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Sal DiMercurio posted 07-24-2009 08:26 PM ET (US)
Wow, the price of decarbing your engine with Sea Foam went up a couple bucks.
Napa Auto supply went up $2.00 to $9.40 a 16 oz can, & Walmart went up almost $3.00 per can, from $5.89 to $8.68 per 16 oz can.
Sal

fishgutz posted 07-24-2009 09:18 PM ET (US)
Yup. Mercury Quickclean went up, too.
cgodfrey posted 07-24-2009 10:26 PM ET (US)
Anyone know a good place to buy the bigger bulk sized cans (half gallon?) of Seafoam? I haven't seen them in years. Froogle.com's not giving me anything.
CG
PS: If you've never Seafoamed an automobile engine, don't do it in the suburbs. Go find somewhere remote and unpopulated, so as not to make a spectacle of yourself and frighten your neighbors. Unless you like that sort of thing.
number9 posted 07-24-2009 10:58 PM ET (US)
Saw gallons of Seafoam at Advance Auto a couple weeks ago, don't recall price.
lizard posted 07-24-2009 11:18 PM ET (US)
I have been paying $9 for Sea Foam for some time now, at least 2 yrs.
cgodfrey- boy are you right about that. The cloud and stream of blackness that came out was embarrassing. When I was spotted by a neighbor I wanted to shrink into nothingness. It reminded of the time my mother caught my younger brother with a Playboy magazine and the look on his face.
PeteB88 posted 07-24-2009 11:53 PM ET (US)
Menard's is cheapest in my area.
TransAm posted 07-25-2009 05:37 AM ET (US)
Advance Auto Parts sells gallons of Seafoam for $59.00 in my area.
R T M posted 07-25-2009 08:51 AM ET (US)
Why so expensive? lack of competition? Also gearcase oil has about doubled in the last year or so.
rich/Binkie
deepwater posted 07-25-2009 09:16 AM ET (US)
RTM,, The expense is because they have a profit margin per unit and they haven't adjusted it to the shrinking economy yet,,You see everyday sales now of 60 and 70% off,,that was most of the profit thats being taken away,,thats how much they have been marking up products and they are still making a profit,, only now the consumer/cash flow has been reduced,,I believe if the hourly wage at some stores was changed to salary and the store was only open say 8,hrs a day and 1 1/2 hours was allotted per-day after closing to stock/straiting up many stores would stay in business and keep all the employees working
dscew posted 07-25-2009 11:30 AM ET (US)
Menards is the cheapest on everything. What a wonderful store.
PeteB88 posted 07-25-2009 12:54 PM ET (US)
Has anyone bought paint thinner or mineral spirits lately? Like $10/gallon?
Chuck Tribolet posted 07-27-2009 12:57 AM ET (US)
"If you've never Seafoamed an automobile engine, don't do it in the suburbs. Go find somewhere remote and unpopulated, so as not to make a spectacle of yourself and frighten your neighbors. Unless you like that sort of thing."
Here's the video, courtesy of the Nicoclub.com:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tBDvBoRq00

Chuck
Jeff posted 07-27-2009 01:06 AM ET (US)
Videos like Chuck posted are why I think the price has gone up. Honestly, there has been a ground swell of people doing this "fogging" for fun. There has been a lot of kids (god I am starting to sound old) on the performance and sport compact car boards are posting threads and videos of them fogging the neighborhood out while mom and dad are at work. With this new found demand I am sure people are just trying to make a couple extra dollars on the new high demand for the product.
number9 posted 07-27-2009 09:31 AM ET (US)
Per MSDS by weight:
Pale Oil .40-.60
Naphtha .25-.35.00
IPA .10-.20
A home brew may be in order.
lakeman posted 07-27-2009 10:20 AM ET (US)
Wally World, $8.87 last year it was $6.87 I think.
