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JMARTIN posted 05-18-2009 11:59 AM ET (US)
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d137/jmartin-/DSCF4614.jpg
John
68 WhaleR posted 05-18-2009 12:35 PM ET (US)
more like Big Helmet outboards! LOL!
dual kickers also. Sweet!
L H G posted 05-18-2009 12:38 PM ET (US)
I can't tell if those are Suzuki's or Mercs.
fishgutz posted 05-18-2009 01:14 PM ET (US)
Have you seen the cover on a Mercury 75/90/115? They look even more like Darth Vader heads. I'd love to see one without the stickers.
fishgutz posted 05-18-2009 01:16 PM ET (US)
They're all Mercs. The little ones are 15s.
Buckda posted 05-18-2009 01:25 PM ET (US)
Lord Helmet: Prepare for Ludicrous Speed!
Okay...I confess, I own the Spaceballs: the Movie on DVD....
20dauntless posted 05-18-2009 02:09 PM ET (US)
I saw this at Twin Bridges on Saturday. I thought it was strange that the owner of this Trophy had removed all of the decals. Anyone know why Trophy (or our dealer) installed twin kickers? This setup is pretty common on large Trophy's in our area. It never made much sense to me since putting two kickers on adds a few thousand to the purchase price and a fair bit to the maintenance costs. Since the Trophy is a "price" boat, I don't get it. I've never seen twin kickers on big Whalers/Gradys/Pursuits/SeaSports...
Here's a picture of a boat that I saw coming into Friday Harbor on Saturday Pretty strange...
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l267/20dauntless/SAM_6403.jpg
pglein posted 05-18-2009 02:35 PM ET (US)
I would be more impressed if one of the kickers was counter-rotating.
In all seriousness, I would assume this is someone who managed to get a deal on one or both of the kickers. The advantage to two kickers would be greater maneauverability, and reduced noise while trolling. With two kickers, he would be able to use the smaller engines, which use less fuel, whenever running slow, with all the maneauverability you could want for things like docking or getting in and out of tight spaces.
That second boat is very unique. I wonder how fast it will go with just 10hp.
On Saturday, while going through Dalco Pass in my trawler, I was passed (rather close for comfort, by the way) by a man in a what was about a 30' open center console catamaran. It was similar to a deck boat or party barge but much more high-end and appeared to have inboard engines. He was making almost no wake and cruising at about 12-15 knots. Very unique looking boat.
20dauntless posted 05-18-2009 02:39 PM ET (US)
pglein,
Perhaps it was one of these:
http://www.aspenpowercatamarans.com/
Larry Graf, the owner, also founded Glacier Bay Power Cats which are highly regarded, although I have heard they went out of business recently. The Aspen Power Cat is a very unique design with a single diesel in the starboard hull and a narrower port hull. Apparently it is very efficient and tracks straight.
GreatBayNH posted 05-18-2009 04:34 PM ET (US)
Those look a lot like my 2006 FourStroke YamaMerc.
JMARTIN posted 05-18-2009 06:31 PM ET (US)
The "Bluewater Series" is a Merc designation.
Twin kickers, if they are primarily used for trolling, is just stupid. We are trolling for salmon, we are going slow and we do not need much maneuverability.
John
Perry posted 05-18-2009 06:47 PM ET (US)
They are all Mercs, so redundancy is the reason ;-)
TransAm posted 05-18-2009 08:57 PM ET (US)
I wonder what the tie bar looks like on the kickers.
pglein posted 05-18-2009 11:06 PM ET (US)
20dauntless,
Yes! That is it. It was the L80 Launch; I think the very one pictured on the website, actually.
Very interesting concept, though, I don't think it would be for me.
Ritzyrags posted 05-19-2009 12:59 AM ET (US)
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l267/20dauntless/SAM_6403.jpg
I had to smile at the very careful performer.I will bet that he made the boat himself.
Very economical harbor craft AND one can't ever be too careful when going WOT;
That PFD vest may come in handy.
hauptjm posted 05-19-2009 09:39 AM ET (US)
I think the Professor finally figured out how to get off of Gilligan's Island!
Who was your favorite, Ginger or Mary Ann?
RLSmith posted 05-19-2009 01:02 PM ET (US)
Ref the picture of the odd craft with two 5hp outboards... The fitment of the flush mount tinted window on the starboard side of the deck house is impressive.
