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Larry posted 11-07-2005 11:31 AM ET (US)   Profile for Larry   Send Email to Larry  
With OMC out of business who is making their lubricants such as Ultra-HPF gearcase lube? With fewer dealers is there a non-OMC subsitute? Do the generic brands meet the same specs?
whalerwanter posted 11-07-2005 06:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalerwanter    
I was in K-mart today. They had tubes of Penzoil 90w for $2.99 each. Is that what you need?
Chuck Tribolet posted 11-07-2005 06:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
The Ultra HPF is still available from your local Johnson and
Evinrude dealers. OMC is gone, Johnson and Evinrude are not.


jimh posted 11-08-2005 04:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Bombardier makes the Evinrude/Johnson brands of lubricants. There are three grades available, and you can get them from most any authorized dealer. I do not think that Bombardier allows non-dealer sales of their Evinrude/Johnson branded products.

There is a complete line of engine care products available from Bombardier, and these include just about all of the products formerly provided by OMC. That includes products like:

--engine oil
--engine grease
--fuel treatments
--fuel cleaners
--fogging oil
--storage oils
--protective sprays
--marine grease

My local dealer has the complete line of these products available, and I am sure they'd be glad to sell them to you if you cannot find a local source. Contact


Larry posted 11-09-2005 10:21 AM ET (US)     Profile for Larry  Send Email to Larry     
Thanks. I've always been confused about the relationship of OMC to Evinrude/Johnson. I even brought a Evinrude/ Johnson manual thinking it was OMC, (the engines and parts like the VRO seem identical). How are their products interchangeble yet one of the companies is gone. Did OMC and Evinrude/Johnson always have interchangeble lubricants? I know the parts are not always interchangeble. How would their lubricants differ from Merc for instance?
Sorry for the confusion.
Chuck Tribolet posted 11-09-2005 10:36 AM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
OMC was the company that made the Johnson and Evinrude brands.
Like GM makes Chevy, Caddy, GMC, Pontiac, etc.

OMC went bankrupt. Bombardier bought the wreckage.
Bombardier then spun off BRP (Bombardier Recreational
Products) which now owns the Johnson and Evinrude brands,
SeaDoo PWCs, an ATV line, and some other stuff.

Clear as mud?


Larry posted 11-10-2005 10:11 AM ET (US)     Profile for Larry  Send Email to Larry     
Yes it is "clear as mud"! How come BRP (?) makes OMC lubrications but not parts or engines-there's a few pieces of the puzzle missing (along with some of my marbles)
Mike Brantley posted 11-10-2005 10:26 AM ET (US)     Profile for Mike Brantley  Send Email to Mike Brantley     
For practical purposes, nowadays just substitute the letters BRP for OMC, and it's the same relationship to Johnson and Evinrude. BRP currently makes Evinrude and Johnson engines, parts, accessories, etc. There may be some confusion because at times in its history OMC put its own OMC brand on some of its products, including engines, as well as using the Evinrude and Johnson brand names.

By the way, I spotted some Evinrude brand XD-25 oil in Wal-Mart recently. It's the only OMC/BRP/Evinrude/Johnson product I've seen there, but perhaps that's a harbinger of things to come.

Chuck Tribolet posted 11-10-2005 10:51 AM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
Yep, BRP does make Evinrude and Johnson parts and engines. I
bought parts for my 97ish Evinrude from a Johnson dealer
just a few weeks ago. There was one he was out of and had
to order. It came in a week or so.

What makes you think BRP DOESN'T make E&J parts and engines?


Dick posted 11-10-2005 12:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
BRP is even doing quite a good job of supplying parts for the older OMC stern drives.
My impression is that they are serious about what they are doing. Coming from a Merc fan, that is quite a statement.
Larry posted 11-10-2005 03:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for Larry  Send Email to Larry     
Many thanks, that all clears it up.
LHG posted 11-13-2005 08:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for LHG    
Evinrude and Johnson 2-stroke oil is made by Ashland Oil Company, in Ashland WI, up on the shores of Lake Superior.

I saw it at Walmart yesterday, XD-25 for $14/gal. They also had Merc Premium for same price.

Larry posted 11-14-2005 10:21 AM ET (US)     Profile for Larry  Send Email to Larry     
Is XD-25 the same as Ultra XP gear lube? It would be nice not have to drive 40 miles for three quarts!
where2 posted 11-14-2005 10:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for where2  Send Email to where2     
No Larry, XD-25 is 2-stroke engine lubricant. The HPF is gearcase lubricating fluid.
Larry posted 11-17-2005 08:23 AM ET (US)     Profile for Larry  Send Email to Larry     

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