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tombro posted 05-23-2009 06:37 AM ET (US)
MANASQUAN — State police said one person was killed and four injured — all teenagers, according to authorities and witnesses — when two boats collided in the Manasquan River near the railroad bridge Friday evening.
The accident happened on the north side of the river at the mouth of the Manasquan Inlet when a 15-foot-boat and a 25-foot-boat collided, said Sgt. Julian Castellano, State Police spokesman.
The smaller boat had five people aboard and the larger boat had two people aboard, according to the Coast Guard.
Coast Guard Petty Officer Chris McLaughlin said the boats were traveling in opposite directions when the operator of the smaller boat somehow lost control, leading to the collision.
Witnesses said the smaller boat's five occupants appeared to be teens between the ages of 13 and 16. State Police were called at 7:45 p.m., and marine police, State Police aviation units and the Coast Guard responded, Castellano said.
Four people from the 15-foot-boat were thrown into the water, the Coast Guard said in a prepared release, with one person was reported unconscious and initially trapped on the boat.
A small boat crew from Coast Guard Station Manasquan Inlet, a Sea Tow boat crew and a Good Samaritan arrived on scene and took the four people out of the water, the release said. Four people were taken to Union Landing Marina here to be placed in the care of emergency medical personnel.
Of the injured, two were flown by State Police medivac helicopter to Jersey Shore Medical Center in Neptune, and two were taken there by ambulance, Castellano said.
McLaughlin said two of the teens were hospitalized in critical condition late Friday while two others were in good condition. Two men on the 25-foot-boat were not injured, he said.

Press reports indicate the 15 foot boat was a Boston Whaler. God Bless the families; this is a dangerous spot
tombro posted 05-23-2009 07:03 AM ET (US)
Further info from an eyewitness: "The Boston Whaler did not have the 'extensive' damage the news reported. Her hull was low in the water, but other than that she was mostly operational and was towed by a USCG inflatable with the two men still aboard."
Nails posted 05-23-2009 07:43 AM ET (US)
This is horrible news. I pass this area 3 to 4 times per week. There lots of speculation, of course, but I do know I have been blinded by the setting sun and would not be surprised if this somehow was involved. As you're leaving the inlet heading west and are entering the river near Fisherman's Cove there's lots of recreational activity at that spot and lots of young people. I have heard that the younger boaters were older than the 13 to 16 that has been reported. What a shame.
Sal A posted 05-23-2009 07:59 AM ET (US)
The larger boat was a 26' Boston Whaler with two adults aboard. The smaller boat was a 15' skiff, I believe.
Dave Sutton posted 05-23-2009 08:48 AM ET (US)
Not good.
I took a 27 foot Triton thru there Thursday on my way south for a delivery to a customer via the canal and points south, and it's a darned small passage thru the bridge. The sun was right in my eyes, and the following current was strong. Not a great spot on a congested day. Used to run (and still occasionally mate aboard) a charter boat based at Union Landing, and we see all sorts of buffoonery at the bridge on busy days. There is "just" barely room for two small boats or one large one to be in the cut at a time, and there have been more near-collisions there than I can count. I was just a matter of time. Sad to see.

Dave
timing posted 05-23-2009 09:11 AM ET (US)

Thoughts and prayers for the kids & families involved in that sad tragedy.
Negotiating traffic at that bridge in either direction is always concerning.
Many times seaward boats don’t swing North enough on their approach,
and depending upon the size for the seaward boat, the returning boat (perspective in pic below) doesn’t see them till the last minute because of the blind zone created by bridge base.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b2/1845JR/MRR_bridge.jpg
Newtauk1 posted 05-23-2009 03:31 PM ET (US)
Good to know "The Boston Whaler did not have the 'extensive' damage".
tombro posted 05-24-2009 10:06 AM ET (US)
Latest news story (Newark Star Ledger)is that the accident occurred as a 15 foot Key West skiff, with 5 aboard, collided head-on with a 30 foot Boston Whaler Conquest in Manasquan Inlet. The Whaler was returning from the sea.
A 24 year old male was killed, and several of the remaining 4 occupants of the skiff are in critical condition, and require surgery.
The Whaler was returning from a sea trial with only a prospective client and the salesman aboard; neither was injured.
There were no current findings released regarding drug or alcohol use by any of those involved in the accident.
jimh posted 05-24-2009 11:46 AM ET (US)
From
www.nj.com

