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HAPPYJIM posted 05-21-2009 04:39 PM ET (US)   Profile for HAPPYJIM   Send Email to HAPPYJIM  
While we all enjoy this special weekend with our family and friends, take a moment to thank those that gave all and the brave men and women of our armed forces away from home. We are so fortunate to have all the freedoms to enjoy daily. These freedoms didn't come cheap as you can see by passing by any military cemetery.

We will never forget you.

Menemsha69 posted 05-21-2009 05:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for Menemsha69  Send Email to Menemsha69     
Amen, Jim.-k
Buckda posted 05-21-2009 05:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
And also remember the brave men and women who are currently in peril while serving our country.

There is at least two CW members in active service - and one who did his duty for 4 years and was re-called to active duty. He went without complaint, though it interrupted his plans.

God bless everyone who has faithfully served this country and special blessings on those who have paid the ultimate sacrifice in that service.

You can argue the question and politics of war and military actions all day long, but we must all remember and respect the service of those who simply gave in the service of their country.

I'll always be grateful for rough men (and women) who stand ready to protect me and my family and friends back home.

New 2 Whalers posted 05-21-2009 06:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for New 2 Whalers  Send Email to New 2 Whalers     
God bless and protect those who make it safe for us to pontificate on these fora.

TC posted 05-22-2009 10:13 AM ET (US)     Profile for TC  Send Email to TC     
This Memorial Day weekend, I am picking my son up from his first year at West Point. What an honor. The last time I was there, I went to the graveyard, and it was very sobering to see recent graduates in that field. These kids signed up knowing full well we are a nation at war. My son could have chosen many different schools with his HS record and SAT's, but he told me he wanted to do something that mattered, not just make money. Thank god there are still young americans with this attitude. I will take many moments to reflect on Memorial Day while I sit in the traffic between NY and VA :)
Hilinercc posted 05-22-2009 10:22 AM ET (US)     Profile for Hilinercc  Send Email to Hilinercc     
Congratulations and God Bless your son, TC, on his first year at West Point. There is nothing better than to hear a young man's desire to follow such a path. I only wish there were nore young people with his vision.

He will prosper for this experience the rest of his life.

A happy and safe holiday to you and yours.

pglein posted 05-22-2009 11:51 AM ET (US)     Profile for pglein  Send Email to pglein     
I justify my recreation on this Holiday weekend by telling myself that our fallen soldiers fought and died so that we could enjoy the freedoms associated with the United States; including the freedom to spend the weekend in a state park BBQing and kicking back beers with my family and friends. But I never forget what we're recognizing, and the sacrifice made for those freedoms. I always make sure, every year, usually around the camfire, after the sun's gone down, but before everyone's gone to bed, to ask everyone to observe a moment of silence and remember, in whatever way they feel is appropriate, the sacrifices made so that we could be here today (and I'm not talking about the hours spent packing gear, preparing the boat, and fighting holiday traffic).

And you better believe my first act upon arrival to whatever campground or island I happen to land on that year, is to find the closest vertical object upon which to attach the biggest American flag I can find.

Sebash4 posted 05-22-2009 12:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for Sebash4  Send Email to Sebash4     
Well said Pglein.. We sometimes forget how fortunate we are in this country..Let us never forget the brave men and women who gave it all so that we can continue to be free of tyranny.
deepwater posted 05-22-2009 06:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for deepwater  Send Email to deepwater     
And we should all remember the sacrifices the worry and heart aches of the spouses sons daughters mothers fathers and friends we left behind,,so its really a day set aside for all of us,, As the military has touched us all in one way or another we should honor US all,,I'M going out back and sit on my cliff and think about what it all meens to me
elaelap posted 05-23-2009 01:15 AM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
My wife and I are heading down to L.A. this coming Wednesday to pay final respects to my father who was born in San Francisco on Memorial Day 1918(!) and died last April 15th. Truly one of the "Greatest Generation," my old dad was a fighter for peace and justice his entire life, and was almost blacklisted along with many of his friends during the evil 1950s for being a "premature anti-Fascist." He was also a killer sailor and fisherman, and loved going out in my Whalers when he visited me up north (he was born in San Francisco and made his career in Los Angeles in the movie industry).