cohasett73 posted 07-27-2009 10:35 AM ET (US)
IPA
GENERAL DESCRIPTION

Isopropanol is a clear and flammable liquid at room temperature with odour resembles that of a mixture of ethanol and acetone; completely miscible with water, ethanol, acetone, chloroform, and benzene; melting at -89 C and boiling at 82 C. It undergoes all chemical reactions typical of secondary alcohols. It reacts violently with strong oxidizing agents. In a fire, it may decompose to form toxic gases, such as carbon monoxide. It is produced from propene by indirect hydration (strong-acid process) or direct catalytic reduction of acetone. It is a low cost solvent in many applications as . Isopropanol is similar to ethyl alcohol in solvent properties and evaporation rate. Its high latent solvent power for cellulose nitrate, cellulose acetate butyrate and cellulose acetate propionate, along with its moderate evaporation rate and its complete miscibility with most solvents, make it useful in lacquers, inks and thinners. Isopropanol is a mature commodity which is projected to grow at a global rate of 1 to 3 percent per year. IPA consumption for the production of monoisopropylamine for herbicides (primarily glyphosate) is expected to be the fastest growing segment, while ketone derivatives used as solvents in coatings and inks will remain flat or increase only slightly. Government regulations covering volatile organic compounds have been, and will continue to be, a major consideration in future planning by IPA producers. IPA is used also in the production of acetone (oxidation of isopropanol is now the major source of acetone) and its derivatives and other chemicals (such as isopropyl acetate, isopropylamine, diisopropyl ether, isopropyl xanthate, fatty acid esters, herbicidal esters, and aluminium isopropoxide). Other uses include the application as a coolant in beer manufacture, a coupling agent, a dehydrating agent, a polymerization modifier in the production of polyvinyl fluoride, a foam inhibitor, a de-icing agent, a preservative, a heat-exchange medium, and in windscreen wiper concentrates. It is also used as a flavouring agent and in household and personal care products, pharmaceuticals.
lizard posted 07-27-2009 11:49 AM ET (US)
Exactly Chuck.
Except mine was a 1985 Johnson 90 hp, whose prior owner may not have cleaned it out in a while. I had smoke like that, but it was jet black.
Coupled with the noise of running the outboard, I was the neighborhood pariah.
Don88outrage posted 07-27-2009 04:55 PM ET (US)
It's still a bargain compared to the outboard manufactures products. Use it in the deisel tractor, the truck and the outboards, good stuff.
Newtauk1 posted 07-27-2009 09:55 PM ET (US)
Classic CW replies to explain an increase in Sea Foams retail price. One forum member claims sales are down 60%-70% despite any evidence or reference to facts. Another claims sales are up and demand is the explanation to why the retail price is up and references YouTube as evidence.
Has anyone actually called the manufacturer and asked what the increase is due to? Good stuff ...keep it coming. I think Elvis just bough the company and raised the retail price to fuel his drug habit.
Newtauk1 posted 07-27-2009 09:59 PM ET (US)
What thread Number9 and Cohasset are responding to is beyond me? Price of Sea Foam. Has pot been legalized?
R T M posted 07-27-2009 10:00 PM ET (US)
Junkyard 105 Chrysler powerhead, running with Seafoam.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c191/floridaboy2053/ chrysler4cylinder-seafoam.jpg
rich/Binkie
number9 posted 07-27-2009 11:00 PM ET (US)
Newtauk1,
Responding to the TOPIC...unlike some others.
Some might be able to figure out my reply referenced the MSDS of Seafoam and clearly describes it's ingredients and approximate proportions.
Hence saying it may be time to mix your own.
When the company says it only contains petro products and the MSDS max %s add up to greater than 100%, go figure.
David Pendleton posted 07-28-2009 01:26 AM ET (US)
I use SeaFoam in nearly every IC engine I own, including my Whaler and a snowmobile. The only engine I don't run it in is my Dodge CTD.
I've never experienced the "fogging" or white smoke emissions as depicted in the posted videos.
The company that manufactures SeaFoam is headquartered here in MN, but I don't know that it's actually made here. I usually buy it by the case, and I haven't bought any since 2005.
I'll price some tomorrow.
Newtauk1 posted 07-28-2009 09:53 AM ET (US)
Thanks Number9. Any idea what the cost would be to mix up a batch? Is there anything in Sea Foam that is proprietary such as the formula itself?
cohasett73 posted 07-28-2009 10:23 AM ET (US)
I just thought that some of the more scientifically minded members might want to know why Sea Foam works. Binkie might think IPA was India Pale Ale ;-)
Tom from Rubicon,WI
Newtauk1 posted 07-28-2009 11:46 AM ET (US)
I could use a good IPA right now. Yes Sea Foam is over $10.00 right now at the local NAPA. I used to see it under $7.00.
