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Author | Topic: 18' Outrage Stern Light - DIY |
MyOutrage |
posted 07-15-2005 10:48 AM ET (US)
Having purchased a 1989 18' Outrage at the beginning of last year, I suddenly found myself in the market for a stern light. For those who don't know, these are no longer available from Boston Whaler and availability is pretty much limited to this web site and eBay at random intervals. Setting a goal of seeing the 2005 July 4th fireworks from the water, I started my journey with what I had hoped would be the easiest and quickest route. After a couple of months of diligently watching eBay and this website however I decided that if I was to make the 7/4/05 objective I needed to change my course of action. Now, given the quality standards set by the Boston Whaler name, I knew that buying a generic stern light and screwing it into the teak gunwales was not an option. Instead, I embarked on a mission to fabricate my own stern light… a stern light that would be up to the Boston Whaler standard. Before proceeding, be advised that fabricating your own stern light the way I did requires a commitment. If you have the opportunity to purchase an OEM one (as I did after I had already purchased all the materials to build my own) I would recommend doing so. The process I’ve outlined below cost as much, if not more than what you can buy the OEM for. I’ll also tell you that I plan to do a little more work on the one you see in the pictures (it is afterall my first attempt… I’ll be bringing it back to the metal fabricator to weld the “learning” holes. Good news… the fireworks were nothing short of GREAT! So, here we go…. BILL OF MATERIALS: NOTE: All SS is 316 grade and purchased at Online Metals except the screws which weren’t available in that grade and were picked up at my local hardware store. Marine grade aluminum would have been preferred (easier to work with) however I was unable to find that aluminum in the above dimensions. Prices are 2004 vintage and do not include shipping TOOLS REQUIRED:
Build the Washer Mount the Light Assembly Complete the Assembly
PHOTOS: |
Buckda |
posted 07-15-2005 10:57 AM ET (US)
Outstanding reproduction! Well done. |
Tom W Clark |
posted 10-07-2005 05:17 PM ET (US)
I've just completed building a stern light using MyOutrage's directions and have a few comments. This was not an economical way to acquire a stern light. It did, however, yield a part that is clearly superior to the original and aesthetically very pleasing. The essence of the problem (of building one of these stern lights from scratch) is figuring out a way to mount the light to the pole. MyOutrage's "washer" is a beautiful and beautifully simple idea in principal. For the record, I spent about $110 on the necessary parts. Everything I used was new, even though I had a used light and some wire, plug, screws, etc. When I started out I hoped to get my hands on some used parts but the light mount was to most important and this did not come through. Once I had the washer roughed out I knew it was going to look too good to NOT put a new light on top of. I used 316 tubing as well but I used a seamless variety with a much thinner side wall. This is more like what Whaler used. I think is it was .028". I bought this from McMaster-Carr and paid perhaps twice what MyOutrage paid for his much thicker welded seam tubing. I used type 304L 1/4" plate for the washer. There was no incompatibility between the two when I had them welded together. I could not find any shop with the capability to punch the hole in the washer. Instead I had a machine shop bore it on a lathe. This alone cost me $20 (cash, under the table) I returned the next day after drilling, tapping and sanding the washer to have it welded onto the polished tubing and they charged me a token $10 to do this. I used a medium sized machine shop that caters to the commercial fishing industry here in Seattle, They are old school and were quite busy. I think I was just lucky that one of the guys wasn't put off by my nuisance job and simply walked back to get on their guys to do it for me. For this I am very appreciative. Their work was flawless too. Nice even bead on the weld which must be held BELOIW the top plane of the washer so the light itself will sit flat. I chose to use #4-40 machine screws instead of MyOutrage's #3s. I simply felt this would be safer and stronger with less chance of breaking a tap. I tapped all three holes without any trouble but I went very slowly. It took me fully one hour to tab the three little holes. I used a gentle hand and lots of lubrication (I used WD-40). I used 16-2 SJOOW cord (wire) that I bought at my local electrical supply house. This had an outer diameter of more than 5/16" unlike the 1/4" of MyOutrage's. I chose not to use a rubber grommet but instead used a plastic two halved clamp bushing that grips the cord where it exits the pole. This part is made by HeyCo which is also the manufacturer of the plastic snap bushing in the light's mount. The bushing necessitated a much larger diameter hole in the pole, 9/16" I think. I am not entirely comfortable with this large size but it is what it needed to be for this cord and bushing. I should point out that the OE lights did not use a rubber grommet either but used these snap bushings. I also drilled the hole for the cord on the port side of the pole, not the stern. Whaler had the wire exit on the port side and is clearly shown in this position in the exploded parts diagrams for the Outrage 18. Also the location for the hole that tops out the locating notch in the bottom of the pole is erroneously described by MyOutrage above as being 1.5" up. The center of the 1/4" hole should be 1/2" up so the total length of the notch is about 5/8" To polish the tubing I made wooden plug equal to the id of the tubing then I bored a hole through its length and installed a machine screw through it. By chucking the screw into a drill motor I was able to slip the tubing snugly over this wooden "plug" and turn the drill on with one hand while gripping the tubing with my other hand in the palm of which was an adhesive backed piece of 320 grit sandpaper. I essentially crated a hand held lathe to spin the tubing and polish its surface. This was a very effective technique but you have to watch the speed or your hand gets hot! |
Tom W Clark |
posted 10-07-2005 07:36 PM ET (US)
here's a not-so-great photo of my effort: |
skeepyjack |
posted 10-07-2005 07:46 PM ET (US)