David Pendleton posted 05-20-2009 12:53 AM ET (US)
Does anyone have picture of a Storm-trooper E-Tec?
deepwater posted 05-20-2009 02:11 PM ET (US)
On a boat that size twin kickers would give better control in moving/flowing waters and save gas
jamesmylesmcp posted 05-22-2009 09:36 PM ET (US)
The local police boat ! http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc91/71outrage/darth.jpg
Mercury Power ! Ventura Offshores !
Peter posted 05-23-2009 08:33 AM ET (US)
Those are Evinrude E-TECs painted black! The black paint makes them go faster. ;)
boatdryver posted 05-23-2009 10:17 AM ET (US)
No more disparaging remarks about this boat please!
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l267/20dauntless/SAM_6403.jpg
If one looks carefully at this power catamaran , one realizes that this is an entry into the Design Competition for the Nancy Pelosi Power Cruiser of the Future, a companion concept to her Car of the Future as featured on utube recently.
Note, if you will, the massive twin engine controls, preserving the illusion of a large twin diesel monohull cruising vessel in the mind of the owner, mitigating his disappointment over the government-mandated reduction in horsepower from his previous boat .
Also note the reduced fuel capacity, in keeping with tomorrow's shrinking supply of fossil fuels. Ingenious engineering in matching horsepower to fuel capacity has preserved a 250 mile range to this cruiser of the future. And, not to worry, the downsized accommodations forward will seem spacious to any former kayak camper.
Note the hulls, thoughtfully fabricated from recycled aluminum foil from the grill. Another money-saving feature, not shown, is the low cost head, which is owner-fabricated from a recycled peanut butter jar.
Perhaps the only shortcoming in this otherwise commendable effort is the narrow yellow strip going forward. If this is intended as a walkway for line handling and anchoring, perhaps it could be widened on a subsequent version.
JimL

brisboats posted 05-23-2009 08:40 PM ET (US)
Perry nailed it.
crabby posted 05-23-2009 10:41 PM ET (US)
Regarding the boat shown in the image posted by 20dauntless, that looks like it may have come off the drawing boards of Braynard May. May is a champion of low tech, very functional, usually unconventional designs meant to be built by anyone with minimal tooling and a strong desire to get out on the water in an economical fashion. I haven't been a regular reader of Woodenboat lately but he used to be a mainstay in that magazine. Time for me to look up some links to post in a followup.
--pm
frostbite posted 05-23-2009 11:04 PM ET (US)
Crabby,
I think you mean Maynard Bray.

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Author	Topic: Darth Vader Brand Outboard
JMARTIN	posted 05-18-2009 11:59 AM ET (US) http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d137/jmartin-/DSCF4614.jpg John
68 WhaleR	posted 05-18-2009 12:35 PM ET (US) more like Big Helmet outboards! LOL! dual kickers also. Sweet!
L H G	posted 05-18-2009 12:38 PM ET (US) I can't tell if those are Suzuki's or Mercs.
fishgutz	posted 05-18-2009 01:14 PM ET (US) Have you seen the cover on a Mercury 75/90/115? They look even more like Darth Vader heads. I'd love to see one without the stickers.
fishgutz	posted 05-18-2009 01:16 PM ET (US) They're all Mercs. The little ones are 15s.
Buckda	posted 05-18-2009 01:25 PM ET (US) Lord Helmet: Prepare for Ludicrous Speed! Okay...I confess, I own the Spaceballs: the Movie on DVD....
20dauntless	posted 05-18-2009 02:09 PM ET (US) I saw this at Twin Bridges on Saturday. I thought it was strange that the owner of this Trophy had removed all of the decals. Anyone know why Trophy (or our dealer) installed twin kickers? This setup is pretty common on large Trophy's in our area. It never made much sense to me since putting two kickers on adds a few thousand to the purchase price and a fair bit to the maintenance costs. Since the Trophy is a "price" boat, I don't get it. I've never seen twin kickers on big Whalers/Gradys/Pursuits/SeaSports... Here's a picture of a boat that I saw coming into Friday Harbor on Saturday Pretty strange... http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l267/20dauntless/SAM_6403.jpg
pglein	posted 05-18-2009 02:35 PM ET (US) I would be more impressed if one of the kickers was counter-rotating. In all seriousness, I would assume this is someone who managed to get a deal on one or both of the kickers. The advantage to two kickers would be greater maneauverability, and reduced noise while trolling. With two kickers, he would be able to use the smaller engines, which use less fuel, whenever running slow, with all the maneauverability you could want for things like docking or getting in and out of tight spaces. That second boat is very unique. I wonder how fast it will go with just 10hp. On Saturday, while going through Dalco Pass in my trawler, I was passed (rather close for comfort, by the way) by a man in a what was about a 30' open center console catamaran. It was similar to a deck boat or party barge but much more high-end and appeared to have inboard engines. He was making almost no wake and cruising at about 12-15 knots. Very unique looking boat.
