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chopbuster posted 07-31-2008 01:54 PM ET (US)
Houseboats looking very attractive.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=93081828
chopbuster posted 07-31-2008 01:56 PM ET (US)
and...."Boat manufacturer Brunswick has announced plans to close 12 plants".
fishgutz posted 07-31-2008 02:13 PM ET (US)
Interesting. Still selling to the "wealthy". We have to tighten our belts and the rich are still spending.
Here is an article on how Reaganomics has finally worked for one individual.
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/ reaganomics_finally_trickles_down?utm_source=yahoowidget_rss_1
chopbuster posted 07-31-2008 02:27 PM ET (US)
Hold on to your codpiece, it's far from over, the economic forecasts for the upcoming winter holiday season are omimous.
deepwater posted 07-31-2008 03:24 PM ET (US)
i am so glad we have paid off everything but the house,,its the only tax deduction we have except the hot tub,and no credit cards
frisco pete posted 07-31-2008 03:37 PM ET (US)
deepwater,
Hope your house is worth at least what you owe on it, many aren`t.
The countries first actual recession in 1875, didn`t bother Jesse James one bit.
frisco
deepwater posted 07-31-2008 06:30 PM ET (US)
today we would not sell this home for a flat million dollars and that's what its worth to us
seabob4 posted 07-31-2008 08:44 PM ET (US)
THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT MUST FORCE THE CORPORATIONS OF OF THIS COUNTRY TO BRING BACK THE GOOD PAYING MANUFACTURING JOBS BACK HERE TO THE STATES!
Yes, I WAS yelling. But until we get that good, solid, widespread, manufacturing sector, job base back, we are doomed.
1 man becomes a millionaire because 10 men are laid-off. They all need refrigerators. The millionaire buys two, so he can put one out at the Tiki Hut. The laid-off buy 0. Who suffers? The laid-off and the appliance store owner. Someone please tell me how this works, from an economic standpoint?
CES, chime in.
jeffs22outrage posted 07-31-2008 08:55 PM ET (US)
Title says it all about the future of this thread.
davej14 posted 07-31-2008 10:06 PM ET (US)
I checked the liquidator's inventory and there is not one Boston whaler listed......interesting.
highanddry posted 07-31-2008 10:55 PM ET (US)
THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT MUST FORCE THE CORPORATIONS OF OF THIS COUNTRY TO BRING BACK THE GOOD PAYING MANUFACTURING JOBS BACK HERE TO THE STATES!
Yes, Yes, Yes. I am tired of the BS excuses.
If you sell in this country you build in this country and employ in this country or pay an import tariff. I am sick of this Global hoopla.
I bought an airconditioner for my shop and it is made in China, I look high and low and all made in China.
seabob4 posted 07-31-2008 11:08 PM ET (US)
H and D,
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!
jeffs22outrage posted 07-31-2008 11:14 PM ET (US)
You know we could all put an end to this if we just stopped buying and fixing these old boats. Stop being part of problem.
seabob4 posted 07-31-2008 11:16 PM ET (US)
Jeff,
Facetious, correct?
jeffs22outrage posted 08-01-2008 07:42 AM ET (US)
Bob,
Yes. With some truth though. I see people here and other places go on and on about this plant closing, Brunswick, or way doesn't Whaler do that, etc., etc. Honestly turn the mirror and have a look. I recently had it turned on me by someone respected in the industry. Love for and ownership of only a classic or classic brand only goes so far in helping a brand's bottom line and the industry as a whole.
seabob4 posted 08-01-2008 10:32 AM ET (US)
Jeff,
You are correct. BW would benefit very handsomely by having all the members here abandon their pride and joy and running down to the nearest MarineMaxx and buying a new Whaler. Somehow, I don't see that happening.
Speaking of MarineMaxx, front page of the St. Pete Times business section this morning, closing down 7 stores in the Tampa Bay area. This sucks...