A bunch of his friends are putting together a memorial for him on his birthday, May 27th. Our family had a private get-together shortly after he died, but this will be a full-scale thing, sorta like a non-religious Catholic wake. I can only imagine the tall tales, the laughter and the tears increasing as the liquid refreshment flows, and the proud, solid memories of this fine man.

Anyway, if he were still here I know he would say, as he did throughout the Iraq mess: Full support, at home and abroad, in sickness and in health, for our brave service personnel--Bring 'em home soon, Obama! Keep your promise!

Tony

Newtauk1 posted 05-23-2009 09:37 AM ET (US)     Profile for Newtauk1  Send Email to Newtauk1     
Always Remember. God Bless all on Memorial Day (Decoration Day) in these great United States of America.
Newtauk1 posted 05-23-2009 10:03 AM ET (US)     Profile for Newtauk1  Send Email to Newtauk1     

Memorial Day in 1918 was either on May 5th, designated by Waterloo NY or May 30th. It was not until between 1968 and 1971 that the date became the last Monday in May.
The Chesapeake Explorer posted 05-23-2009 11:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for The Chesapeake Explorer  Send Email to The Chesapeake Explorer     
Today I took my 80 year old mother to Arlington cemetery to visit my fathers grave. He served in the US Navy for 30 years and died some 21 years ago May 31st. Friday troops from the US 3rd Infantry placed US flags on all 200000+ gravesites at Arlington and its something to see. Next to the section where my father is buried is section 60. At the rear of that section is were the fallen armed services soldiers sailors marines and airmen of the current Iraq war are buried at Arlington. The great majority of these young men and women from the war are buried there. It is indeed sobering to see grave stones of young people whos dates of birth are "younger" 1988/1989/1990 then my 1987 Boston Whaler. It gives me pride in my country that I may know that there are such fine people ready to defend me, my family and my nation. Thank God for our veterans and troops whom have keep us safe all these years in a world with so many who would not have any mercy upon us.
Ritzyrags posted 05-24-2009 01:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
God Bless Your Hearts..
ALL.
David Pendleton posted 05-25-2009 12:12 AM ET (US)     Profile for David Pendleton  Send Email to David Pendleton     
Tony, I think you're confusing Memorial Day with May Day.

Memorial Day commemorates those who died while in military service.

AZdave posted 05-25-2009 01:00 AM ET (US)     Profile for AZdave  Send Email to AZdave     
There was an inspiring and humbling story in the Startribune from Minnesota this morning. http://www.startribune.com/local/west/45921387.html?elr=KArksUUUU Dave
Newtauk1 posted 05-25-2009 09:00 AM ET (US)     Profile for Newtauk1  Send Email to Newtauk1     
David. I think you are correct.
elaelap posted 05-25-2009 01:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
At first I was going to respond to your snotty, disrespectful comment with an obscenity, David, but then I remembered the deplorable lack of historical knowledge so often displayed by certain CW members, and forgave you your ignorance.

Memorial Day didn't even officially exist until the early 1970s. It originated as Decoration Day, designed to honor the approximately 620,000 Americans, North and South, who died as soldiers during our Civil War (this number of war-related deaths, BTW, is greater than those dead in all other U.S. wars combined). Currently, Americans celebrate Memorial Day in various ways, part of the celebration being the "National Moment of Remembrance" during which all Americans are encouraged to pause wherever they are at 3 p.m. local time on Memorial Day for a minute of silence "to remember and honor those who have died in service to the nation."

You'll forgive me, please, if during that Moment of Remembrance I choose to think about members of my family, going back to the Civil War, many of whom served in the armed services and who are now dead, as well as other family members who served their nation as union organizers, civil rights advocates, and fighters for peace and justice at home and among nations...including my father who happened to be born on Memorial Day (back when it was still known as Decoration Day) and who died last month after a long and, in my mind, heroic life (the kind of life, and the kind of heroism, David, which I'm afraid you're incapable of understanding or appreciating). With your kind permission, I'll also take the time to remember and honor others who have died in service to the nation, including true Amercian heroes such as Abraham Lincoln, Franklin Delano & Eleanor Roosevelt, Martin Luther King, Jr., Caesar Chavez, Rosa Parks, Mario Savio, Harvey Milk, and thousands of others, known and unknown, who were never members of the military but whose service was and is of immeasurable value. I will also join the millions of patriotic Americans, civilians and military veterans, who use this solemn occasion to demand, "Support our troops. Keep your promise, Obama, and bring them home from Iraq."

