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sojahseh posted 08-21-2008 12:25 AM ET (US)   Profile for sojahseh   Send Email to sojahseh  
I think I may be able to pick up a project 21' outrage, smooth sides. the boat needs a lot of attention. I'm wondering if anyone know where to source the rails for this boat. I'm also looking for the rear teak covers, and any info on the fore teak platform.

I've also seen these boats with teak inner panels under the gunwales. Anyone have info on those, like where to buy or drawings etc?

Thanks in advance.

MVC

Sheila posted 08-21-2008 09:06 AM ET (US)     Profile for Sheila  Send Email to Sheila     
First stop: The OEM area in the reference section of this web site.

Another source is Sue at Twin Cities Marine.

Good luck!

RM NY posted 08-21-2008 01:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for RM NY  Send Email to RM NY     
those boats look much better when you remove railings, I have some I removed from one, they were in pretty good condition. If you let me know which ones you want I can see if I still have them
John W posted 08-21-2008 05:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for John W  Send Email to John W     
I also have the original rails from my 1971 Outrage, which should fit your boat, that are for sale. Let me know if interested. jpwilloughby3@hotmail.com.

John

dfmcintyre posted 08-21-2008 08:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for dfmcintyre  Send Email to dfmcintyre     
MVC -

If your referring to the three (two square and one rectangular) covering lids over the storage areas in the stern, they probably are not factory available. Same with the teak floor insert the fits the "V" (actually, it's more like a "U") forward of the console.

However, if you need, I'll photo my teak lids, and give you dimensions if needed. I think the teak / mahogany interior gunnel covering panels were only on the ribbed 21's, mainly to hide the inside of the ribs. The later boats had "MatTack" (sp) applied on the insides. This winter I plan on creating a set for my smooth side, with some interesting modifications.

Regarding the rails....search out in the archives, the job that RM NY did on a 21. The rails he had made are beautiful, and I think better then the OEM ones. Aluminum, larger diameter tubing, all welded, painted (powder coated?), lower to the hull and with them being welded, no rattles or screws to, ahem... screw with.

Best - Don

jimh posted 08-21-2008 08:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
As far as I know there are no OEM wooden parts available for any Boston Whaler boats.

There are no recommended vendors of non-OEM replacement wooden parts.

jimh posted 08-21-2008 08:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Please see:

http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/OEM.html#wood

sojahseh posted 08-22-2008 12:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for sojahseh  Send Email to sojahseh     
I guess I was more wondering if there was anyone around who might have the teak panels that belong in stern of the boat. Originals, that for one reason or another are no longer in use. The teak inners the run the length of the boat are more a dream to source than anything.
flippa posted 08-22-2008 12:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for flippa  Send Email to flippa     
I have a 1978 model. If you are a little handy working with wood, you could make these yourself real easily.

They are made of three evenly sized pieces with a single piece across the bottom on the smaller hatches, and two pieces across the larger one.

Let me know if you need the dimensions. I could take a picture if you want.

L H G posted 08-22-2008 04:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for L H G    
Here is a photo of the ribside "ceiling boards" (as Dick Fisher called them). They are made from 3/8" mahogany, varnished. Looking at the original workmanship, it appears they were ripped from a 1" nominal mahogany stock, using both halves. Originally, BW actually nailed them to the riser blocks, a bad but cheap detail, and I re-did them with screws in the old nail holes, for future removal for varnish re-coating.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v429/lgoltz/Outrage%2021/?action=view& current=7269006-R2-022-9A.jpg

They could be duplicated for a "smoothside" 21, but it might take some creativity. The ribside design created a niche at each rib on the inside, where wood blocking could be glassed into the top mold, and then the riser blocks (about 3/4" x 2") could be screwed into these. There is a riser at every other rib, I believe. The combination of the wood backing glassed in, plus the riser block, still made the ceiling boards flush with the interior side.

On a smoothside, with presumably no blocking glassed into the top shell, the riser blocks would have to be glued in place with 5200, and then the boards laid across those. I would think that the minimum holding thickness of the risers, on the top part of the shell above the stiffening horizontal ridge, would be 3/8" also.

As an alternative to the ceiling boards, the teak edged mahogany shelving used under the gunwales on some of the 19 Outrages might be a better solution. (not to be confused with the 19's that have the shelf edging done in oval cutout fiberglass)

L H G posted 08-22-2008 04:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for L H G    
Here is another photo of the ceiling boards, in a different light:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v429/lgoltz/Outrage%2021/?action=view& current=DSCN1356.jpg

jamesmylesmcp posted 08-22-2008 04:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for jamesmylesmcp  Send Email to jamesmylesmcp     
Here's a picture of ceiling boards with factory rodholders prior to refinishing. http://s212.photobucket.com/albums/cc91/71outrage/?action=view& current=ceilingboards.jpg
jimh posted 08-22-2008 09:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I don't know how much weight they add, or how much work they require to fabricate and install, but those ceiling boards give an OUTRAGE 21 a great classic look. You can't get that kind of classic yacht look from fiberglass and gel coat.
Ritzyrags posted 09-01-2008 06:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
I am presently in possession of an original set of Bow and Stern railing that comes from an outrage 21'.
I have bought them as a set before realizing that the bow railing may have to be modified to fit my 19'. The stern set will be useless to me.For the sake of not breaking the two I may be willing to let go.
You can contact me at my address if interested.
ritzy@oberon.ark.com

Serge.

anthonylisske posted 09-02-2008 03:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for anthonylisske  Send Email to anthonylisske     
I am unsure of your location, but there is a consignement store in Rhode island that has the rear hatches and maybe the bow rail.

I think the name is consignment of wickford and it is located in wickford.

elaelap posted 09-02-2008 05:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
Damn, you do nice work, Larry. You may be a pain in the rear end about Mercury outboard motors, but your classic Whalers are as nice as they get, and you're always there with helpful advice on all sorts of matters (I've not forgotten your unsolicited, friendly, and very helpful advice re props on my second BW, which arrived via email at the same time we were publically hammering one another at this website about some political thing or another). Now if there were only a counter-Mercury-obsession med, I'd probably propose to you ;-)

Tony

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