R T M posted 07-28-2009 11:46 AM ET (US)
Binkie might think IPA was India Pale Ale ;-)
I don`t drink that swill, its strictly Margaritas for me, on the rocks.
rich/Binkie
Keeper posted 07-28-2009 11:59 AM ET (US)
That was funny !
R T M posted 07-28-2009 12:07 PM ET (US)
Keep those margaritas flowing, especially when I`m sitting around the pool in my lounge chair, flip flops, white shorts, bright colored Hawaiian shirt and Panama hat talking Whaler trash, to any chicks that will listen.
Yea, they dig Whalers round here.
rich/Binkie
number9 posted 07-28-2009 12:12 PM ET (US)
A one gallon batch should be less than $20 to mix your own. About $10 per gallon if you purchase enough >99% IPA to mix five gallons or opt to use Apothecary Isopropyl Alcohol 91% to mix a single gallon.
Proprietary? Good question but didn't see anything that leads me to believe they provide any warranties other than their reputation.
R T M posted 07-28-2009 12:31 PM ET (US)
number9, You really know what your doing. Did you you grow up in the hill of Kentucky, making "shine".

rich/Binkie
cohasett73 posted 07-29-2009 10:55 AM ET (US)
My primary concern is what IPA does to fiberglass gas tanks
and rubber engine components on our Whalers?
Tom from Rubicon,WI
Newtauk1 posted 07-29-2009 11:39 PM ET (US)
good point on the ipa.
number9 posted 07-30-2009 08:50 AM ET (US)
Do agree with the point about IPA and effect on glass tanks, engine seals. "They" say Sea Foam has been used for 65 years and many of those years fiberglass tanks were being installed in boats. No defense of their product intended here, don't own any stock and may try to mix my own. 1-2 ounces per gallon of gas is between <1% to 1.5%. Oil ratio <5%. Of course we never read about the horror stories that may have resulted from it's recommended use.
Link to many gas treatments:
[url}http://www.fuel-testers.com/is_gas_additive_safe_with_e10_list.html[/url]

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Author	Topic: Price of "Sea Foam".
Sal DiMercurio	posted 07-24-2009 08:26 PM ET (US) Wow, the price of decarbing your engine with Sea Foam went up a couple bucks. Napa Auto supply went up $2.00 to $9.40 a 16 oz can, & Walmart went up almost $3.00 per can, from $5.89 to $8.68 per 16 oz can. Sal
fishgutz	posted 07-24-2009 09:18 PM ET (US) Yup. Mercury Quickclean went up, too.
cgodfrey	posted 07-24-2009 10:26 PM ET (US) Anyone know a good place to buy the bigger bulk sized cans (half gallon?) of Seafoam? I haven't seen them in years. Froogle.com's not giving me anything. CG PS: If you've never Seafoamed an automobile engine, don't do it in the suburbs. Go find somewhere remote and unpopulated, so as not to make a spectacle of yourself and frighten your neighbors. Unless you like that sort of thing.
number9	posted 07-24-2009 10:58 PM ET (US) Saw gallons of Seafoam at Advance Auto a couple weeks ago, don't recall price.
lizard	posted 07-24-2009 11:18 PM ET (US) I have been paying $9 for Sea Foam for some time now, at least 2 yrs. cgodfrey- boy are you right about that. The cloud and stream of blackness that came out was embarrassing. When I was spotted by a neighbor I wanted to shrink into nothingness. It reminded of the time my mother caught my younger brother with a Playboy magazine and the look on his face.
PeteB88	posted 07-24-2009 11:53 PM ET (US) Menard's is cheapest in my area.
TransAm	posted 07-25-2009 05:37 AM ET (US) Advance Auto Parts sells gallons of Seafoam for $59.00 in my area.