That's look very nice Tom, you should pround about that. Now I know what is the "ring" and "base" on my stern starboard side for :=) I thought they were there for the flag pole. |
ratherwhalering |
posted 10-08-2005 11:39 AM ET (US)
Wow, those are both excellent reproductions, look much cleaner than OEM, and are no doubt better quality. Sorry about the used light mount, Tom. I can't believe it got thrown out! (I won't mention any names, Brian A.) Great job detailing the fabrication process also. This will make it easier for others faced with the same problem to follow in your footsteps. |
MyOutrage |
posted 10-08-2005 08:49 PM ET (US)
Tom, cudos for taking the design one step better. Couple of comments / questions. 1) You can't say I didn't warn you. This isn't the cheap way out of getting a stern light for your classic whaler. Glad it worked out. |
Tom W Clark |
posted 10-09-2005 05:12 PM ET (US)
MyOutrage, #3 screws would fit the light better, but the #4 are not bad. Of course I used oval head screws which mitigate the imperfect look of a screw head's bevel does not sit perfectly down in the fixture. I considered trying to enlarge the recess for the screw head in the light but decided the #4 looks good enough as they were. It really bothers me that Perko makes that light with such small holes. There is no reason to. It should really be set up for nothing smaller than a #6. I used the thinner wall tubing because that is what I had. I had bought this 6 foot piece of tubing a while back for another light project I never completed. The real reason I bought the thin wall for that was because that is what Whaler used and also because it is lighter weight; no need to add weight to a boat if you don't have to. This tubing was more expensive because it was a higher grade, not because the side wall was thinner. In any given category of tubing the price goes up as the thickness goes up. Ideally I would have found a source for "ornamental tubing" which is already polished and generally thin wall. 15 years ago I did find a source for this type when I made a tall stern light for my Outrage 18. This time I was not able to. McMaster-Carr had the closest thing to it with the type 316, .028" sidewall seamless that I used. Given the amount of sanding and buffing I did to this piece I don't know think it makes much difference. Type 304 (304L in this case) is just fine. The vast majority of the stainless steel hardware on Whalers is 304 (a.k.a. 18-8). Type 316 is a bit better I understand but I'm not sure it really makes any difference. Time will tell. For a project like this I don't think there is any appreciable difference in the workability between the two types of stainless steel. |
Joe Kriz |
posted 10-17-2005 05:38 PM ET (US)
Excellent job and article on this MyOutrage. Since you posted this thread I have done more research on these lights. 1. The earlier base was made out of aluminum 2. The later base was made out of nylon Here is a photo of the aluminum base/mount I also found a place to buy the Snap-In Cord Grips so I purchased a bag of 100. If anyone here needs one of the Snap-In Cord Grips, please send me an email with your address. Please, only if you need one and I will send it FREE. These can be installed without taking the wire out as they are split into two pieces. Put the two pieces around the wire and snap into place... |
MyOutrage |
posted 07-24-2007 08:52 PM ET (US)
So, I went out this weekend and had a great time with my daughter and her boyfriend. They went water skiing and tubing and I completely exhausted them. THE BAD NEWS: I lost my stern light on the trip. This was truely heartbreaking since I spent so much time designing and building the first one(see below) and I think it came out really good. Lesson to all... when tubing off an 18 outrage, don't leave your stern light in place. On one of the turns, the water tube's rope went from the port side of the boat (tied to the cleat), over the engine and over the stern light all the way on the starboard side... when I straightened out, the upper bracket and the lower bracket were torn off the boat and the stern light went in the drink. THE GOOD NEWS: quite a few things.. 1)no one got hurt 2) I didn't loose the upper bracket or lower bracket to the drink. 3)I've already built one of these things so I've got experience. ONE MORE PIECE OF BAD NEWS: The price of Stainless Steel Tubing had gone up 2.6 times over what I paid when I originally built this stern light... translation: next stern light will be made out of aluminum. Oh yeah... one other thing... about 2 weeks ago I saw a stern light on eBay that sold for less than $40... but I didn't need it then. It was still a good day! |
Over the LINE |
posted 07-24-2007 10:42 PM ET (US)
Here is the aluminum and starboard one I made. http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/012247.html It seems to be holding up pretty well. |
Over the LINE |
posted 07-24-2007 10:50 PM ET (US)
http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/012247.html |
MyOutrage |
posted 07-25-2007 08:10 AM ET (US)
Thanks for posting... I forgot about your thread. That just may be the ticket instead of getting a machine shop to punch a hole in aluminum and then weld. |
kamie |
posted 07-25-2007 10:54 AM ET (US)
I forgot as well and I was in the middle of building one simular to MyOutrage's instructions. I think I will change course and build one like Over the LINE has done. |
John McBride |
posted 07-26-2007 03:12 PM ET (US)
On ebay now ladies.. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Boston-Whaler-stern-light-18-25-Outrage_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ50437QQihZ018QQitemZ280135889251QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Boston-Whaler-Stern-Light-Hardware-Vintage-Rare_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ50437QQihZ019QQitemZ290142904207QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BOSTON-WHALER-STERN-LIGHT-NEW_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ50437QQihZ011QQitemZ320140235938QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW |
westcoastwhaler |
posted 07-27-2007 02:50 PM ET (US)
I went through similar pain about two years ago when my stern light went out due to corrision (from the prior owner). I found the perko light, but it would not fit on to the assembly so I used my dremel and modified it a bit. I also re-routed the wiring with new duplex under the starboard gunnel and installed a two prong outlet near the mount. Everything is clean and flush and I have had no problems since. |
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