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jb4146 posted 04-14-2009 11:26 PM ET (US)
Anybody else notice the 13 Sport that the Crab fishing boat Wizard launched for some underhull maintenance during tonight's season premiere of "Deadliest Catch?"
Yiddil posted 04-15-2009 12:06 AM ET (US)
Yep saw it:0 Was suprized they had put that 13 in the sea for a dive:) I had a big grin on my face when everyone in the room yelled "Whaler" LOL
Jeff posted 04-15-2009 12:11 AM ET (US)
The same boat as here?
www.continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/cetaceaPage82.HTML
Jeff posted 04-15-2009 12:14 AM ET (US)
http://continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/cetaceaPage82.html
Tohsgib posted 04-15-2009 12:12 PM ET (US)
No it was a smirked 78-? model with what looked to be a Mariner on the stern, hard to see.
jimh posted 04-15-2009 02:11 PM ET (US)
The skiff boat from the F/V WIZARD was a Boston Whaler 13-footer, "Little WIZ."
high sierra posted 04-15-2009 02:36 PM ET (US)
Yes and the Captain got smacked on the head, bad, by the crab boat when it rolled caused by a swell. high sierra
boatdryver posted 04-15-2009 04:28 PM ET (US)
I saw this episode too and marvelled at the quality (sharpness) of most of the HD footage, at least the outdoor stuff shot with adequate light.
I wonder how many HD video cameras got soaked and ruined with salt water. I heard them say the sent 5 hand held units out with each boat, plus 5 or so others permanently mounted in the rigging and weatherproofed to the extent possible.
I believe a new producer is doing the current series with a bigger budget, more people and higher standards. Does anyone know how the boat crew is compensated to put up with the hassle of having cameras in the face all the time?
Or does one company own all these 5 boats and the hired captains have to agree to it?
Just curious. I love the shots of the boats in storm seas. It looks so risky I'm just as glad I'm not a fan of King Crab.
JimL
sapple posted 04-15-2009 05:43 PM ET (US)
Love that show but missed that particular one. Speaking of the filming logistics, last season, one episode was devoted to the that topic. Really interesting. I can't imagine what those guys go through. When I see the scenes with rough seas, I imagine what it would be like for me to be out there in my Montauk. At that point, my respect for them goes up a few more notches.
Tohsgib posted 04-16-2009 11:06 AM ET (US)
My sister makes documentaries and you would be amazed at what little $$ thoe cameramen make for the risk they are taking(maybe $500/day). The cameras they ruin are like $3-5k a piece.
pglein posted 04-16-2009 01:08 PM ET (US)
Thom Beers is still the producer of Deadliest Catch. As the show has been growing in popularity, their budget has increased, which shouldn't be a surprise to anyone familiar with television.
13' Boston Whalers are clearly the tender of choice for commercial fishing boats over about 50-60'. All one needs to do is walk the docks at Fisherman's Terminal in Ballard to see this. Virtually every one will have a pretty ragged, beat-up Whaler sitting on the deck or wheelhouse.
pglein posted 04-16-2009 01:09 PM ET (US)
Oh, and $500 a day is damn good money if you ask me. I'd go do that job for free, it would be so much fun.
gnr posted 04-16-2009 01:19 PM ET (US)
I would too.
Not the crabbing part, I don't think I could keep up, but I'd love to go on a trip with those boys.
Tohsgib posted 04-16-2009 01:50 PM ET (US)
Considering the deckhands make $30-60k per king crab trip, I don't think $5-8k is a lot of money for the risk.
highseasdrifter posted 04-17-2009 11:32 PM ET (US)
A former crewmate of mine worked on the Early Dawn (prior season). He said the deck crew only got free raingear. Also said the cameramen were always in the way.
Dannis posted 04-18-2009 12:53 PM ET (US)

Clip here for those who missed it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAKoXfnYiUo
Dannis
Draftmanswife posted 04-18-2009 10:19 PM ET (US)
Just my .02; I think it was a 15'.
jb4146 posted 04-19-2009 12:11 AM ET (US)
I don't think so draftsmanswife, the transom did not have the unique 15 shape. It appeared basically flat.