"Yesterday State Police said witnesses reported seeing ...a skiff made by Key West, moving erratically and veering into a 30-foot Boston Whaler headed in the opposite direction.
"They hit bow to bow," State Police Sgt. Stephen Jones said.
"The two boats had been traveling in opposite directions -- the smaller boat heading into the inlet, the Boston Whaler motoring out -- when [the helmsman of the smaller boat] somehow lost control, Coast Guard Petty Officer Chris McLaughlin said yesterday.
"According to Jones, the skiff started moving in tight circles at full speed after the collision, ejecting [three passengers]. An employee of a towboat operator jumped onto the boat -- "kind of akin to jumping on a moving horse" -- and was able to stop it, Jones said."
Sal A posted 05-24-2009 07:42 PM ET (US)
This is so sad. If it were a sea trial of a 305 Conquest, I fear it is a McCarthy Boat.
Phil T posted 05-24-2009 07:53 PM ET (US)
Sal -
From the news story linked above:

quote:
That vessel, named the Pura Vida, was being operated by Edward McCarthy, 55, of Brick; the passenger was John Hessels, 34, of Neptune City, McLaughlin said. McCarthy owns McCarthy Marine in Brielle and was test-driving the boat at the time of the crash...
jimh posted 05-25-2009 09:57 AM ET (US)
The article also says:
"The Boston Whaler... was damaged and took on water...."
It must have been an awful impact. To hit a big CONQUEST so hard you punch a hole in the bow would take unbelievable force.
Hoosier posted 05-26-2009 10:02 PM ET (US)
Is this near where there was another fatal accident involving a Whaler last August? Same policeman in both stories.
http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/016576.html
Hoosier posted 05-27-2009 03:03 AM ET (US)
Is this near where there was another fatal accident involving a Whaler last August? Same policeman in both stories.
http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/016576.html
Sal A posted 05-27-2009 05:45 AM ET (US)
It is within a few miles. The two areas are separated by the Point Pleasant Canal, and a short run. There is a lack of no wake signage in my opinion. The older boaters know the ropes, but do the younger ones know too? Or do they know and are just and impulsive.
Brian7son posted 05-27-2009 08:43 AM ET (US)
After reviewing the articles and seeing the photo inserted above, the fact that this area is not a no wake zone is baffling. In the photo there is a marina on the right.
Here in Florida, we have way too many no wake zones. However, in the aforementioned scenario, it would have prevented a tragedy.
Tohsgib posted 05-27-2009 10:06 AM ET (US)
Brian...all bridge areas are no wake zones in NJ....unlike FL.
Brian7son posted 05-27-2009 10:21 AM ET (US)
WOW!! That happened in a no wake zone??
That's terrible.
JoeyP posted 05-30-2009 07:48 PM ET (US)
Ed is an experienced and safe captain, especially on a sea trial. The witness accounts clearly put that [other boat] operator as the cause. No doubt lack of experience and some unfamiliarity with that area was also going against the [other boat] operator. I feel bad for all involved.