Tony

HAPPYJIM posted 05-25-2009 03:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for HAPPYJIM  Send Email to HAPPYJIM     
You disappoint me, Tony.

As you stated, "Currently, Americans celebrate Memorial Day in various ways, part of the celebration being the "National Moment of Remembrance" during which all Americans are encouraged to pause wherever they are at 3 p.m. local time on Memorial Day for a minute of silence "to remember and honor those who have died in service to the nation."

Why can't we just leave it that. I don't think anyone will deny that your dad was a great man, but this is about those that gave the ultimate sacrifice while serving in the military.

As far as Abraham Lincoln, Franklin Delano & Eleanor Roosevelt, Martin Luther King, Jr., Caesar Chavez, Rosa Parks, Mario Savio and Harvey Milk, some already have days set aside to honor them. I don't see the need to honor them on a day set aside for our military heroes. Memorial Day is to honor and remember those who gave all while serving in the military for their country.

Lets keep this simple AND civil and pay our respect for those brave souls that unselfishly died while keeping us and our loved ones free and safe from people wanting to do harm to us. Heroes like Petty Officer Michael A. Monsoor will be remembered by many this Memorial Day.

http://www.navyseals.com/michael-monsoor

jimh posted 05-25-2009 04:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Let's try to leave politics at the office for the purposes of this thread. Thank you all.
elaelap posted 05-25-2009 04:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
You miss the point entirely, HJ. The brave armed service personnel and our nation's heroic civilian freedom fighters combined to allow me and you to celebrate this day as we please, and if for me that means honoring the memory of my father, who was born on this day 91 years ago and who died last month, I don't need to listen to any thoughtless, unkind comments from some armchair patriot. I intend to spend this day as I choose, not at a sports event, not watching an auto race or baseball game, not rushing out to waste my money at some corporate mega-mall, but instead pausing to remember and honor, for a brief time at least, those Americans who made a true difference for all of us. And I sure ain't gonna apologize for it!

Tony

john10 posted 05-25-2009 05:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for john10  Send Email to john10     
Mr. Pendleton,

politics aside, as requested by the moderator, your comment was thoughtless and rude.

John 10

fourdfish posted 05-25-2009 05:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for fourdfish  Send Email to fourdfish     
Amen! God Bless our servicemen past and present!
jimh posted 05-25-2009 05:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
OK, let's leave trading personal insults at the office, too.
Sal A posted 05-25-2009 05:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for Sal A    
Jim,

I love that poem. I just read it to my boys. Thank you.

Sheila posted 05-25-2009 07:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for Sheila  Send Email to Sheila     
It would not be Memorial Day without coming here and finding "Flanders Fields" prominently displayed.

The brave men of my family who went forth to protect our freedom (one grandfather, both uncles, my father, my FIL, my husband, two BILs, both bonus sons...and others in more distant generations) were all fortunate enough to return home alive. But each of them went knowing it could be otherwise.

And young men and women go today, knowing they may, or may not, come home.

I am so thankful for all who paid the ultimate price for my freedom. I pray that God will guide me to make it count for more than my own happiness in the days He's allotted to me.

TransAm posted 05-25-2009 08:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for TransAm  Send Email to TransAm     
I spent a good part of the morning, and now a good part of the late afternoon and evening, watching AMC and the great line-up of WWII movies. The Battle of the Bulge, Patton, and now Midway. I wish our government had the courage to let our fighting men and women kick-ass like they did in WWII.
Newtauk1 posted 05-25-2009 11:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for Newtauk1  Send Email to Newtauk1     
"as well as other family members who served their nation as union organizers, civil rights advocates, and fighters for peace and justice at home and among nations.."

Memorial Day is for those who served in the military. Period. You are mocking those who served by lumping in anyone else.

Many feel union organizers were communists. Many today blame the unions for the United States demise with respect to manufacturing. Tony, your father's birthday does not appear to be on Memorial Day or Decoration Day. In 1918 Decoration Day was not May 27th period.

