posted 10-07-2008 01:17 AM ET (US)        

I have not counted the hours at work as there was never enough hours in the day to finish the planned duties.
In any event, my second phase; the deck, will be my next efforts, the hull will be done last in resurfacing and will complete all surfaces being just as factory new and shine.
My girl has been put to bed for now under her private garage out of the weathers and the winds.I am seeing her on a daily basis usually before turning in. It has been a ritual to run my hand on her shiny and renewed surfaces as I walk by, feeling the newness of the structures,her lines and her class.
In any event,in this slow period, I am at study about the history of the hull, design and all around history about the times and the crews making such units available to the world.
I've heard rumors that there is some recorded history available somewhere..
I have also heard that Tom has an interesting cd including infos about certain whaler models.
I am keen on getting the facts about the Outrage 19.4 1975.
I will enjoy getting your leads and comments.
For those who will understand.

posted 10-08-2008 02:17 PM ET (US)            

There has been a tremendous amount of previous discussion on this model. You can spend all day reading through the archives. Try a search like this:

posted 10-08-2008 02:43 PM ET (US)            

And how about some photos?

posted 10-08-2008 03:11 PM ET (US)            

Tom is been a great guy in helping me a couple of times before.
Through him I met another good buddy named Andy.
I did get the parts needed for my refit.
I will be getting his CD set soon and am sure to enjoy it.
My interest here is about anything and everything about those babies.I am actually more concerned about the nuts and bolts aspect of things as opposed to seeing my model as an actual museum piece.
I will try to post a photo of My Girl today as she was when I did adopt her.
I have since then started my refit and she is going through some repair phases..possibly of little interest to look at.

posted 10-08-2008 07:28 PM ET (US)            

Serge, post some pics of your progress when you can.

posted 10-09-2008 04:56 PM ET (US)            

It is with great pleasure that I get the privilege to chat with you guys once again.

The beginning of the story about My Girl is certainly an eventful and complicated one, since the unit survived relatively in good shape, for all these years..
As suggested by Jim,the Outrage was commissioned by the Canadian Government dept of fisheries. The unit came equipped with a black rubrail and tracking.Which has been removed by myself in the refit.
The unit did not come equipped with any seats and the crew had to always stand when on board. Go figure..
It also came without any grab rail to the center console and no bow railings..

The poorly fitted windshield; an obvious replacement, had cracks at every fastening holes.
How would you like to hang on to that one on a dangerous sea?
Having worked on our local coastal waters for a number of years; I can just picture it..
With the Federal politics and the way that they are,my Outrage was assigned to a hatchery program at first for a number of years and afterward was warehoused for a period of five years.
The story goes on to say that It was afterward parked in one of our coastal boatyard for seven,in an attempt to sell.
The steep price tag of a lower twenty K figure attracted a few tire kickers but the record will show that no firm bid were ever accepted.
In our Capital of Victoria I did view the unit and saw that the power was relatively fresh, the trailer a definite plus and the hull relatively unscathed.The cap and floor had the grimy look of a dirty and neglected throne.
I just wonder if..
When at auction,I did manage to outbid a number of furious flurries by one hundred dollars with one second left.
I remember sitting with my family feeling incredulous about my luck..
I hope to have entertained you for a small moment with this story.

Serge.

posted 10-22-2008 12:54 AM ET (US)            

Hope your project is coming along in due course. I have a '73 Outrage (Hull #0021) which was actually designated as a "Whaler 19" when first featured in the 1973 Whaler Brochure.

This was my first boat and first restoration project, and I'm very happy with the results even though it's not a true OEM restoration as you are undertaking.

But let me share a little of the knowledge I gained researching this hull. If you research this site and look at the comparison of the various hull design specs, the 1973-78 Outrage 19 really stacks up well. It has a higher swamp capacity (5000 lbs) than most of the other similar sized Whalers. It drafts only 10 inches of water. And it will plane, at least according to specs, with only 65 HP. At the same time, max HP is 175.

While this is strictly personal opinion, I think the 1973-78 Outrage 19 is a little better proportioned than the 1971-78 Outrage 21. By this I mean the cap and rubrail on the 21's basically meet up with the waterline at the aft portion of the boat. The 19 looks as if it rides a little higher in the water with at least a few inches of freeboard showing under the rubrail all around the boat. In other words, the 19 is not quite as much of a "banana" as the 21. Clearly, however, the 21 is more "Outrageous" in its look as compared to the 19.

Both the 19 and 21 Outrages of this era are known for their lateral stability. I have noticed this in my boat on Lake Michigan - even while trolling for salmon at slow speeds, the boat rides very solid and barely shifts with the movement of crew members on the boat.

The shallow draft of the boat does make it ride rough in chop. It will shake the teeth right out of your head when you run at any speed in the rough stuff. But, when taking it easy, the boat seems very safe and capable in rough seas and gives you no reason to doubt that she'll get you home. And the combination of the smirk, the upward swept bow, the guttered upper deck at the bow and the drainage gutters molded into the top of the gunwales will keep you dry, with very little spray or water spilling into the boat.

The one thing which is almost never mentioned about the classic 19 and 21 Outrages is their abundant storage. The upper bow deck has a very functional anchor locker. (My friends are also apt to lay down cross ways on the upper deck to take a quick nap on occasion).

The bow locker underneath the upper deck has a lot of storage capacity, and probably rivals the storage available on many 19 ft. cuddy cabins. The forward locker in the deck in front of the console is also very handy for storage. And on the '73 and '74 models, there is a lot of storage available in the "porthole" cutouts on the inside of the cap under the gunwales.

The combination of all these factors makes these old Outrage 19's very capable craft. I really don't see much in the newer center consoles (other than perhaps a deeper V hull design for a smoother ride in chop) which compares favorably to the '73-'78 Outrage 19's.

My take on Whaler's abandonment of the "cap" design found on the Outrage 19's and 21's of this era is that it was probably too expensive in terms of both labor and material as compared to the "capless" design found in the newer Outrages. But the cap design is far from just a cosmetic feature - it has a lot of advantages as described above.

By the way, I am really anxious to see pictures of your project when it is finished - and to see LHG's boat which must be in nearly pristine condition.

posted 10-22-2008 12:50 PM ET (US)            

Regards.