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Author	Topic: Manasquan River Boating Fatality Involves Boston Whaler CONQUEST
tombro	posted 05-23-2009 06:37 AM ET (US) MANASQUAN — State police said one person was killed and four injured — all teenagers, according to authorities and witnesses — when two boats collided in the Manasquan River near the railroad bridge Friday evening. The accident happened on the north side of the river at the mouth of the Manasquan Inlet when a 15-foot-boat and a 25-foot-boat collided, said Sgt. Julian Castellano, State Police spokesman. The smaller boat had five people aboard and the larger boat had two people aboard, according to the Coast Guard. Coast Guard Petty Officer Chris McLaughlin said the boats were traveling in opposite directions when the operator of the smaller boat somehow lost control, leading to the collision. Witnesses said the smaller boat's five occupants appeared to be teens between the ages of 13 and 16. State Police were called at 7:45 p.m., and marine police, State Police aviation units and the Coast Guard responded, Castellano said. Four people from the 15-foot-boat were thrown into the water, the Coast Guard said in a prepared release, with one person was reported unconscious and initially trapped on the boat. A small boat crew from Coast Guard Station Manasquan Inlet, a Sea Tow boat crew and a Good Samaritan arrived on scene and took the four people out of the water, the release said. Four people were taken to Union Landing Marina here to be placed in the care of emergency medical personnel. Of the injured, two were flown by State Police medivac helicopter to Jersey Shore Medical Center in Neptune, and two were taken there by ambulance, Castellano said. McLaughlin said two of the teens were hospitalized in critical condition late Friday while two others were in good condition. Two men on the 25-foot-boat were not injured, he said. Press reports indicate the 15 foot boat was a Boston Whaler. God Bless the families; this is a dangerous spot
tombro	posted 05-23-2009 07:03 AM ET (US) Further info from an eyewitness: "The Boston Whaler did not have the 'extensive' damage the news reported. Her hull was low in the water, but other than that she was mostly operational and was towed by a USCG inflatable with the two men still aboard."
Nails	posted 05-23-2009 07:43 AM ET (US) This is horrible news. I pass this area 3 to 4 times per week. There lots of speculation, of course, but I do know I have been blinded by the setting sun and would not be surprised if this somehow was involved. As you're leaving the inlet heading west and are entering the river near Fisherman's Cove there's lots of recreational activity at that spot and lots of young people. I have heard that the younger boaters were older than the 13 to 16 that has been reported. What a shame.
Sal A	posted 05-23-2009 07:59 AM ET (US) The larger boat was a 26' Boston Whaler with two adults aboard. The smaller boat was a 15' skiff, I believe.
Dave Sutton	posted 05-23-2009 08:48 AM ET (US) Not good. I took a 27 foot Triton thru there Thursday on my way south for a delivery to a customer via the canal and points south, and it's a darned small passage thru the bridge. The sun was right in my eyes, and the following current was strong. Not a great spot on a congested day. Used to run (and still occasionally mate aboard) a charter boat based at Union Landing, and we see all sorts of buffoonery at the bridge on busy days. There is "just" barely room for two small boats or one large one to be in the cut at a time, and there have been more near-collisions there than I can count. I was just a matter of time. Sad to see. Dave
timing	posted 05-23-2009 09:11 AM ET (US) Thoughts and prayers for the kids & families involved in that sad tragedy. Negotiating traffic at that bridge in either direction is always concerning. Many times seaward boats don’t swing North enough on their approach, and depending upon the size for the seaward boat, the returning boat (perspective in pic below) doesn’t see them till the last minute because of the blind zone created by bridge base. http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b2/1845JR/MRR_bridge.jpg
Newtauk1	posted 05-23-2009 03:31 PM ET (US) Good to know "The Boston Whaler did not have the 'extensive' damage".
tombro	posted 05-24-2009 10:06 AM ET (US) Latest news story (Newark Star Ledger)is that the accident occurred as a 15 foot Key West skiff, with 5 aboard, collided head-on with a 30 foot Boston Whaler Conquest in Manasquan Inlet. The Whaler was returning from the sea. A 24 year old male was killed, and several of the remaining 4 occupants of the skiff are in critical condition, and require surgery. The Whaler was returning from a sea trial with only a prospective client and the salesman aboard; neither was injured. There were no current findings released regarding drug or alcohol use by any of those involved in the accident.
jimh	posted 05-24-2009 11:46 AM ET (US) From www.nj.com "Yesterday State Police said witnesses reported seeing ...a skiff made by Key West, moving erratically and veering into a 30-foot Boston Whaler headed in the opposite direction. "They hit bow to bow," State Police Sgt. Stephen Jones said. "The two boats had been traveling in opposite directions -- the smaller boat heading into the inlet, the Boston Whaler motoring out -- when [the helmsman of the smaller boat] somehow lost control, Coast Guard Petty Officer Chris McLaughlin said yesterday. "According to Jones, the skiff started moving in tight circles at full speed after the collision, ejecting [three passengers]. An employee of a towboat operator jumped onto the boat -- "kind of akin to jumping on a moving horse" -- and was able to stop it, Jones said."
Sal A	posted 05-24-2009 07:42 PM ET (US) This is so sad. If it were a sea trial of a 305 Conquest, I fear it is a McCarthy Boat.
Phil T	posted 05-24-2009 07:53 PM ET (US) Sal - From the news story linked above: quote: That vessel, named the Pura Vida, was being operated by Edward McCarthy, 55, of Brick; the passenger was John Hessels, 34, of Neptune City, McLaughlin said. McCarthy owns McCarthy Marine in Brielle and was test-driving the boat at the time of the crash...
jimh	posted 05-25-2009 09:57 AM ET (US) The article also says: "The Boston Whaler... was damaged and took on water...." It must have been an awful impact. To hit a big CONQUEST so hard you punch a hole in the bow would take unbelievable force.
Hoosier	posted 05-26-2009 10:02 PM ET (US) Is this near where there was another fatal accident involving a Whaler last August? Same policeman in both stories. http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/016576.html
Hoosier	posted 05-27-2009 03:03 AM ET (US) Is this near where there was another fatal accident involving a Whaler last August? Same policeman in both stories. http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/016576.html
Sal A	posted 05-27-2009 05:45 AM ET (US) It is within a few miles. The two areas are separated by the Point Pleasant Canal, and a short run. There is a lack of no wake signage in my opinion. The older boaters know the ropes, but do the younger ones know too? Or do they know and are just and impulsive.
Brian7son	posted 05-27-2009 08:43 AM ET (US) After reviewing the articles and seeing the photo inserted above, the fact that this area is not a no wake zone is baffling. In the photo there is a marina on the right. Here in Florida, we have way too many no wake zones. However, in the aforementioned scenario, it would have prevented a tragedy.
Tohsgib	posted 05-27-2009 10:06 AM ET (US) Brian...all bridge areas are no wake zones in NJ....unlike FL.
Brian7son	posted 05-27-2009 10:21 AM ET (US) WOW!! That happened in a no wake zone?? That's terrible.
JoeyP	posted 05-30-2009 07:48 PM ET (US) Ed is an experienced and safe captain, especially on a sea trial. The witness accounts clearly put that [other boat] operator as the cause. No doubt lack of experience and some unfamiliarity with that area was also going against the [other boat] operator. I feel bad for all involved.