Your agenda also falls on the wrong day. Give it a rest.

Always Remember.

Newtauk1 posted 05-25-2009 11:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for Newtauk1  Send Email to Newtauk1     
Tony, It is for those In the Service.
Newtauk1 posted 05-25-2009 11:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for Newtauk1  Send Email to Newtauk1     
John10,
Do you know what May Day is? It is basically a day for organized groups, typically labor groups to celebrate their unions. That is what Tony is so proud of; His family's tradition of community organizing,civil organization and often public protest.

Unfortunately his posting it on Memorial Day amounts to the same result the gay community found by trying to march in the South Boston St. Patrick's Day Parade. They partitioned the highest courts and lost because their intent to march had nothing to do with the true good of the parade and its original purpose. Yes the gay community has rights, but their choice of venue was deemed inappropriate. period.

Tony's decision to post on this Memorial Day topic is viewed by most as inappropriate.

I remember my father today, a WW2 vet and my father in law a Korean War Vet who we are burying tomorrow, yes Tuesday as he passed on Thursday, May 21stat 9:15pm. He was a commercial fisherman his entire life after serving his country during the Korean war immediately after high school. He loved his family and served his country. I do not believe he would have much in common with Tony's father.

john10 posted 05-26-2009 09:37 AM ET (US)     Profile for john10  Send Email to john10     
"Tony's decision to post on this Memorial Day topic is viewed by most as inappropriate. "

...actually, there only seem to be three of you that want to make an issue of his comment.

elaelap posted 05-26-2009 10:17 AM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
I sure hope my friends David Pendleton, Newtauk & HJ took Fox News' lead and paused to remember the unsung heroes of each military action, the non-service personnel who serve as caregivers to returning wounded, their families and health care providers.

I won't apologize for my comments here. I was taught the true significance of Memorial Day back in the late 1960s by members of VVAW-Winter Soldier Organization, active members of the military who used the day to raise consciousness about our invasion and occupation of Viet Nam. They taught me and many others that fighters for peace during times of national madness are as much to be honored as soldiers unwillingly drafted and forced to involve themselves in an unjust, unnecessary war. (I'm not a pacifist, BTW; but I believe this nation has fought in three and only three justifiable conflicts in its history--the War of Independence, the Civil War, and the Second World War. All the rest have been wars of conquest and imperialism, and while I honor those who fell, I sure don't feel that their deaths were for some noble purpose.)

Anyway, we've got Veterans Day coming up on November 11th, originally called Armistice Day to celebrate the end of the ultimate useless imperial war, WW I, during which more than 20 million servicemen from just about every nation on earth lost their lives. Can anyone here tell me why?

Tony

TransAm posted 05-26-2009 10:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for TransAm  Send Email to TransAm     
Tony, I think most of us here don't care one way or the other about your post above. I personally choose to grieve and remember my father, a serviceman, in private and certainly not in a public boating forum. If you are going to share your personal feelings regarding family passings, expect to receive comment-both affirmative and dissenting. I don't think we want to debate justification of each war in which our country has contributed either.
Newtauk1 posted 05-26-2009 03:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for Newtauk1  Send Email to Newtauk1     
Enough said. I regret being sucked into and contributing to this post in the manner I ultimately did. I stand by my original reply.

"Always Remember. God Bless all on Memorial Day (Decoration Day) in these great United States of America. "

Ritzyrags posted 05-26-2009 05:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
A time to gather;
And a time to pay our Respects;
Publicly;
Or in the privacy of our own thoughts.
A time to take care;
Heed the words and to honor the memory of our "Elders"
A time to sometimes;
Agree to disagree.
And to remember of the Qualities that makes us whole;
Bravery,Principle and Ethics;
To allow Us to carry on..
Each and every day of our lives...

My Respects on this Memorial Day.

BlueMax posted 05-26-2009 06:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for BlueMax  Send Email to BlueMax     
quote:
I am thankful for small mercies. I compared notes with one of my friends who expects everything of the universe, and is disappointed when anything is less than the best, and I found that I begin at the other extreme, expecting nothing, and am always full of thanks for moderate goods.

