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jimh posted 04-21-2009 04:39 PM ET (US)   Profile for jimh   Send Email to jimh  
In the earliest Boston Whaler boats, the sheer line of the hull--the fore-and-aft curvature from bow to stern of a ship's deck as shown in side elevation-- was typically a straight line. It occurs to me that the construction technique may have influenced this element of the hull design. I explain.

Drawing the sheer line of a boat's hull has always been a crucial element of the design. Classic yacht designers were known for their artful eye and skillful drawing of the sheer line. However, Boston Whaler boats, particularly the earliest versions, tended to have a straight sheer line, something drawn with a straight edge, without a hint of curve.

To make a Boston Whaler boat with its Unibond hull construction technique, two molds have to be constructed. One mold is for the outer hull, and a second for the inner hull. When the two are combined, the uncured laminate of each hull section must mate to the corresponding face on the other section with an air-tight and pressure-resistant seal. The tight seal is required so that the expanding foam introduced between the hulls can fill the space between them in a controlled manner, only escaping via designated vents, sprue holes, or other secret inventions employed in the construction.

What better surface to design for two structures to meet and bond together than a straight, flat, regular surface? This straight edge may have also helped to simplify the arrangement of clamps needed to fasten the two mold pieces together. As the foam expands, a great deal of pressure is exerted against the molds.

With the development of advanced manufacturing techniques such as computer-aided design, computer controlled machines, and cutting of designs in foam by multi-axis tools, the designers of Boston Whaler boats may have been freed from the constraint of the straight sheer line. Molds and tooling could be made with a mating surface that followed a complex curved shape with as much ease as a straight shape. And the two molds could be made with a certainty they would fit together.

There is some correlation in the design element of the Boston Whaler hull sheer line and the arrival of modern computer-aided design and manufacturing. I believe there may be a linkage between them.

Here is a c.1986 design in which there are three large molded elements that are joined: the outer hull, the inner hull, and the superstructure cap. Notice that the surface at which they meet is perfectly straight.

http://continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/images/86Revenge512x305.jpeg

By 2002 the sheer line of new Boston Whaler designs had acquired a seldom seen curvature, as shown here:

http://continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/images/2002-255Conquest668x350. jpeg
http://continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/images/2002ConquestRear590x397. jpeg

To create molds for two sides of a curving shape must be more difficult than to create molds for two sides of a straight line. Perhaps the availability of construction techniques influenced the design.

L H G posted 04-21-2009 04:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for L H G    
In comparing those two boats (beautiful Revenge, incidentally - whose is it?), I'd say the advent of the CAD-CAM process in boat design and manufacturing has been no friend of Bsotn Whaler, and has done them a great disservice.
george nagy posted 04-21-2009 04:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for george nagy  Send Email to george nagy     
This could be the reason they abandoned the swooped design found on the earlier outrage models such as the first 21' outrage like the one that belongs to LHG.
jimh posted 04-21-2009 05:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
George--Beautiful! You disproved my theory. The old c.1972 OUTRAGE 21 has complex sheer line. Here it is without the upper cap, just the inner hull and outer hull:

http://continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/images/loProfile19a-505x214. jpeg

Now that is a sweeping sheer line!

Here it is with the upper cap in place.

http://continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/images/21Rescue550x342.jpeg

The upper cap does not have to meet with such perfection as the inner and outer hulls, as there is generally an adhesive bonding material used to glue them together. In some cases mechanical fasteners are also added. The seal can be caulked to be water-tight, but it does not have to withstand the pressure of the expanding foam.

ASIDE: all pictures are from the Cetacea collection.

jimh posted 04-21-2009 05:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
In between the era of straight sheer lines and the era of reversing curved shear lines, we also had a brief era of very subtle curved sheer lines. This 1991 Walk Around (or Walkaround) has a very subtle upward curve to the sheer at both bow and transom. Hard to see in the picture. Next time I see BACKLASH I will try to show this in more detail:

http://continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/images/91WA21-512x330.jpeg

jamesmylesmcp posted 04-21-2009 05:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for jamesmylesmcp  Send Email to jamesmylesmcp     
I always liked this picture. http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc91/71outrage/fishing.jpg

And a realy big one with the straight line ! http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc91/71outrage/31-L.jpg I should have kept the big one !

jamesmylesmcp posted 04-21-2009 06:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for jamesmylesmcp  Send Email to jamesmylesmcp     
Just checked the fleet. Pretty straight here too ! http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc91/71outrage/11001.jpg
R T M posted 04-21-2009 08:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for R T M    
In the 1950`s and beyond it was not a problem for industry to design and build any shape boat that was imaginable. It didn`t matter whether the female molds were made of fiberglass or steel in the case of Boston Whaler. Whether the boat had a straight sheer line an upward curving one or a reverse sheer it was only left to the imagination of the designer. Wooden boats were limited to the restraints of wood. The only design feature that was popular in wooden boats that could not be copied in fiberglass was tumblehome, as fiberglass boats needed to be designed with outward sloping sides so they could be released from the molds. Some glass boats were built with tumblehome sides at the stern, but they had to be laid up in two molds and then joined at the keel, a practice that was mostly frowned upon.
In the `50`, they even designed boats with fins to look like cars of the day. Here is a pic of a finned runabout I`m restoring.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c191/floridaboy2053/Sea%20Fury/ seafury3.jpg