R T M posted 04-19-2009 07:01 AM ET (US)
I liked this series better when it was more of a documentary type show. When the show became scripted, it also became corney, and as a result I don`t watch it any more.
jimh posted 04-19-2009 09:58 AM ET (US)
Dannis--Thanks for the link to the replay of the segment showing the Boston Whaler boat. Yes, it definitely looks like a 13-footer.
shipskip posted 04-19-2009 07:56 PM ET (US)
Did you notice in the Youtube clip the 'scripted' replayed shots of the diver over-the-side backwards entry into the water off the Whaler? 1st time off the port side bow, 2nd time off the front of the bow, 3rd time off the port side bow again. Oh well, that's Hollywood.
Mind you, I have the greatest respect for these men and their chosen profession. There is a lot of Alaska fishing/crabbing money (the reward for those who succeed)in my community. My neighbor Captain Sig ("Northwestern") lives 2 blocks away.
firebrand posted 04-20-2009 08:56 AM ET (US)
Folks--
As a motion picture camera operator by trade, I can tell you that the day rates those camera operators are getting is not a horrible rate for documentary television.
However, given the environment and situational dangers (constantly!) they are not getting paid enough!
My work is primarily feature films and episodic television with the gaps filled by commercials and industrial programs.
As a Steadicam/Camera operator, I negotiate my rate on a case by case basis with different ranges of pay for different projects and budget ranges.
Basically, these guys have to WANT to work in that environment and put up with those conditions, wind, weather, crew, and captain, and still do their jobs.
I work outdoors year round, day and night in all forms of weather found in New York and New England. We are also expected to dress for the conditions and keep working regardless of the weather conditions. We typically only stop for thunderstorms. Oh the stories I could tell from last summer's filming of the Bruce Willis thriller "Surrogates."
Those little HD cameras are perfect for this type of production because they are considered "throwaways" given their cost and size. Just a few years ago, HD cameras were well over $100K each and required lots of support gear and technicians. Now they are plug and play and then throw away.
The show is better looking but scripting, well, that just means the Captains have gone Hollywood, too! Their boats, their rules!

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Author	Topic: Deadliest Catch Whaler
jb4146	posted 04-14-2009 11:26 PM ET (US) Anybody else notice the 13 Sport that the Crab fishing boat Wizard launched for some underhull maintenance during tonight's season premiere of "Deadliest Catch?"
Yiddil	posted 04-15-2009 12:06 AM ET (US) Yep saw it:0 Was suprized they had put that 13 in the sea for a dive:) I had a big grin on my face when everyone in the room yelled "Whaler" LOL
Jeff	posted 04-15-2009 12:11 AM ET (US) The same boat as here? www.continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/cetaceaPage82.HTML
Jeff	posted 04-15-2009 12:14 AM ET (US) http://continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/cetaceaPage82.html
Tohsgib	posted 04-15-2009 12:12 PM ET (US) No it was a smirked 78-? model with what looked to be a Mariner on the stern, hard to see.
jimh	posted 04-15-2009 02:11 PM ET (US) The skiff boat from the F/V WIZARD was a Boston Whaler 13-footer, "Little WIZ."
high sierra	posted 04-15-2009 02:36 PM ET (US) Yes and the Captain got smacked on the head, bad, by the crab boat when it rolled caused by a swell. high sierra
boatdryver	posted 04-15-2009 04:28 PM ET (US) I saw this episode too and marvelled at the quality (sharpness) of most of the HD footage, at least the outdoor stuff shot with adequate light. I wonder how many HD video cameras got soaked and ruined with salt water. I heard them say the sent 5 hand held units out with each boat, plus 5 or so others permanently mounted in the rigging and weatherproofed to the extent possible. I believe a new producer is doing the current series with a bigger budget, more people and higher standards. Does anyone know how the boat crew is compensated to put up with the hassle of having cameras in the face all the time? Or does one company own all these 5 boats and the hired captains have to agree to it? Just curious. I love the shots of the boats in storm seas. It looks so risky I'm just as glad I'm not a fan of King Crab. JimL
sapple	posted 04-15-2009 05:43 PM ET (US) Love that show but missed that particular one. Speaking of the filming logistics, last season, one episode was devoted to the that topic. Really interesting. I can't imagine what those guys go through. When I see the scenes with rough seas, I imagine what it would be like for me to be out there in my Montauk. At that point, my respect for them goes up a few more notches.
