pilot Seats (RPS) that Whaler produced. The legs are unpainted cast aluminum and the pivot frames (stainless steel bars) are located on the underside of the seat by blocks of plywood screwed to the seat cushion bottom. The seat appears to be original to the boat. The upholstery is plain white vinyl which may well be original as well. The "pleated" parchment upholstery did not appear until later in the 1970's. I just inspected this boat personally at Jacobsen's Marine here in Seattle. I have the owner's name and phone number and if I find out anything else that is useful or interesting I will post it here.
Tom W Clark	posted 09-18-2003 08:03 PM ET (US) One more thing: the boat has a small bronze plaque in the floor that says "...built for Gordon A. Prentice"
JayR	posted 09-18-2003 08:22 PM ET (US) #003 all the way in Seattle! Wow! I have just about given up on the search for the hull number. I have checked everywhere and cannot find it. The transom was worked on and I suspect it was lost during that. Was the number centered just below the top of the transom? I would like to sand the area in hopes of uncovering it. Can you tell me precisely where to look?
Tom W Clark	posted 09-18-2003 08:27 PM ET (US) Jay, Wait a sec. I may be wrong. My memory may be failing me at the moment. It might have been on the inside of the transom down below in the drain plug sump area. I usually carry my digital camera with me in the truck for jobs, but I didn't have it today. I'll try to see if I can go look at it again. It's not far from here.
Tom W Clark	posted 09-18-2003 08:49 PM ET (US) OK, I checked it out again. The stenciled number is directly above the drain tube on the inside of the boat. It is very near the top of the sump area on the same plane that the drain tube passes through and centered in line with the drain tube.
JayR	posted 09-18-2003 09:52 PM ET (US) Tom, thanks for taking the trouble to photograph that. I is greatly appreciated! If I find something there under the new gelcoat, I'll let you know.
Jinfun	posted 09-19-2003 11:56 AM ET (US) Hi Tom, Have #00185 stencilled in black exactly where you described. Our boat is almost identical (although not as well kept) as the one on page 36. Just getting the remnants of Isabel here in Toronto, Canada right now. Hope everyone in the thick of the storm made out OK.