WHALETEX posted 04-21-2009 08:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for WHALETEX  Send Email to WHALETEX     
Jim,
Your going to make me take a straight edge to my '69 16' and '63 13'. I really think they are not flat or straight in the shear line, but that may just be the lack of my ability to look at a complex 3-D shape in pure 2-D from the side. I'll report back with my findings

By the way the picture you show of a '70's Outrage 21 without the top cap is actually a Outrage 19 Low Profile. When you take the top cap off of a 21' the shear line swoop up at the bow is much more exagerated than it is on the 19. There was a capless 21 Outrage running around Houston/Galveston in the 70's. On the water it looked like a bow with a console and outboard following behind. Looked like a great boat for wading the bays.

jimh posted 04-21-2009 10:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Thanks for the correction on the 19-Lo-Profile.
jimh posted 04-21-2009 10:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Binkie--You slept through the part where I talk about making molds that match up perfectly and clamp together. I don't think that little runabout you're working on was made in a pair of matching molds. The upper part of the stern probably overlaps the hull mold and is jointed under that rub rail line.

However, if you look at car design in the 1950's and 1960's it is clear that complex shapes could be fashioned and turned into giant stamping press molds. But for a small boat builder, I have to think they might not have had the time and money to invest in extremely complex mold shapes for the joining line.

Until only recently, Boston Whaler used the same hull shape for many models. Now they can turn out molds with such ease that every model has a unique hull shape mold. No more sharing as was so common with OUTRAGE and REVENGE models

hauptjm posted 04-21-2009 10:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for hauptjm    
Jim, I think the majority of your thesis still rings true. The general design elements utilized early on, certainly were dictated by the scope of design technology that existed at that time. And, like LHG, I too think it helped to establish the best Whaler designs. Like the Man said, "be careful what you ask for."
WHALETEX posted 05-05-2009 11:33 AM ET (US)     Profile for WHALETEX  Send Email to WHALETEX     
Well I finally got a chance to look up close at the sheer line on my '63 13' and my '69 16' and they do not meet your disciption:
"However, Boston Whaler boats, particularly the earliest versions, tended to have a straight sheer line, something drawn with a straight edge, without a hint of curve."

Both of these boats represent the ealiest Whalers and no feature on the sheer line interface between the outer hull and inner hull is a straight line without a curve. This interface curves in both the water-line direction (the sheer line) and the butt-line direction as you move fore and aft along this interface. As you cross the stern on each boat this interface rises near the outboard ends and dips in the motor notch. All areas have a near perfect fit with any imperfections covered by the narrow white plastic "L" shaped rub strip.

I do agree that most of these lines are relatively straight when compared to traditional boats of the '50s and '60s but since the ealiest Whalers still used complex curved surfaces at the inner to outer hull interface I think it shoots a hole in the theory that perfectly straight lines where used or needed to facilitate the fit between the inner and outer hull tooling.

I have never witnessed the early Whaler tooling but I expect the perfect fit between the inner and outer hull tooling was accomplished by skilled craftsman either making a splash for each tool off of a plug that represented assembled hull or they made one tool first and then splashed the interface to start making the other tool.

Both techniques are still used today to obtain a near perfect fit between mating parts even with the advent of the modern CAD/CAM design aids.

SJUAE posted 05-05-2009 03:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for SJUAE    
Jim

Although it’s obvious shape, form function and design are locked together and limited only by constriction methods and materials.

As BW is made of GRP formed in moulds simplistically we could say we are limed only by the complexity of the mould.

Although there are many considerations in mould construction within reason only the cost of manufacture would be the biggest restriction, especially for repeat processes.

The complexity of the joint at the inner and outer hull is probably no harder on straights or curves once the basic method and configuration is established.

But I would agree with you general observations from first principles straighter lines would seem a natural place to start.

It’s true that more modern tools available today CAD/CAM and moulds cut from foam on huge CNC type beds and special formulation of materials have changed what is possible. This is probably truer for steels and alloys than GRP.

GRP moulds may have become cheaper to make especially one off complex ones but not necessarily quantum leaps forward of what a very skilled worker could have accomplished given enough time, over todays methods.

I think the biggest factor in the change from straight lines to more curves is simple education.

I don’t mean we were thick and now smart; it’s more we have been taught over the last 40 years about curves.

We now all have new words in our vocabulary of design like ergonomics, natural forms, human factors, bio-metrics etc

We all have been progressively changed into what is beautiful and what is not along with this has come more curves.

Of course development in manufacturing and materials has played its part but the appreciation of curves has been leaned slowly by the main stream.

Strangely we learn very quickly sometimes as when a new design develops often considered ugly at first, once proven is soon added to our repertoire of beauty/appreciation , in hind sight.

Although I can’t agree with the maybe the new style of war ships that have minimum radar silhouettes that are probably the epitome of joining straight lines together. They have their place.

I simply feel BW had no though/demand for the complex curves most of us expect or appreciate today more so than they could not do it, we just did not expect/want them then and no doubt some still do not :)

Regards
Steve

jimh posted 05-06-2009 08:48 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I don't have a 13-footer to demonstrate the curve of the sheer line, but if someone has a 13-footer whose sheer line curves I would like to see a picture that shows it.

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