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A very Welcomed Incentive.
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| Author | Topic: A very Welcomed Incentive. |
| Ritzyrags |
posted 01-28-2009 12:54 PM ET (US)  
I received this morning a very exciting EMAIL from Boston Whaler company. It feature the Boating Stimulus Sales Event In effect from Jan 1 to Feb 28 2009. This sale will see some very well worth considering rebates in the form of: 08 09 150 Montauk 1,000 750 170 ,, ,, 1,500 1,000 190 ,, ,, 2,000 1,500 180Dauntless 2,500 2,000 200 ,, ,, 3,000 2,500 220/2300 ,, ,, 4,000 3,000 I am pleased and impressed with this new rebate listings for the number of us looking to renew our Whaler acquisition vows. This event sale can be further viewed @ www.whaler.com/boatingstimulus A very exciting bit of news. |
| Tohsgib |
posted 01-28-2009 01:21 PM ET (US)
Do you get that excited when Macy's sends you a 5% off coupon? |
| Newtauk1 |
posted 01-28-2009 01:34 PM ET (US)
anything on the Outrage? |
| Ritzyrags |
posted 01-28-2009 01:39 PM ET (US)
Yes, In these times and ages; I do get enthused about positive developments. As far as the Outrage possible rebates, One will have to go to the Website to check it out. Yours. |
| pglein |
posted 01-28-2009 06:56 PM ET (US)
Yeah, I'm gonna go run out and buy a $25,000 boat becuase they're offering $1,500 off!!!! LOL. I can't really ever see myself buying a brand new boat, no matter how cheap it is. A used one will always be cheaper and better equipped. |
| Jefecinco |
posted 01-28-2009 07:17 PM ET (US)
The rebates along with the best deal you can make with your local Whaler dealer could result in close to 33% off Whaler's list prices. Unfortunately you can expect about the same sort of value to apply to the used and loved Whaler you'd perhaps like to trade in on a new one. I hope Whaler will sell a lot of boats by offering a generous rebate to buyers. I wonder what a left over 2007 model year Whaler will now fetch. Butch |
| Ritzyrags |
posted 01-28-2009 07:24 PM ET (US)
This is a fantastic afterthought Butch.. I had not expected that some of these 07 unit may had been still available... |
| pglein |
posted 01-28-2009 07:26 PM ET (US)
I've never understood the point of advertising rebates on a product that has a negotiable price anyway. If you try to ask for a rebate after negotiating a killer price, they always point to the fine print where it says it applies only to MSRP sales. The bottom line is they have a minimum price they can afford to sell it for, and it doesn't matter if you're using a dealer incentive, factory rebate, or just your own aggressive negotiation tactics, that number isn't going to change. |
| Ritzyrags |
posted 01-28-2009 07:56 PM ET (US)
Looks like it is a fine start to start your negotiations from. I have heard of some cultures from which negotiating for "said item" would go as far in some cases as involving marriage and family ties.. The ART of negotiating would have no holds barred and time spent on round about chats with synchronized returns to the object debated may have taken weeks and months to finalize an agreement. I have been impressed with the service rendered when having shown the cash in hand. If one good dealer seems inclined to see that kind of money walking away..Well I guess that there is always another one that will be more then happy to count your Dollars after your happy departure. |
| SC Joe |
posted 01-28-2009 08:01 PM ET (US)
Wasn't this the same one they sent a few weeks ago? |
| Ritzyrags |
posted 01-28-2009 08:05 PM ET (US)
It is very possible that it could be the same one.. I've just got mine this morning.. Check on the web site listed. |
| Yiddil |
posted 01-28-2009 08:11 PM ET (US)
I just got my second email stimulas from BW:) I am no using mine so i shipped the 1st won off to someone who was getting ready to buy a boat...not even sure it was only good for my email or anyone...but I wasn't using it and Im sure they will find out. It's always nice to save someone a tiddy some of money:) Cost nothing to be helpful and nice. |
| Island Marine |
posted 01-28-2009 08:16 PM ET (US)
I happened to be online answering a question about the AC Boat Show when I saw this post. pglein - As a Whaler dealer I have to disagree with your position. Rebates do not apply only to MSRP sales and there is no fine print. The rebate applies and is taken off of the sale price agreed to by the customer & dealer. Yes, there is a bottom line we need to be at or above when we sell a boat or we would not be in business very long. In some cases rebates allow us to sell you a boat below our normal bottom line. You get a great deal and we add you to our family of happy customers. I am always thankful when Whaler announces a rebate program. On the Montauk and Dauntless models listed under the rebate program the dollar amount of the rebate can add an additional 5% off of your sale price. To me this a substantial savings. We will have great deals on all models (and fantastic deals on 2007 & 2008 models) at the show, with or without a rebate. This is not a sales pitch and I can honestly state that there has never been a better time to purchase a Whaler. I look forward to see everyone at the show! |
| Jefecinco |
posted 01-29-2009 10:00 AM ET (US)
Pglein, I'm surprised you are under the impression that rebates apply only to MSRP. Each time I've received a rebate on an item it was in addition to the best price I've been able to negotiate. When rebates are offered they probably influence the seller's position during negotiation but in the current market I believe dealers are less concerned about how much they clear on each sale than that they clear something on each sale. Car dealers are having a difficult time now but boat and RV dealers are on the sharp edge of going out of business. Buy a new Whaler and help our dealers remain amongst the survivors. Butch |
