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Ritzyrags posted 06-25-2009 04:39 PM ET (US)
This came up as a possibility.
Yamaha 225 Four Strokes 2003.
http://img208.imageshack.us/i/yamaha2252003.jpg/
No prop,
No cable.
1800 HRS.
Ball park figure of it's worth?
jimh posted 06-25-2009 07:58 PM ET (US)
If an
automobile travelled
at 55-MPH
for 1,800-hours
it would
have gone 99,000 miles. In
the case
of a boat,
that would
be equivalent
to
driving
uphill
at
a
good
grade
for 99,000 miles.
Ritzyrags posted 06-25-2009 11:21 PM ET (US)
Thanks
for making it
easy to read
Jim;
But
I
think
that
you
may
have
forgotten
to
state a
dollar figure.
Jeff posted 06-25-2009 11:35 PM ET (US)
Serge,
Was that
a
commercially used mot
or? The
one
s
on GSA with that
many hours
go for $2000
-
$3750.
More
than I personally
think they
are worth
since commercially used motors tend live
a hard life.
Ritzyrags posted 06-26-2009 09:02 AM ET (US)
Yes it is commercial and an auction.
The bidding is at $3200 and the reserve has not been met yet.
There also maybe worn leg parts..
The unit goes for 15 to 20 Ks new, right?
Jeff posted 06-26-2009 09:12 AM ET (US)
Ji
m
Tha
nk
you f
or
chang
ing t
he
format
ting
of my r
eply to
enha
nce yo
ur
attem
pt
at
humor.
Tohsgib posted 06-26-2009 11:01 AM ET (US)
I would not touch it with a 10' pole unless I knew the former owner and how it was cared for and serviced.
TransAm posted 06-26-2009 11:02 AM ET (US)
No worries, those Yamaha V-6 4-strokes are "bullet-proof",;-)
Tohsgib posted 06-26-2009 11:47 AM ET (US)
Really..next time I see FNO I will shoot his with my 357 and see.
Tohsgib posted 06-26-2009 11:49 AM ET (US)
Actually they look real clean and I assume fresh water use by the scumline.
Ritzyrags posted 06-26-2009 03:49 PM ET (US)
Yes,
Fresh water all right.
The bid is up to 4600 and four days left.
To the best of your recollection.
How much do they go for brand new in 03?
kglinz posted 06-26-2009 07:44 PM ET (US)
MSRP was $17,440. I don't know what I paid for mine because there was a trade involved. Maybe $13,000. $4,600 is probably a fair retail, but it's no deal.
jimh posted 06-26-2009 07:59 PM ET (US)
In Ritzy's
threads no
line can be
longer than
12
characters.
jimh posted 06-27-2009 09:50 AM ET (US)
If the engine's new cost was $17,500, and we assume its remaining value is $4,600, we see that the value is about 26-percent of original. We then project this notion of remaining value onto the operating hours, thus at 1,800 hours we have used up 74-percent of the engine's useful life, assuming a linear relationship among all factors. This implies that the useful life is about
1,800-hour / 0.74 = 2,430-hours
Since 1,800 hours have already been used, the engine has remaining
2,430 - 1,800 = 632-hours
of useful life before its value declines to zero.
Ritzyrags posted 06-27-2009 11:25 AM ET (US)
Knowing the auction's ways;
I will predict that these items may go up to 5k and more.
Just wondering if the brand will still perform adequately from the record;
With this many hours and more;
Before numerous problems will occur.
In plain words;
Except for parts, are they worth consideration?
sraab928 posted 06-27-2009 02:57 PM ET (US)
Serge, If it was me I would avoid them with that many hours. Now if you got a deal you couldn't walk away from (for me about $3k)then that would be different story. There are good deals to be had on motors, if that is what you are in the market for, you just have to keep an eye on the local classifieds. I have found auctions to be a bit tough when its a popular item. Obviously this is not for the 19, do you have another project looking for repower?
Ritzyrags posted 06-27-2009 04:41 PM ET (US)
Hey Scott,
The only Whalers offered have been the odd Sport and a couple of Montauks at premium prices.
Since fuel is above $5 a gallon;
And that my Merc has been known to be a thirsty one;
A four stroke would make a lot of sense.
It is up to fifty one, with three days left.

