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ContinuousWave Whaler Moderated Discussion Areas ContinuousWave: The Whaler GAM or General Area 190 Nantucket and garage
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Author | Topic: 190 Nantucket and garage |
Livingwater |
posted 03-04-2006 06:33 PM ET (US)
I will be picking up my new boat soon. I wanted to keep it in our garage however the opening height of my door is 94". I called the dealer for an overall height measurement while on the trailer and they told me 100". This is not good!!! I'm wondering now how I can fit 10 gallons in a 5 gallon hat? Anybody have idea's...??? Really good idea's Does anyone know for sure what the overall height is? |
Livingwater |
posted 03-04-2006 07:02 PM ET (US)
If the tongue weight isn't too much then maybe I can drop the tongue of the trailer onto a hevi-duty dolly which will angle the boat enough to squeeze her into the garage. |
ConB |
posted 03-04-2006 07:12 PM ET (US)
I would have guessed that a Nantucket would go in an 8' door. Is the door going all the way up. Is the 94" to the door frame or door bottom? Yes, lower the tongue. the console is probaly ahead of the wheels. Get the boat home and try it. Maybe the guy measureing was rounding a little high. Con |
ConB |
posted 03-04-2006 07:18 PM ET (US)
For getting my Outrage 18 in and out of a 7' door I would use a draw bar that has a lot more drop that I would normally tow the boat with. If I was going any distance at all I would unhook and install the normal draw bar. Nice boat and good luck. Con |
Brys13s |
posted 03-04-2006 07:39 PM ET (US)
Mabye remove the wheels and support the axle on low profile dolly like creepers?A pain to do every weekend,but not so bad if it's once or twice a year. |
Kencvit |
posted 03-04-2006 08:17 PM ET (US)
Hooked on my truck I think I measured 103``. add at least another 12`` if you don`t drop the bimini With the hitch right on the ground , I don`t think you`ll gain enough to get in at 94``. I`d like a 24x30 garage with a 9ft door and 10ft ceiling... Livingwater....I`m guessing you would too! If its just a once a year thing for winter storage you could take the tires off and lower the hubs onto tank roller dollies , that would gain 8 or more inches. |
Livingwater |
posted 03-04-2006 08:42 PM ET (US)
That's exactly what I have: 24' x 30' with 10' ceiling however I have a main carrier beam in my garage which is only 94" above the floor. When I get the boat home I will try lowering the tongue with a rolling hydraulic floor jack and see what happens. I will post pictures at that time. |
zpeed7 |
posted 03-04-2006 09:23 PM ET (US)
Release some air from trailer tires? Lower trailer bunks? Guil |
highanddry |
posted 03-04-2006 10:18 PM ET (US)
No way your going to get a Nantucket/Outrage into a eight foot door. I have tried with mine. The 190 is a large 19 footer and substantially larger than a Montauk, new or old, and sits quite tall in the water and on the trailer. Here is what you could do, you could remove the grab rail and the windshiled. They come of pretty easy for seasonal storage. Your going to like your new boat, for a nineteen footer you can really push it hard in rough water, it rides very dry and smooth except in really bad conditions, it feels like a much larger boat when you go against the rough stuff and did I mention, this is a boat that can be pushed really hard and inspires confidence. J |
chopbuster |
posted 03-05-2006 12:34 AM ET (US)
Norm, the head carpenter from the "This Old House" TV series, published a very interesting common sense book awhile back titled, "Measure Twice Cut Once" it's a very good read. |
Livingwater |
posted 03-05-2006 07:40 AM ET (US)
Thanks for all of your reply's. We will find out for sure within a couple of weeks if I can get the garage "shoe horn" to squeeze the 190 into my garage. Sounds like fun... How I spell Stress relief:W.H.A.L.E.R |
Bulldog |
posted 03-05-2006 10:06 AM ET (US)
Livingwater, when you say carrier beam I assume you mean a steel beam across the middle of the garage, holding up the garage ceiling, and possilbly a part of your house? Might be possible to put a glue lam beam flush with ceiling and butt the rafters onto a ledger board. It would be a bit of work, but then you would always be able to just back the boat in and out easily. My twenty foot Revenge needs a space 8' wide, 8.5' high by 27' long to fit, I'm working on a pole building in the near future. Another option which my wife came up with for our shed when the new tractors roll bear was too high to fit in the door was lower the floor, which I thought was stupid at the time, but in the end that's what we did. Just get it in that garage whatever you have to do!................Jack |
Livingwater |
posted 03-05-2006 10:17 AM ET (US)
Short of taking the boat apart (Windshield and grab rail) I will try to find a way to fit the boat into my garage. Will ask my dealer to take another measurement of my boat and trailer. My other concern is that the main support beam in my 24' x 30' garage will end up over the center console! |
