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dmeswi posted 02-20-2009 08:44 PM ET (US)
I have a 2006 220 Dauntless. I went by the local Whaler dealer yesterday and looked at a few new boats. I noticed the Whaler non-skid surface on the new boats was different. It didn't have the diamond-shape checkering I am familiar with, but more of an indented basket weave kind of appearance. In my opinion it looked cheap and had a less appealing texture.
Has anyone else noticed this? What was the reason for such a change?
Dennis
Jeff posted 02-20-2009 09:00 PM ET (US)
I heard [the non-skid pattern used by Boston Whaler] was changed because people found it hard to clean because the crevasses were too deep. Also, people found it to be abrasive on bare feet.
jimh posted 02-20-2009 10:43 PM ET (US)
I don't think the non-skid pattern being used by Boston Whaler for their decks was just changed. I think Boston Whaler changed it a few years ago. As Jeff mentions, the pattern that was used c.2006 had very sharp little pyramids with crevasses that were prone to collecting dirt.
BlueMax posted 02-20-2009 11:17 PM ET (US)
I have the deep diamond pattern on my 2007 170 Montauk purchased in June 2007 - maybe the pattern was changed sometime after that.
JMARTIN posted 02-20-2009 11:21 PM ET (US)
The reason for the change?
Looks like the complainers win again.

We did not tell Boston Whaler that we liked their non-skid. It works well in a wet environment. If it did not have, [very sharp little pyramids with crevasses that were prone to collecting dirt.], it would not work in a wet environment.
Bitch to clean, but there are BW owners who love a pristine boat.
John

SC Joe posted 02-20-2009 11:39 PM ET (US)
The new stuff isn't bad...it does well for it's intended purpose.
It doesn't hold dirt that bad, either.
Ritzyrags posted 02-21-2009 01:08 AM ET (US)
This topic has my attention now;
As I am about to redo my dated non skid sections.
I am at a loss as to ever make it like factory again...
The options are slim and the roll down patterned mat has a 50/50 chance of making it right again on all surfaces.
I am of course redoing the whole deck.
Andrewdavis34 posted 02-21-2009 01:29 AM ET (US)
Call
Gibco Flex Mold the part number for the older non-skid pattern is
GFBW332 Smaller diamond

Newer style for 2007 and later larger diamond is
GF DSR 103.
For the really small texture the numner is GFBW327N
Gibco sent me small samples that are fine for patching small screw hole etc.
The gel coat that whaler uses in made by a company named Spectrum Gel Coat.
Hope this helps.
Ritzyrags posted 02-21-2009 02:44 AM ET (US)
Andrew,
Many thanks for your very good response.
I am in your debt.
Serge.
jjandpop posted 02-21-2009 09:09 AM ET (US)
I have removed all the factory inprinted non-skid on my 1987 Outrage because there were just too many holes drilled in the deck. After removing the deteriorated plywood and repairing several cracks in the edge where screws were pulled down too much where the plywood in the edge had absorbed too much water and just disappeared . I decided on a process that I used on 2 large sailboats. Lay down a fine sand over a 2 part urethane paint and then cover with additional paint to soften the sharpness. It lasted several years, was easy to clean and proved to be a good nonskid.
Jim
Ritzyrags posted 02-22-2009 03:55 AM ET (US)
Yes Jim,
Well of course,I have considered this option already.
The thing is;
I will be sanding down every square inch and cosmetically resurface every imperfections.
Afterward all medallions are to be filled and the nonskid assessed.
The surfaces are 98% still intact but the repairs to the rest will be the hurdle here.
So the options will be to sand all non skid or to repair the fractured parts.
And some have shown spider cracks..
It is good to hear of all of your victories in restoration of such areas.
Thank You for your inputs.
jjandpop posted 02-22-2009 08:49 AM ET (US)
I found that the sanding down of the non-skid surfaces is made a lot easier if you first apply a high build epoxy primer which will fill most all the voids and reduce the amount of sanding. I only removed the non-skid on the removable deck area. The rest of the interior deck surfaces are in reasonably good shape.
Jim
RM NY posted 02-22-2009 12:16 PM ET (US)
whaler has been using both, some of the larger whalers had a different skid then the smaller ones, I suspect that they are now just going to use the one based on what you said because I have not seen a smaller one yet.
I was on a 32' outrage that was a few years older over the summer and it definitly had the smaller pattern, I should know because I had to repair it and I did not have the pattern in stock.