sraab928 posted 06-27-2009 05:10 PM ET (US)
That motor would be too heavy for the 19.
jamesmylesmcp posted 06-27-2009 05:18 PM ET (US)
Serge,
Less HP but
seems to have
been broken
in.
http://gsaauctions.gov/gsaauctions/aucitsrh/
jamesmylesmcp posted 06-27-2009 05:20 PM ET (US)
Sorry,
click om
boats then
Johnson.
Ritzyrags posted 06-27-2009 06:23 PM ET (US)
Yes that may be true;
But not for the 21 Ribside that I will be getting..
If I'm lucky...
Anyway,
Check it out.
http://www.bcauction.ca/open.dll/showDisplayDocument?sessionID=16454978& disID=5760619&docType=Tender&dis_version_nos=2&doc_search_by=Tend& docTypeQual=TN
And importantly the shipping will have to be factored in.
Jim;
Would this be a 150 Johnson?
Peter posted 06-27-2009 08:21 PM ET (US)
It's a Johnson 150 with an estimated 12,000 hours. I've got the same outboard (recreational version) on the back of my Outrage 18. Let's see, if my recreational version lasts half as long, it will be 2139 before I'll need to repower. ;)
Tohsgib posted 06-29-2009 12:14 PM ET (US)
Ritz..here is a 03 225 w/63 hours for $7500:
http://sarasota.craigslist.org/boa/1237607453.html
Ritzyrags posted 06-30-2009 10:17 AM ET (US)
Thanks for the reference.
As you can tell by now;
Things are rather expensive in these parts.
I will be keeping a close eye on the final minutes of the bidding..
Tohsgib posted 06-30-2009 12:35 PM ET (US)
Ritzy you need a 20" shaft for a ribside. Since gas is so $$ up there I HGHLY suggest a 115-150hp 4 stroke/DFI which will be plenty fast and get fantastic MPG compared to a 225. My 19 Revenge which is heavier than your 21 does 40 with a 115 and gets about 5-6mpg at cruise(4-5gph) and averages about 2gph per tank. At $5/gal I would strongly look in that direction. I go 80-100+ miles between fillups and usually burn about 20gals.
Ritzyrags posted 06-30-2009 04:38 PM ET (US)
Truly invaluable advice.
Will be keeping it in mind.
Thanks.

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Author	Topic: Yamaha 225 Value.
Ritzyrags	posted 06-25-2009 04:39 PM ET (US) This came up as a possibility. Yamaha 225 Four Strokes 2003. http://img208.imageshack.us/i/yamaha2252003.jpg/ No prop, No cable. 1800 HRS. Ball park figure of it's worth?
jimh	posted 06-25-2009 07:58 PM ET (US) If an automobile travelled at 55-MPH for 1,800-hours it would have gone 99,000 miles. In the case of a boat, that would be equivalent to driving uphill at a good grade for 99,000 miles.
Ritzyrags	posted 06-25-2009 11:21 PM ET (US) Thanks for making it easy to read Jim; But I think that you may have forgotten to state a dollar figure.
Jeff	posted 06-25-2009 11:35 PM ET (US) Serge, Was that a commercially used mot or? The one s on GSA with that many hours go for $2000 - $3750. More than I personally think they are worth since commercially used motors tend live a hard life.
Ritzyrags	posted 06-26-2009 09:02 AM ET (US) Yes it is commercial and an auction. The bidding is at $3200 and the reserve has not been met yet. There also maybe worn leg parts.. The unit goes for 15 to 20 Ks new, right?
Jeff	posted 06-26-2009 09:12 AM ET (US) Ji m Tha nk you f or chang ing t he format ting of my r eply to enha nce yo ur attem pt at humor.
Tohsgib	posted 06-26-2009 11:01 AM ET (US) I would not touch it with a 10' pole unless I knew the former owner and how it was cared for and serviced.
TransAm	posted 06-26-2009 11:02 AM ET (US) No worries, those Yamaha V-6 4-strokes are "bullet-proof",;-)
Tohsgib	posted 06-26-2009 11:47 AM ET (US) Really..next time I see FNO I will shoot his with my 357 and see.
Tohsgib	posted 06-26-2009 11:49 AM ET (US) Actually they look real clean and I assume fresh water use by the scumline.