ConB |
posted 03-05-2006 10:26 AM ET (US)
Maybe a custom trailer that carrys the boat closer to the gound? Con |
boxers |
posted 03-05-2006 11:10 AM ET (US)
We had this type of challenge many times trying to shoehorn a boat into our garage. In order of simplicity 1) drop the tongue Please let us know what eventually works and good luck. |
Bulldog |
posted 03-05-2006 11:22 AM ET (US)
Another option would be to have the windshield and grab rail modified to hinge down for clearence....Jack |
DBOutrage17 |
posted 03-05-2006 11:47 AM ET (US)
...or think outside the box and get out the jackhammer & shovels and lower the floor... |
Livingwater |
posted 03-06-2006 07:31 AM ET (US)
Is the grab rail located on the console a big deal to remove? Is the hardware glassed over inside the console? |
Plotman |
posted 03-06-2006 08:39 AM ET (US)
Does the trailer have torsion axles or leaf springs. At one time I had 2 22 Outrages, one on a trailer with leaf springs and 15" wheels, the other on one with torsion axles with 13" wheels. The the boat on the trailer with torsion axles was a full foot lower than the other. The way you can tell how much you would gain from a switch to a torsion axle is seeing how much distance there is between the main frame rails and the axle currently. Torsion axles bolt directly to the frame rails. This of course assumes that the keel isn't going to be in the way. David |
Livingwater |
posted 03-06-2006 09:00 AM ET (US)
I haven't seen the trailer yet but it's a Karavan brand that I believe Whaler includes with the 190 series. |
davidmassi |
posted 03-06-2006 03:10 PM ET (US)
I'm looking at a similar problem. When I got the '63 Nauset, the windshield was off it. The trailer was too wide and too long for the garage. I bought a pair of dollies like they use in the boat showroom. I backed the boat up to the garage door, and "basically" pushed the boat off the trailer and on to the dollies. It slid right in then. Now that I'm putting the boat back together, I'm looking at trailers that are more narrow and have a folding tongue. As for the height, I can't find a trailer with a torsion axle in this size. I'm guessing that I will have to lower the bunks way down. At the same time, I think letting the air out of the tires is a good choice. |
Livingwater |
posted 03-11-2006 10:20 AM ET (US)
Got the actual height measurement for the 190 Nantucket while on the trailer...102" This is not good! Even though my ceiling height is 10 feet the door opening is only 94" I need to look into if it's practical to somehow remove the grab rail and windshield from the center console. I don't really want to start taking apart a brand new boat. |
Bulldog |
posted 03-11-2006 10:53 AM ET (US)
Eight inches thats a drag!I think you need to explore having someone make a hinge for your grab railing and somehow mount a windshield off of it , so you can just pull two pins and tip it front to get in the garage. You could take off the factory setup and have a the whole thing fabricated to fit in the factory holes, then you could always just put the windshield back on if you wanted. Letting air out of tires won't get you in and will be a pain all the time. I guess another option would be to lower everything 8" or try and find a lower trailer , but eight inches is a lot.......jack |
AllanR |
posted 03-11-2006 11:03 AM ET (US)
When I bought my then new 1994 Montauk one of the main reasons I chose it was for its ease of fiting inside my garage. I measured everything to the fraction of an inch and told the dealer that unless it would fit I wasn't interested. He changed trailers and adjusted how the boat sits on the trailer and it fits just fine, with about 2 inches to spare when I close the door. That is without a folding tongue. I love the boat as it fits in the garage and goes offshore as well, or just about anywhere I want to go, and it is easy to trailer from place to place. When hurricanes come along here in South Florida, it is well protected inside the garage. I don't know what the dealer told you about your Outrage/Nantucket 190, but I never would have thought that it would have fit in my garage or any normal sized one for that matter, as it comes from the dealer. It is just too high and possibly too long as well. Some manufacturers (I think Edgewater was one) make consoles that flip down, so they don't take up so much height. I wish you luck. I remember a guy I met at a Whaler event at Miami Beach in about 1995, who had a 21 Walkaraound. He bought the boat for a discounted price at the end of that model's life. It was beautiful. But he found he had a problem. He couldn't get it into his garage. So he added an addition, (or bought another house, I can't remember which). He also couldn't tow it with what he had, so he bought a bigger vehicle for that. Then he loaded it up with all kinds of accessories. He even had a dinghy on the back, with a davit. With all of the stuff he put on it the boat was so heavy it would barely plane on the 150 hp he had in the back. He and his wife would bring it down to South Florida from Atlanta and go to the Bahamas with it. He was a diehard Whaler fan. I had to admire him. He loved that boat. And his wife was a saint. But I think that I will just stick with the Montauk. |