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Author	Topic: Boston Whaler Changes Non-Skid Pattern
dmeswi	posted 02-20-2009 08:44 PM ET (US) I have a 2006 220 Dauntless. I went by the local Whaler dealer yesterday and looked at a few new boats. I noticed the Whaler non-skid surface on the new boats was different. It didn't have the diamond-shape checkering I am familiar with, but more of an indented basket weave kind of appearance. In my opinion it looked cheap and had a less appealing texture. Has anyone else noticed this? What was the reason for such a change? Dennis
Jeff	posted 02-20-2009 09:00 PM ET (US) I heard [the non-skid pattern used by Boston Whaler] was changed because people found it hard to clean because the crevasses were too deep. Also, people found it to be abrasive on bare feet.
jimh	posted 02-20-2009 10:43 PM ET (US) I don't think the non-skid pattern being used by Boston Whaler for their decks was just changed. I think Boston Whaler changed it a few years ago. As Jeff mentions, the pattern that was used c.2006 had very sharp little pyramids with crevasses that were prone to collecting dirt.
BlueMax	posted 02-20-2009 11:17 PM ET (US) I have the deep diamond pattern on my 2007 170 Montauk purchased in June 2007 - maybe the pattern was changed sometime after that.
JMARTIN	posted 02-20-2009 11:21 PM ET (US) The reason for the change? Looks like the complainers win again. We did not tell Boston Whaler that we liked their non-skid. It works well in a wet environment. If it did not have, [very sharp little pyramids with crevasses that were prone to collecting dirt.], it would not work in a wet environment. Bitch to clean, but there are BW owners who love a pristine boat. John
SC Joe	posted 02-20-2009 11:39 PM ET (US) The new stuff isn't bad...it does well for it's intended purpose. It doesn't hold dirt that bad, either.
Ritzyrags	posted 02-21-2009 01:08 AM ET (US) This topic has my attention now; As I am about to redo my dated non skid sections. I am at a loss as to ever make it like factory again... The options are slim and the roll down patterned mat has a 50/50 chance of making it right again on all surfaces. I am of course redoing the whole deck.
Andrewdavis34	posted 02-21-2009 01:29 AM ET (US) Call Gibco Flex Mold the part number for the older non-skid pattern is GFBW332 Smaller diamond Newer style for 2007 and later larger diamond is GF DSR 103. For the really small texture the numner is GFBW327N Gibco sent me small samples that are fine for patching small screw hole etc. The gel coat that whaler uses in made by a company named Spectrum Gel Coat. Hope this helps.
Ritzyrags	posted 02-21-2009 02:44 AM ET (US) Andrew, Many thanks for your very good response. I am in your debt. Serge.
jjandpop	posted 02-21-2009 09:09 AM ET (US) I have removed all the factory inprinted non-skid on my 1987 Outrage because there were just too many holes drilled in the deck. After removing the deteriorated plywood and repairing several cracks in the edge where screws were pulled down too much where the plywood in the edge had absorbed too much water and just disappeared . I decided on a process that I used on 2 large sailboats. Lay down a fine sand over a 2 part urethane paint and then cover with additional paint to soften the sharpness. It lasted several years, was easy to clean and proved to be a good nonskid. Jim
Ritzyrags	posted 02-22-2009 03:55 AM ET (US) Yes Jim, Well of course,I have considered this option already. The thing is; I will be sanding down every square inch and cosmetically resurface every imperfections. Afterward all medallions are to be filled and the nonskid assessed. The surfaces are 98% still intact but the repairs to the rest will be the hurdle here. So the options will be to sand all non skid or to repair the fractured parts. And some have shown spider cracks.. It is good to hear of all of your victories in restoration of such areas. Thank You for your inputs.
jjandpop	posted 02-22-2009 08:49 AM ET (US) I found that the sanding down of the non-skid surfaces is made a lot easier if you first apply a high build epoxy primer which will fill most all the voids and reduce the amount of sanding. I only removed the non-skid on the removable deck area. The rest of the interior deck surfaces are in reasonably good shape. Jim
RM NY	posted 02-22-2009 12:16 PM ET (US) whaler has been using both, some of the larger whalers had a different skid then the smaller ones, I suspect that they are now just going to use the one based on what you said because I have not seen a smaller one yet. I was on a 32' outrage that was a few years older over the summer and it definitly had the smaller pattern, I should know because I had to repair it and I did not have the pattern in stock.