Ritzyrags	posted 06-26-2009 03:49 PM ET (US) Yes, Fresh water all right. The bid is up to 4600 and four days left. To the best of your recollection. How much do they go for brand new in 03?
kglinz	posted 06-26-2009 07:44 PM ET (US) MSRP was $17,440. I don't know what I paid for mine because there was a trade involved. Maybe $13,000. $4,600 is probably a fair retail, but it's no deal.
jimh	posted 06-26-2009 07:59 PM ET (US) In Ritzy's threads no line can be longer than 12 characters.
jimh	posted 06-27-2009 09:50 AM ET (US) If the engine's new cost was $17,500, and we assume its remaining value is $4,600, we see that the value is about 26-percent of original. We then project this notion of remaining value onto the operating hours, thus at 1,800 hours we have used up 74-percent of the engine's useful life, assuming a linear relationship among all factors. This implies that the useful life is about 1,800-hour / 0.74 = 2,430-hours Since 1,800 hours have already been used, the engine has remaining 2,430 - 1,800 = 632-hours of useful life before its value declines to zero.
Ritzyrags	posted 06-27-2009 11:25 AM ET (US) Knowing the auction's ways; I will predict that these items may go up to 5k and more. Just wondering if the brand will still perform adequately from the record; With this many hours and more; Before numerous problems will occur. In plain words; Except for parts, are they worth consideration?
sraab928	posted 06-27-2009 02:57 PM ET (US) Serge, If it was me I would avoid them with that many hours. Now if you got a deal you couldn't walk away from (for me about $3k)then that would be different story. There are good deals to be had on motors, if that is what you are in the market for, you just have to keep an eye on the local classifieds. I have found auctions to be a bit tough when its a popular item. Obviously this is not for the 19, do you have another project looking for repower?
Ritzyrags	posted 06-27-2009 04:41 PM ET (US) Hey Scott, The only Whalers offered have been the odd Sport and a couple of Montauks at premium prices. Since fuel is above $5 a gallon; And that my Merc has been known to be a thirsty one; A four stroke would make a lot of sense. It is up to fifty one, with three days left.
sraab928	posted 06-27-2009 05:10 PM ET (US) That motor would be too heavy for the 19.
jamesmylesmcp	posted 06-27-2009 05:18 PM ET (US) Serge, Less HP but seems to have been broken in. http://gsaauctions.gov/gsaauctions/aucitsrh/
jamesmylesmcp	posted 06-27-2009 05:20 PM ET (US) Sorry, click om boats then Johnson.
Ritzyrags	posted 06-27-2009 06:23 PM ET (US) Yes that may be true; But not for the 21 Ribside that I will be getting.. If I'm lucky... Anyway, Check it out. http://www.bcauction.ca/open.dll/showDisplayDocument?sessionID=16454978& disID=5760619&docType=Tender&dis_version_nos=2&doc_search_by=Tend& docTypeQual=TN And importantly the shipping will have to be factored in. Jim; Would this be a 150 Johnson?
Peter	posted 06-27-2009 08:21 PM ET (US) It's a Johnson 150 with an estimated 12,000 hours. I've got the same outboard (recreational version) on the back of my Outrage 18. Let's see, if my recreational version lasts half as long, it will be 2139 before I'll need to repower. ;)
Tohsgib	posted 06-29-2009 12:14 PM ET (US) Ritz..here is a 03 225 w/63 hours for $7500: http://sarasota.craigslist.org/boa/1237607453.html
Ritzyrags	posted 06-30-2009 10:17 AM ET (US) Thanks for the reference. As you can tell by now; Things are rather expensive in these parts. I will be keeping a close eye on the final minutes of the bidding..
Tohsgib	posted 06-30-2009 12:35 PM ET (US) Ritzy you need a 20" shaft for a ribside. Since gas is so $$ up there I HGHLY suggest a 115-150hp 4 stroke/DFI which will be plenty fast and get fantastic MPG compared to a 225. My 19 Revenge which is heavier than your 21 does 40 with a 115 and gets about 5-6mpg at cruise(4-5gph) and averages about 2gph per tank. At $5/gal I would strongly look in that direction. I go 80-100+ miles between fillups and usually burn about 20gals.
Ritzyrags	posted 06-30-2009 04:38 PM ET (US) Truly invaluable advice. Will be keeping it in mind. Thanks.