| Tohsgib |
posted 01-29-2009 11:51 AM ET (US)
Rebates are a scam just like "boat show specials" Funny how the dealer called me for 2 weeks dropping the price by $500 a call AFTER the NY boat show. Believe what you want guys but it is ALWAYS a good time to buy if you find the right boat at the right dealer with the right motives. |
| pglein |
posted 01-29-2009 01:18 PM ET (US)
Interesting stuff. I've always thought rebates were just an advertising gimmick. Ultimately, I'm just not the kind of person to ever buy a large ticket item brand new; car, boat, whatever. I prefer to let someone else take the substantial depreciation hit and get a nearly-new item for 25-50% less. I don't leverage depreciating assets, so $30-50,000 price tags on a new boat is just too much cash to lay out. Especially on something that can only be liquidated for $15-20,000 a few years down the road. The key to Boston Whaler's early success was the quality of the boat they built. Unfortunately, it could turn out to be their downfall in a declining economy. The abundance of used boats that are still in excellent condition makes selling a brand new one extremely difficult. But I won't lie, a brand new Whaler would be a lot more tempting if it possessed the same lines of the "classic", and offered something desirable in terms of new technology (like electronic turbo diesel inboard power mated to an azimuthing drive). Personally, I don't think the car and boat dealers (and manufacturers) get it. We aren't looking for 5-10% off. We're looking for 40-50% off. In an industry where prices have gone up exponentially over the last 20 years, that is what it is going to take to entice people like myself to even take you seriously... to even get us to walk on the lot. Otherwise, we'll just keep driving the cars we have that run perfectly well, and we'll just hunt for deals on used boats owned by people who need to liquidate quickly to service their growing debt. |
| Ritzyrags |
posted 01-29-2009 01:28 PM ET (US)
The idea here as I can see it will involve on one side a merchant in need of moving his wares and on the other hand an excited and motivated buyer looking for his dream Whaler.. The "incentives" from the good merchant will be designed to see the needy public showing up and buying from them. Now all other aspects of exchange of goods for money will be defined on a one on one level. An exciting prospect for the serious buyer. If intended to be kicking tires and window shopping; The prospect of rebates and incentives may not be as exciting to a neutral onlooker. But actually was intended to be an opening in dialogue to transaction for the serious and motivated parties. Just like the old classic western song. If you got the Money Honey, I've got the Time.. |
| Tohsgib |
posted 01-29-2009 01:28 PM ET (US)
Many like myself agree with you but many out there HAVE to buy new and have to upgrade every couple of years because their neighbors or coworkers will think they are poor...which of course makes them poor. My cousin was looking for a new SUV because he just had his bizillenth baby. He wanted an Escalade. I showed him one that had 3k miles on it for almost $30k off the sticker. He said his wife(who is a stay at home mother) would NEVER drive a used car. I damn near fell over. My wife who works her butt off everyday would kill for a $65k car...no matter how many owners it had. How can somebody who does not bring home the bacon demand which brand to bring home? Some people are just plain stupid or suckers in some cases. |
| pglein |
posted 01-29-2009 01:36 PM ET (US)
I want to elaborate on what I'm talking about. If I'm a person who has $25,000 to plop down on a new boat, I've probably got well over $25,000 in cash or cash equivalents sitting around. Hopefully a lot more, given that a boat is an unnecessary recreational item. No one should be putting that kind of cash down on a new boat unless their cash resevers are upwards of, say, $40,000. Otherwise, you're being incredibly stupid with your finances. So, if I'm that guy, is $2,500 really a big deal? Does that really entice me to buy right now? So I have an extra $2,500 in the bank after it's done...big whoop. I probably make that in a week. I'm gonna drop twice that on electronics in the first month of ownership. Sure, it's nice to have. But it's not enough to convince me to pull the money out of my investments at what is likely the bottom of the market. Make it $10,000 and I'll think about it. And what about the guy who's financing? $25,000 on 7%, 15 year loan is $224.70/mo. Drop that to $22,500, and the payment only drops to $202.23. An extra $22 a month is supposed to entice me? I'm obviously not that sophisticated if I'm financing a depreciating asset, so I'm more likely to jump at the opportuinty to put it on a 20 year term and pay $193/mo. for the full price than to push for that $2,500 just because my payment would be $9 cheaper. My point is that, to just about any kind of buyer who is on the fence, 10% is not enough to push them over in this economy. It's a great bonus for someone who is going to buy anyway, but those aren't the people you're trageting. |
| Ritzyrags |
posted 01-29-2009 01:43 PM ET (US)
Wow, I think that it is time for us to idle the engine down a bit and looking at the sun briefly, Get that old Compass out of it's case..And start taking some careful measurements of where we are really standing in our life presently. I think that the time to be intolerant, spoiled and dogmatic may have passed. It is a time to regroup, to count our victories, however small they may be and to curb those unreasonable and unproductive elements that are really leading us to NOWHERE. Let's have fun living the GOOD LIFE. Well.. and Hey! If shopping for a new Whaler is going to make your Day.. so be it! Enjoy. |
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