- Ralph Waldo Emerson
deepwater posted 05-26-2009 06:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for deepwater  Send Email to deepwater     
It never realy ends in here for you does it ,,jimh,,some of us understand ^@^
merc125 posted 05-26-2009 08:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for merc125  Send Email to merc125     
Tony, I am surprised that you consider the Civil War justifable. To someone observing the start of that war, the end of slavery in the US would seem the least likely cause or outcome of that horror. Lincoln did not have the authority to start that war, the congress that did was not elected til June, and did not sit till August.
Lincoln effected profound lasting changes in the banking system, suspensded habeas corpus, and empowered a homeland security force that makes ours seem like the boyscouts.
Imagine you are a Maryland housewife/mother. Your sons have been drafted, your husband has been imprisoned for asking why, and you can't complain to the state house of representitves, because they are in jail right next to him.
I'm not an expert, but what I've read of the politics behind the emancipation proclamation makes cringe. The pow camps could have been a model for hitler or pol pot. MartyD
TransAm posted 05-26-2009 09:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for TransAm  Send Email to TransAm     
http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=110

Have at it

R T M posted 05-26-2009 09:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for R T M    
TA here is what you say in your above post.

I wish our government had the courage to let our fighting men and women kick-ass like they did in WWII

By that remark, I can only conclude that you think our Armed Forces Commanders, and our government, during the Korean Conflict, the Vietnam War, and the Two Mideast Wars, weren't trying hard enough to actually win those wars, and thereby just sacrificed our troops. With the exception of the Mideast Wars, most of our troops were draftees, and had no say in what they did, but they kicked ass, anyway, as a means of staying alive. The results of those wars did not have anything to do with how hard the troops in the field fought. I think you owe an apology to those veterans and the families of the lost.

rich/Binkie

TransAm posted 05-26-2009 10:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for TransAm  Send Email to TransAm     
rich, you were suppose to click on the link I kindly provided for blowhards like yourself. The day is over, now quit your blabbering; grow up, would ya.
R T M posted 05-26-2009 10:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for R T M    
TA, I would have thought you would have been all camo`ed out, playing pantball games on Memorial Day. BTW during your Memorial Day movie watching, John Wayne was a movie actor, not a war hero on Iwo Jima, Battan, and never flew any fighter planes for the Marines, not did he captain a PT Boat, for the Navy.
The link you posted had nothing to do with your first post.
Ritzyrags posted 05-26-2009 11:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
Hey Guys,

I think that all of you are outstanding individuals...
Should I give you Guys another one of my poems!!!
LOL..
It is truly unfortunate that;
We can't all meet face to face around a table full of frothy Stouts in commemoration of times like these;
And get over these minute differences;
I'd bet you that the evening would end up in songs,
Yes, I will concede;
There would be minor scrapes;
But I think that we would all move on..
http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/017279.html
I think that we were on to something there...

TransAm posted 05-27-2009 08:22 AM ET (US)     Profile for TransAm  Send Email to TransAm     
Glenn Ford's (Midway) movie career was interrupted when he volunteered for service in the marines in 1942 and was honorably discharged from the Marines on December 7, 1944. In 1958, he joined the U.S. Naval Reserve and was commissioned as a lieutenant commander with a 1655 designator (public affairs officer). During his annual training tours, he promoted the Navy through radio and television broadcasts, personal appearances, and documentary films. He was promoted to commander in 1963 and captain in 1968.

Ford went to Vietnam in 1967 and traveled with a combat camera crew from the DMZ south to the Mekong Delta. For his service in Vietnam, the Navy awarded him a Navy Commendation Medal. Other decorations are as follows: American Campaign Medal, Asiatic-Pacific Campaign Medal, World War II Victory Medal, Rifle Marksman Badge, and the U.S. Marine Corps Reserve Medal. He retired from the Naval Reserve in the 1970s at the rank of captain.

Geroge C. Scott (Patton) also served 4 years in the marines from 1945 to 1949.

Henry Fonda (Midway & The Battle of the Bulge), although I'm sure I wouldn't agree with his politics, served in the Navy from 1942–45: lieutenant; Bronze Star and Presidential citation.

Robert Ryan (Battle of the Bulge) made his film debut at the studio in the wartime action thriller Bombardier. His career was interrupted by World War II -- he joined the Marines in 1944 and spent the next three years in uniform.