Livingwater |
posted 03-25-2006 03:17 PM ET (US)
Update: Will be modifying the grab rail on the center console so that the upper section can easily be removed along with the windshield so that the 190 will fit into the heated garage.**See our new boat** |
Livingwater |
posted 04-11-2006 01:29 PM ET (US)
Well this weekend is going to be interesting. The 190 Nantucket is coming home. Will let everyone know if it fits in my garage. Check back for pictures!!! |
Slippery Eel |
posted 04-12-2006 11:31 AM ET (US)
I had the same sort of issue with my Montauk and the garage door at my shore property. I cutoff the V piece (not sure what you call it) that keeps the trailer tongue off of the ground. I then removed the console rail and re drilled the screw holes through both the rail and the bracket. I use stainless clevis pins to hold the console rail on when in use and simply pull them out and remove the console rail when moving it into the garare. Even with all of those changes it is still a close fit less than a 1/4". Hutch |
BobL |
posted 04-12-2006 08:28 PM ET (US)
Livingwater, You must have a nice deep garage to fit a 19 footer. Hope the height adjustment works so you can fit the Nantucket in. BobL |
aja |
posted 04-13-2006 11:24 AM ET (US)
Am I hearing folks wish they had a folding console like on our '92 outrage 19II? I just pulled mine into our (extra deep) garage last night and she fit like a glove. I think I will go hide now.
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Livingwater |
posted 04-13-2006 12:52 PM ET (US)
Aja: That's not right :( That's like the tropical guy's and gal's telling us how great boating was when we were up to our ears in snow up North. :) |
JayR |
posted 04-13-2006 12:58 PM ET (US)
I have my Ribbed Sided 21 in my garage..... Had to take the tongue off to close the door though. |
cdnturbo |
posted 04-13-2006 03:38 PM ET (US)
My 20' Outrage fits under my garage door, but I too had to remove the tongue to close the door |
M W Siple |
posted 04-13-2006 05:53 PM ET (US)
Anxious to maybe see some pics of console when you get a chance-sure would trailer better folded or removed. Nothing like being able to keep any boat in a heated garage in the off season. This is my first boat-'04 190 Nantucket, bought it new and I'll guarantee there is no one on here that knows less about boating than me! Anytime I see or hear this model talked about I read or listen. Wasn't sure about buying the correct model but after a couple of quick seasons I think I got a good one. Thanks |
Livingwater |
posted 04-13-2006 06:13 PM ET (US)
M W Siple...Congratulations on your new boat. You definitely made the correct choice when you chose Whaler. You not only bought an awesome boat...You've inherited a whole family of great Whaler friends:) |
M W Siple |
posted 04-14-2006 08:35 AM ET (US)
Do appreciate that. |
Royboy |
posted 04-14-2006 08:56 AM ET (US)
So drop the other shoe already; did she fit? Roy |
Livingwater |
posted 04-14-2006 06:55 PM ET (US)
The 190 nantucket is now home and guess what.... It fits!!! |
boatingetc |
posted 04-14-2006 07:31 PM ET (US)
The 190 fits with just about an inch and a half to spare under the center beam in the garage with about two inches behind the engine to the wall and about a foot from the tounge to the garage door, so it fits inside well.
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M W Siple |
posted 04-15-2006 02:04 AM ET (US)
Lucky dog-now I guess I'll have to try. If it will fit her car will have to go! Yeah-rite.Interested in knowing a little more about the custom work to the console.Dealer take care of it? Costly? |
Bulldog |
posted 04-15-2006 07:16 AM ET (US)
Livingwater, Great! Now get the heck out on the water! Enjoy your new boat...............Jack |
boatingetc |
posted 04-15-2006 10:42 AM ET (US)
http://community.webshots.com/user/boatingetc For pictures of the 190, view the link above. |
Livingwater |
posted 04-15-2006 05:12 PM ET (US)
Thanks Boatingetc (Co-owner and son) for taking the pictures and posting the link! The upper section of the grab rail is easily removeable. |
gf |
posted 04-15-2006 11:32 PM ET (US)
Looks like a mighty tight fit through the door! Not sure I would want to do that on a regular basis. I would buy a cover and leave it outside during the season and then put it in the garage for the winter. |
Royboy |
posted 04-15-2006 11:47 PM ET (US)
A little help from your friends... http://community.webshots.com/user/boatingetc Roy |
Livingwater |
posted 04-16-2006 09:55 AM ET (US)
Final note: It's not as tight as it appears in the picture. I have 50.8mm between the wheel fender and door jamb. The boat is light enough to push/roll into the garage by hand. "Happy Easter" |
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