HuronBob posted 08-01-2008 12:01 PM ET (US)
We'll know we are in trouble when one of two things happen:
1. They start closing down Walmart Stores
2. All we have left is Walmart Stores
Whalerdog posted 08-01-2008 03:34 PM ET (US)
AC made in the USA and good ones. We all need to support our country and it's businesses.
http://www.promolife.com/energy-saving-appliances/air-conditioners/cat_67.html
chopbuster posted 08-05-2008 03:19 PM ET (US)
Now how is this Whaler related ?
http://www.baltimoresun.com/business/bal-te.bz.boscovs05aug05,0,807258. story
glen e posted 08-05-2008 03:35 PM ET (US)
God, this is such a positive website...you guys should get together and have a pity party....but why dwell on it? what good does it do?
deepwater posted 08-05-2008 03:40 PM ET (US)
i have heard that some smaller companies are returning to the us because it now cheaper (and faster) to make it here than pay the shipping/fuel cost and import fees
firebrand posted 08-05-2008 06:59 PM ET (US)
Where does it guarantee you me or anybody else a job, health care, a pension, and a cheap place to live in either the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence?
The government of the U.S. is not in the business of taking care of any of us. It is in the revenue intake and outflow business.
That's what politics is--who gets what and the what is the money "we the people" pay in taxes.
If you view the U.S. Government any way else, you have clouded your vision and statement with ideology.
If you want to have a government that takes care of you from birth to box, try reading the works of Marx, Mussolini, and Mao. Their respective governments also controlled the local economies and just look how they all turned out...
Think global, shop local, and keep the money local. Spend where it matters to those around you locally.
I personally would like to see a candidate with a PLAN that actually has some real world chance of seriously making changes to our government that help people make lifestyle changes that actually help themselves, their families, and their neighbors.
There is no free lunch. Get up off that platter butt and make a difference.
OK, take the Whaler for a run and then do something.
Plotman posted 08-05-2008 07:03 PM ET (US)
The rise in oil and other commodity prices has increased the cost of shipping a standard container from Shanghai to Long Beach from $3000 4 years ago to over $8000. So stop complaining about high oil prices...

chopbuster posted 08-05-2008 07:19 PM ET (US)
Gas down here in Cape May County NJ has fallen to $3.72pg in the last ten days.
No compaints here.

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chopbuster	posted 07-31-2008 01:54 PM ET (US) Houseboats looking very attractive. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=93081828
chopbuster	posted 07-31-2008 01:56 PM ET (US) and...."Boat manufacturer Brunswick has announced plans to close 12 plants".
fishgutz	posted 07-31-2008 02:13 PM ET (US) Interesting. Still selling to the "wealthy". We have to tighten our belts and the rich are still spending. Here is an article on how Reaganomics has finally worked for one individual. http://www.theonion.com/content/news/ reaganomics_finally_trickles_down?utm_source=yahoowidget_rss_1
chopbuster	posted 07-31-2008 02:27 PM ET (US) Hold on to your codpiece, it's far from over, the economic forecasts for the upcoming winter holiday season are omimous.
deepwater	posted 07-31-2008 03:24 PM ET (US) i am so glad we have paid off everything but the house,,its the only tax deduction we have except the hot tub,and no credit cards
frisco pete	posted 07-31-2008 03:37 PM ET (US) deepwater, Hope your house is worth at least what you owe on it, many aren`t. The countries first actual recession in 1875, didn`t bother Jesse James one bit. frisco
deepwater	posted 07-31-2008 06:30 PM ET (US) today we would not sell this home for a flat million dollars and that's what its worth to us
seabob4	posted 07-31-2008 08:44 PM ET (US) THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT MUST FORCE THE CORPORATIONS OF OF THIS COUNTRY TO BRING BACK THE GOOD PAYING MANUFACTURING JOBS BACK HERE TO THE STATES! Yes, I WAS yelling. But until we get that good, solid, widespread, manufacturing sector, job base back, we are doomed. 1 man becomes a millionaire because 10 men are laid-off. They all need refrigerators. The millionaire buys two, so he can put one out at the Tiki Hut. The laid-off buy 0. Who suffers? The laid-off and the appliance store owner. Someone please tell me how this works, from an economic standpoint? CES, chime in.
jeffs22outrage	posted 07-31-2008 08:55 PM ET (US) Title says it all about the future of this thread.