20dauntless	posted 05-18-2009 02:39 PM ET (US) pglein, Perhaps it was one of these: http://www.aspenpowercatamarans.com/ Larry Graf, the owner, also founded Glacier Bay Power Cats which are highly regarded, although I have heard they went out of business recently. The Aspen Power Cat is a very unique design with a single diesel in the starboard hull and a narrower port hull. Apparently it is very efficient and tracks straight.
GreatBayNH	posted 05-18-2009 04:34 PM ET (US) Those look a lot like my 2006 FourStroke YamaMerc.
JMARTIN	posted 05-18-2009 06:31 PM ET (US) The "Bluewater Series" is a Merc designation. Twin kickers, if they are primarily used for trolling, is just stupid. We are trolling for salmon, we are going slow and we do not need much maneuverability. John
Perry	posted 05-18-2009 06:47 PM ET (US) They are all Mercs, so redundancy is the reason ;-)
TransAm	posted 05-18-2009 08:57 PM ET (US) I wonder what the tie bar looks like on the kickers.
pglein	posted 05-18-2009 11:06 PM ET (US) 20dauntless, Yes! That is it. It was the L80 Launch; I think the very one pictured on the website, actually. Very interesting concept, though, I don't think it would be for me.
Ritzyrags	posted 05-19-2009 12:59 AM ET (US) http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l267/20dauntless/SAM_6403.jpg I had to smile at the very careful performer.I will bet that he made the boat himself. Very economical harbor craft AND one can't ever be too careful when going WOT; That PFD vest may come in handy.
hauptjm	posted 05-19-2009 09:39 AM ET (US) I think the Professor finally figured out how to get off of Gilligan's Island! Who was your favorite, Ginger or Mary Ann?
RLSmith	posted 05-19-2009 01:02 PM ET (US) Ref the picture of the odd craft with two 5hp outboards... The fitment of the flush mount tinted window on the starboard side of the deck house is impressive.
David Pendleton	posted 05-20-2009 12:53 AM ET (US) Does anyone have picture of a Storm-trooper E-Tec?
deepwater	posted 05-20-2009 02:11 PM ET (US) On a boat that size twin kickers would give better control in moving/flowing waters and save gas
jamesmylesmcp	posted 05-22-2009 09:36 PM ET (US) The local police boat ! http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc91/71outrage/darth.jpg Mercury Power ! Ventura Offshores !
Peter	posted 05-23-2009 08:33 AM ET (US) Those are Evinrude E-TECs painted black! The black paint makes them go faster. ;)
boatdryver	posted 05-23-2009 10:17 AM ET (US) No more disparaging remarks about this boat please! http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l267/20dauntless/SAM_6403.jpg If one looks carefully at this power catamaran , one realizes that this is an entry into the Design Competition for the Nancy Pelosi Power Cruiser of the Future, a companion concept to her Car of the Future as featured on utube recently. Note, if you will, the massive twin engine controls, preserving the illusion of a large twin diesel monohull cruising vessel in the mind of the owner, mitigating his disappointment over the government-mandated reduction in horsepower from his previous boat . Also note the reduced fuel capacity, in keeping with tomorrow's shrinking supply of fossil fuels. Ingenious engineering in matching horsepower to fuel capacity has preserved a 250 mile range to this cruiser of the future. And, not to worry, the downsized accommodations forward will seem spacious to any former kayak camper. Note the hulls, thoughtfully fabricated from recycled aluminum foil from the grill. Another money-saving feature, not shown, is the low cost head, which is owner-fabricated from a recycled peanut butter jar. Perhaps the only shortcoming in this otherwise commendable effort is the narrow yellow strip going forward. If this is intended as a walkway for line handling and anchoring, perhaps it could be widened on a subsequent version. JimL
brisboats	posted 05-23-2009 08:40 PM ET (US) Perry nailed it.
crabby	posted 05-23-2009 10:41 PM ET (US) Regarding the boat shown in the image posted by 20dauntless, that looks like it may have come off the drawing boards of Braynard May. May is a champion of low tech, very functional, usually unconventional designs meant to be built by anyone with minimal tooling and a strong desire to get out on the water in an economical fashion. I haven't been a regular reader of Woodenboat lately but he used to be a mainstay in that magazine. Time for me to look up some links to post in a followup. --pm
frostbite	posted 05-23-2009 11:04 PM ET (US) Crabby, I think you mean Maynard Bray.