Tohsgib	posted 04-16-2009 11:06 AM ET (US) My sister makes documentaries and you would be amazed at what little $$ thoe cameramen make for the risk they are taking(maybe $500/day). The cameras they ruin are like $3-5k a piece.
pglein	posted 04-16-2009 01:08 PM ET (US) Thom Beers is still the producer of Deadliest Catch. As the show has been growing in popularity, their budget has increased, which shouldn't be a surprise to anyone familiar with television. 13' Boston Whalers are clearly the tender of choice for commercial fishing boats over about 50-60'. All one needs to do is walk the docks at Fisherman's Terminal in Ballard to see this. Virtually every one will have a pretty ragged, beat-up Whaler sitting on the deck or wheelhouse.
pglein	posted 04-16-2009 01:09 PM ET (US) Oh, and $500 a day is damn good money if you ask me. I'd go do that job for free, it would be so much fun.
gnr	posted 04-16-2009 01:19 PM ET (US) I would too. Not the crabbing part, I don't think I could keep up, but I'd love to go on a trip with those boys.
Tohsgib	posted 04-16-2009 01:50 PM ET (US) Considering the deckhands make $30-60k per king crab trip, I don't think $5-8k is a lot of money for the risk.
highseasdrifter	posted 04-17-2009 11:32 PM ET (US) A former crewmate of mine worked on the Early Dawn (prior season). He said the deck crew only got free raingear. Also said the cameramen were always in the way.
Dannis	posted 04-18-2009 12:53 PM ET (US) Clip here for those who missed it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAKoXfnYiUo Dannis
Draftmanswife	posted 04-18-2009 10:19 PM ET (US) Just my .02; I think it was a 15'.
jb4146	posted 04-19-2009 12:11 AM ET (US) I don't think so draftsmanswife, the transom did not have the unique 15 shape. It appeared basically flat.
R T M	posted 04-19-2009 07:01 AM ET (US) I liked this series better when it was more of a documentary type show. When the show became scripted, it also became corney, and as a result I don`t watch it any more.
jimh	posted 04-19-2009 09:58 AM ET (US) Dannis--Thanks for the link to the replay of the segment showing the Boston Whaler boat. Yes, it definitely looks like a 13-footer.
shipskip	posted 04-19-2009 07:56 PM ET (US) Did you notice in the Youtube clip the 'scripted' replayed shots of the diver over-the-side backwards entry into the water off the Whaler? 1st time off the port side bow, 2nd time off the front of the bow, 3rd time off the port side bow again. Oh well, that's Hollywood. Mind you, I have the greatest respect for these men and their chosen profession. There is a lot of Alaska fishing/crabbing money (the reward for those who succeed)in my community. My neighbor Captain Sig ("Northwestern") lives 2 blocks away.
firebrand	posted 04-20-2009 08:56 AM ET (US) Folks-- As a motion picture camera operator by trade, I can tell you that the day rates those camera operators are getting is not a horrible rate for documentary television. However, given the environment and situational dangers (constantly!) they are not getting paid enough! My work is primarily feature films and episodic television with the gaps filled by commercials and industrial programs. As a Steadicam/Camera operator, I negotiate my rate on a case by case basis with different ranges of pay for different projects and budget ranges. Basically, these guys have to WANT to work in that environment and put up with those conditions, wind, weather, crew, and captain, and still do their jobs. I work outdoors year round, day and night in all forms of weather found in New York and New England. We are also expected to dress for the conditions and keep working regardless of the weather conditions. We typically only stop for thunderstorms. Oh the stories I could tell from last summer's filming of the Bruce Willis thriller "Surrogates." Those little HD cameras are perfect for this type of production because they are considered "throwaways" given their cost and size. Just a few years ago, HD cameras were well over $100K each and required lots of support gear and technicians. Now they are plug and play and then throw away. The show is better looking but scripting, well, that just means the Captains have gone Hollywood, too! Their boats, their rules!