davej14	posted 07-31-2008 10:06 PM ET (US) I checked the liquidator's inventory and there is not one Boston whaler listed......interesting.
highanddry	posted 07-31-2008 10:55 PM ET (US) THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT MUST FORCE THE CORPORATIONS OF OF THIS COUNTRY TO BRING BACK THE GOOD PAYING MANUFACTURING JOBS BACK HERE TO THE STATES! Yes, Yes, Yes. I am tired of the BS excuses. If you sell in this country you build in this country and employ in this country or pay an import tariff. I am sick of this Global hoopla. I bought an airconditioner for my shop and it is made in China, I look high and low and all made in China.
seabob4	posted 07-31-2008 11:08 PM ET (US) H and D, AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!
jeffs22outrage	posted 07-31-2008 11:14 PM ET (US) You know we could all put an end to this if we just stopped buying and fixing these old boats. Stop being part of problem.
seabob4	posted 07-31-2008 11:16 PM ET (US) Jeff, Facetious, correct?
jeffs22outrage	posted 08-01-2008 07:42 AM ET (US) Bob, Yes. With some truth though. I see people here and other places go on and on about this plant closing, Brunswick, or way doesn't Whaler do that, etc., etc. Honestly turn the mirror and have a look. I recently had it turned on me by someone respected in the industry. Love for and ownership of only a classic or classic brand only goes so far in helping a brand's bottom line and the industry as a whole.
seabob4	posted 08-01-2008 10:32 AM ET (US) Jeff, You are correct. BW would benefit very handsomely by having all the members here abandon their pride and joy and running down to the nearest MarineMaxx and buying a new Whaler. Somehow, I don't see that happening. Speaking of MarineMaxx, front page of the St. Pete Times business section this morning, closing down 7 stores in the Tampa Bay area. This sucks...
HuronBob	posted 08-01-2008 12:01 PM ET (US) We'll know we are in trouble when one of two things happen: 1. They start closing down Walmart Stores 2. All we have left is Walmart Stores
Whalerdog	posted 08-01-2008 03:34 PM ET (US) AC made in the USA and good ones. We all need to support our country and it's businesses. http://www.promolife.com/energy-saving-appliances/air-conditioners/cat_67.html
chopbuster	posted 08-05-2008 03:19 PM ET (US) Now how is this Whaler related ? http://www.baltimoresun.com/business/bal-te.bz.boscovs05aug05,0,807258. story
glen e	posted 08-05-2008 03:35 PM ET (US) God, this is such a positive website...you guys should get together and have a pity party....but why dwell on it? what good does it do?
deepwater	posted 08-05-2008 03:40 PM ET (US) i have heard that some smaller companies are returning to the us because it now cheaper (and faster) to make it here than pay the shipping/fuel cost and import fees
firebrand	posted 08-05-2008 06:59 PM ET (US) Where does it guarantee you me or anybody else a job, health care, a pension, and a cheap place to live in either the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence? The government of the U.S. is not in the business of taking care of any of us. It is in the revenue intake and outflow business. That's what politics is--who gets what and the what is the money "we the people" pay in taxes. If you view the U.S. Government any way else, you have clouded your vision and statement with ideology. If you want to have a government that takes care of you from birth to box, try reading the works of Marx, Mussolini, and Mao. Their respective governments also controlled the local economies and just look how they all turned out... Think global, shop local, and keep the money local. Spend where it matters to those around you locally. I personally would like to see a candidate with a PLAN that actually has some real world chance of seriously making changes to our government that help people make lifestyle changes that actually help themselves, their families, and their neighbors. There is no free lunch. Get up off that platter butt and make a difference. OK, take the Whaler for a run and then do something.
Plotman	posted 08-05-2008 07:03 PM ET (US) The rise in oil and other commodity prices has increased the cost of shipping a standard container from Shanghai to Long Beach from $3000 4 years ago to over $8000. So stop complaining about high oil prices...
chopbuster	posted 08-05-2008 07:19 PM ET (US) Gas down here in Cape May County NJ has fallen to $3.72pg in the last ten days. No compaints here.