R T M	posted 07-25-2009 08:51 AM ET (US) Why so expensive? lack of competition? Also gearcase oil has about doubled in the last year or so. rich/Binkie
deepwater	posted 07-25-2009 09:16 AM ET (US) RTM,, The expense is because they have a profit margin per unit and they haven't adjusted it to the shrinking economy yet,,You see everyday sales now of 60 and 70% off,,that was most of the profit thats being taken away,,thats how much they have been marking up products and they are still making a profit,, only now the consumer/cash flow has been reduced,,I believe if the hourly wage at some stores was changed to salary and the store was only open say 8,hrs a day and 1 1/2 hours was allotted per-day after closing to stock/straiting up many stores would stay in business and keep all the employees working
dscew	posted 07-25-2009 11:30 AM ET (US) Menards is the cheapest on everything. What a wonderful store.
PeteB88	posted 07-25-2009 12:54 PM ET (US) Has anyone bought paint thinner or mineral spirits lately? Like $10/gallon?
Chuck Tribolet	posted 07-27-2009 12:57 AM ET (US) "If you've never Seafoamed an automobile engine, don't do it in the suburbs. Go find somewhere remote and unpopulated, so as not to make a spectacle of yourself and frighten your neighbors. Unless you like that sort of thing." Here's the video, courtesy of the Nicoclub.com: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tBDvBoRq00 Chuck
Jeff	posted 07-27-2009 01:06 AM ET (US) Videos like Chuck posted are why I think the price has gone up. Honestly, there has been a ground swell of people doing this "fogging" for fun. There has been a lot of kids (god I am starting to sound old) on the performance and sport compact car boards are posting threads and videos of them fogging the neighborhood out while mom and dad are at work. With this new found demand I am sure people are just trying to make a couple extra dollars on the new high demand for the product.
number9	posted 07-27-2009 09:31 AM ET (US) Per MSDS by weight: Pale Oil .40-.60 Naphtha .25-.35.00 IPA .10-.20 A home brew may be in order.
lakeman	posted 07-27-2009 10:20 AM ET (US) Wally World, $8.87 last year it was $6.87 I think.
cohasett73	posted 07-27-2009 10:35 AM ET (US) IPA GENERAL DESCRIPTION Isopropanol is a clear and flammable liquid at room temperature with odour resembles that of a mixture of ethanol and acetone; completely miscible with water, ethanol, acetone, chloroform, and benzene; melting at -89 C and boiling at 82 C. It undergoes all chemical reactions typical of secondary alcohols. It reacts violently with strong oxidizing agents. In a fire, it may decompose to form toxic gases, such as carbon monoxide. It is produced from propene by indirect hydration (strong-acid process) or direct catalytic reduction of acetone. It is a low cost solvent in many applications as . Isopropanol is similar to ethyl alcohol in solvent properties and evaporation rate. Its high latent solvent power for cellulose nitrate, cellulose acetate butyrate and cellulose acetate propionate, along with its moderate evaporation rate and its complete miscibility with most solvents, make it useful in lacquers, inks and thinners. Isopropanol is a mature commodity which is projected to grow at a global rate of 1 to 3 percent per year. IPA consumption for the production of monoisopropylamine for herbicides (primarily glyphosate) is expected to be the fastest growing segment, while ketone derivatives used as solvents in coatings and inks will remain flat or increase only slightly. Government regulations covering volatile organic compounds have been, and will continue to be, a major consideration in future planning by IPA producers. IPA is used also in the production of acetone (oxidation of isopropanol is now the major source of acetone) and its derivatives and other chemicals (such as isopropyl acetate, isopropylamine, diisopropyl ether, isopropyl xanthate, fatty acid esters, herbicidal esters, and aluminium isopropoxide). Other uses include the application as a coolant in beer manufacture, a coupling agent, a dehydrating agent, a polymerization modifier in the production of polyvinyl fluoride, a foam inhibitor, a de-icing agent, a preservative, a heat-exchange medium, and in windscreen wiper concentrates. It is also used as a flavouring agent and in household and personal care products, pharmaceuticals.
lizard	posted 07-27-2009 11:49 AM ET (US) Exactly Chuck. Except mine was a 1985 Johnson 90 hp, whose prior owner may not have cleaned it out in a while. I had smoke like that, but it was jet black. Coupled with the noise of running the outboard, I was the neighborhood pariah.
Don88outrage	posted 07-27-2009 04:55 PM ET (US) It's still a bargain compared to the outboard manufactures products. Use it in the deisel tractor, the truck and the outboards, good stuff.