John Wayne wasn't in any of the movies I cited rich. You can do some more research on the other actors in these movies if you want-wikipedia is a great source, but keep blabbering...we are all entertained, LOL!

R T M posted 05-27-2009 03:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for R T M    
Unlike many male famous movie stars of the 1940`s John Wayne was never in the service, as he was given a deferment because he had 4 children at the start of the war. While he was unpopular with the service men during the war, many civilians looked upon him as sort of a hero, as he kept their spirits high during the dark days of the Pacific Campaign, Many of his films such as THE SANDS OF IWO JIMA, and BACK TO BATTAN, came out shortly after the actual battles, and showed the heroic efforts of the combat troops. As a kid, I was at all those great battles in the Pacific, through "The Dukes" movies.

Written by memory, don`t need Wikipedia.

TransAm posted 05-27-2009 05:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for TransAm  Send Email to TransAm     
One minute you're tearing the poor old Duke a new one for not being an "actual" war hero (only playing one), the next minute lavish praise on him for showing kids like you the great efforts of our military. Make your mind up for crying out loud. Written by memory...good one. Funny how you remember the Dukes bio but can't recall how long marine plywood lasts. LOL
deepwater posted 05-27-2009 06:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for deepwater  Send Email to deepwater     
Thats enough guys,, let the dead sleep in peace for another year
R T M posted 05-27-2009 08:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for R T M    
TA, The life of marine plywood marine plywood is determined by the knowledge and the skill of the person installing it. Your knowledge seems lacking, and I have no idea of your skills. but it is not a magical plywood that is fool proof. The glue used is the same glue used in all exterior plywood, the advantage of marine over exterior is marine has no voids, and is more plys. Regular marine plywood is fir. Okoume, produced in Europe is mahogany, and is more highly regarded, and has waterproof and is the wood that is used in most plywood boatbuilding today.
OK, so now you have a little knowledge, but why do you need any. You are not known to build wood boats, and you sheet your projects with OSB board.

rich

elaelap posted 05-29-2009 12:44 AM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
Please, please stick to what you know, some of you. Motion picture industry right wing heroes such as Ronald Reagan (who was considerably left of center way back then) and John Wayne (who was a nice guy, but stupid as the day is long), as well as "premature anti-fascists" such as my much-maligned father, were encouraged to utilize their special talents during World War II in ways different from the run-of-the-mill draftee. Check out this plaque I brought back from the Memorial Day wake held by my father's (dare I say it?) movie industry friends and, gulp, comrades, and maybe you'll begin to understand something about the history of the "greatest generation":

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/elaelap/ALWArmyAirCorps001.jpg

For those who don't know, a "premature anti-fascist"-- according to the shameful, witch-hunting American ultra-rightists in the early 1950s like Joe McCarthy and members of the House Un-American Activities Committee--was a person who actively opposed the rise of Hitler and Mussolini, and perhaps supported the Spanish Republic against Franco and his fascist allies during the 1930s, before the cowardly isolationist U.S. and British governments acknowledged the danger. Some of these guys were communists, others socialists, others priests, ministers and rabbis, still others, like my father and many of his motion picture industry friends, were left-leaning pro-union, anti-racist Jeffersonian small-'d' democrats, sorta like me.

RIP, Dad. Them that understand won't begrudge me the incredible experience I just shared over the Memorial Day weekend celebrating your life and passing with a bunch of your friends and family members; the other fellows be damned!

Tony

R T M posted 05-29-2009 06:21 AM ET (US)     Profile for R T M    
I remember the McCarthy era. As a teenager I wasn`t much into politics, or right or left, but I remember I thought he was full of cr@p. Its a good thing we didn`t have cable TV back then, Fox news would have had a field day what with with everyone who was anti right wing being called a communist. Back then it was depicted that there was a commie behind every bush.

rich/Binkie

TransAm posted 05-29-2009 08:04 AM ET (US)     Profile for TransAm  Send Email to TransAm     
You guys are posting in the wrong thread. There's a Port-a-potty thread for this crap your are polluting a Memorial Day thread with.
jimh posted 05-29-2009 08:52 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
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