Newtauk1	posted 07-27-2009 09:55 PM ET (US) Classic CW replies to explain an increase in Sea Foams retail price. One forum member claims sales are down 60%-70% despite any evidence or reference to facts. Another claims sales are up and demand is the explanation to why the retail price is up and references YouTube as evidence. Has anyone actually called the manufacturer and asked what the increase is due to? Good stuff ...keep it coming. I think Elvis just bough the company and raised the retail price to fuel his drug habit.
Newtauk1	posted 07-27-2009 09:59 PM ET (US) What thread Number9 and Cohasset are responding to is beyond me? Price of Sea Foam. Has pot been legalized?
R T M	posted 07-27-2009 10:00 PM ET (US) Junkyard 105 Chrysler powerhead, running with Seafoam. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c191/floridaboy2053/ chrysler4cylinder-seafoam.jpg rich/Binkie
number9	posted 07-27-2009 11:00 PM ET (US) Newtauk1, Responding to the TOPIC...unlike some others. Some might be able to figure out my reply referenced the MSDS of Seafoam and clearly describes it's ingredients and approximate proportions. Hence saying it may be time to mix your own. When the company says it only contains petro products and the MSDS max %s add up to greater than 100%, go figure.
David Pendleton	posted 07-28-2009 01:26 AM ET (US) I use SeaFoam in nearly every IC engine I own, including my Whaler and a snowmobile. The only engine I don't run it in is my Dodge CTD. I've never experienced the "fogging" or white smoke emissions as depicted in the posted videos. The company that manufactures SeaFoam is headquartered here in MN, but I don't know that it's actually made here. I usually buy it by the case, and I haven't bought any since 2005. I'll price some tomorrow.
Newtauk1	posted 07-28-2009 09:53 AM ET (US) Thanks Number9. Any idea what the cost would be to mix up a batch? Is there anything in Sea Foam that is proprietary such as the formula itself?
cohasett73	posted 07-28-2009 10:23 AM ET (US) I just thought that some of the more scientifically minded members might want to know why Sea Foam works. Binkie might think IPA was India Pale Ale ;-) Tom from Rubicon,WI
Newtauk1	posted 07-28-2009 11:46 AM ET (US) I could use a good IPA right now. Yes Sea Foam is over $10.00 right now at the local NAPA. I used to see it under $7.00.
R T M	posted 07-28-2009 11:46 AM ET (US) Binkie might think IPA was India Pale Ale ;-) I don`t drink that swill, its strictly Margaritas for me, on the rocks. rich/Binkie
Keeper	posted 07-28-2009 11:59 AM ET (US) That was funny !
R T M	posted 07-28-2009 12:07 PM ET (US) Keep those margaritas flowing, especially when I`m sitting around the pool in my lounge chair, flip flops, white shorts, bright colored Hawaiian shirt and Panama hat talking Whaler trash, to any chicks that will listen. Yea, they dig Whalers round here. rich/Binkie
number9	posted 07-28-2009 12:12 PM ET (US) A one gallon batch should be less than $20 to mix your own. About $10 per gallon if you purchase enough >99% IPA to mix five gallons or opt to use Apothecary Isopropyl Alcohol 91% to mix a single gallon. Proprietary? Good question but didn't see anything that leads me to believe they provide any warranties other than their reputation.
R T M	posted 07-28-2009 12:31 PM ET (US) number9, You really know what your doing. Did you you grow up in the hill of Kentucky, making "shine". rich/Binkie
cohasett73	posted 07-29-2009 10:55 AM ET (US) My primary concern is what IPA does to fiberglass gas tanks and rubber engine components on our Whalers? Tom from Rubicon,WI
Newtauk1	posted 07-29-2009 11:39 PM ET (US) good point on the ipa.
number9	posted 07-30-2009 08:50 AM ET (US) Do agree with the point about IPA and effect on glass tanks, engine seals. "They" say Sea Foam has been used for 65 years and many of those years fiberglass tanks were being installed in boats. No defense of their product intended here, don't own any stock and may try to mix my own. 1-2 ounces per gallon of gas is between <1% to 1.5%. Oil ratio <5%. Of course we never read about the horror stories that may have resulted from it's recommended use. Link to many gas treatments: [url}http://www.fuel-testers.com/is_gas_additive_safe_with_e10_list.html[/url]