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sapple posted 08-09-2009 08:58 PM ET (US)   Profile for sapple   Send Email to sapple  
After I purchased my 170 Montauk last year I sent a picture of it to one of my friends. In his reply back he asked "why didn't you buy a regular boat?"

What should I tell him?

Sal A posted 08-09-2009 09:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for Sal A  Send Email to Sal A     
I would just take the high road, not tout your choice, but just say it fit your needs as a simple-to-maintain seaworthy boat that fits the area in which you boat.
Kingsteven18 posted 08-09-2009 09:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for Kingsteven18  Send Email to Kingsteven18     
Tell him that regular boats are for regular people.
btb posted 08-09-2009 10:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for btb  Send Email to btb     
Or you could say " that's an interesting question. People who imply there are irregular things about their friends, reveal more about themselves that maybe they should".
Newtauk1 posted 08-09-2009 10:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for Newtauk1    
Tell them that you enjoy buying labels and paying much more for them. Tell them that you hope to have a boat that will be saturated with water in ten years. Tell them that you prefer owning a inferior Mercury outboard because you had no other option. Tell them that you own a Boston Whaler.
jimh posted 08-09-2009 11:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Tell your friend the real reason, and it's the same reason that drew all of us to the Boston Whaler boat initially: it is unsinkable.
maverick posted 08-10-2009 05:20 AM ET (US)     Profile for maverick  Send Email to maverick     
SAFETY, UTILITY, RESALE
Bulldog posted 08-10-2009 05:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bulldog  Send Email to Bulldog     
Tell'em, that in your old age it is tough to remember to put the drain plug in, this boat solves that problem....Jack
Clark Roberts posted 08-10-2009 06:06 AM ET (US)     Profile for Clark Roberts  Send Email to Clark Roberts     
I would not respond with an answer or comment...Don't take the bait.. Clark...SCN
superdave_gv posted 08-10-2009 08:02 AM ET (US)     Profile for superdave_gv  Send Email to superdave_gv     

Hey you never know, this person might be intrigued. Center console boats are definitely not "living room on the sea" like other boats, but...

It's more about years 10 through 30 of boat ownership with Boston Whalers. Compare this to regular boats in the same price/size range at the 10 year mark. Regular boats have often eroded all their resale value, cost much more to maintain (inboards) and lost their luster (odd color scheme has faded, etc). Regular boats are usually in the landfill when Whalers are on their 3rd, 4th, 5th owner.

Phil T posted 08-10-2009 08:05 AM ET (US)     Profile for Phil T  Send Email to Phil T     
Sounds like a case of serious whaler envy. It's contagious, even among friends.
brisboats posted 08-10-2009 08:45 AM ET (US)     Profile for brisboats  Send Email to brisboats     
Because when all else in life seems mundane and regular little bit of irregularity is welcomed.

Brian

Newtauk1 posted 08-10-2009 08:55 AM ET (US)     Profile for Newtauk1    
Seriously. You chose quality. I would ask them to expand upon the question. PS Congrats on your new boat. You get what you pay for.
sapple posted 08-10-2009 09:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for sapple  Send Email to sapple     
My friend was in the Air Force and a big supporter of the military. So I sent him some pics and vids of Whalers engaged in various military operations. In one of the pics, the only major difference between the boat in the pic and mine was the machine gun mounted on the bow. That seemed to convince him this was a good decision after all.
fishgutz posted 08-10-2009 10:02 AM ET (US)     Profile for fishgutz  Send Email to fishgutz     
What's a "regular" boat?

Maybe he meant, "Why didn't you buy a Regulator boat?"

Jkcam posted 08-10-2009 11:06 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jkcam  Send Email to Jkcam     
Does he mean like a "Grady"?
Feejer posted 08-10-2009 02:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for Feejer  Send Email to Feejer     
Whalers are special boat for special people like us........................that didn't come out right. You know what I mean.
WT posted 08-10-2009 03:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for WT  Send Email to WT     
I bought my 170 Montauk instead of a regular boat because my Montauk can do all the following (be not necessarily do them the best);

1) I do not hesitate to take my 170 Montauk 40-50 miles offshore or along the shore from my home port of Bodega Bay, California (weather permitting).

2) I do not hesitate to tow my 170 Montauk 300 miles round trip on a regular basis.

3) I do not hesitate to fish in skinny water for black bass and stripers in the Sacramento Delta and local lakes.

4) Because my 170 Montauk is fuel efficient I do not hesitate to run it from Sacramento to San Francisco on 200 mile round trips.

5) Because it's unsinkable I have taken my Montauk out on days when I should not.

I love my 170 Montauk because of its versatility. :-)

Warren

Buckda posted 08-10-2009 03:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
I didn't want a regular boat.

End of response?

R T M posted 08-10-2009 10:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for R T M    
I don`t think being non sinkable is the main reason folks buy Whalers. Boat sinkings happen, but are rare.

rich/binkie

pglein posted 08-11-2009 05:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for pglein  Send Email to pglein     
I would have simply asked him what he meant by a "regular" boat.

What is not "regular" about a Whaler?

ScooterCO posted 08-12-2009 11:13 AM ET (US)     Profile for ScooterCO  Send Email to ScooterCO     
I didn't want a regular boat, I wanted a real boat.

or

I could afford the destroyer I was looking at so, I bought the next best thing!

Mr T posted 08-12-2009 10:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for Mr T  Send Email to Mr T     
I bought my 170 Montauk instead of a regular boat because my Montauk can do all the following (be not necessarily do them the best);
1) I do not hesitate to take my 170 Montauk 40-50 miles offshore or along the shore from my home port of Bodega Bay, California (weather permitting).

2) I do not hesitate to tow my 170 Montauk 300 miles round trip on a regular basis.

3) I do not hesitate to fish in skinny water for black bass and stripers in the Sacramento Delta and local lakes.

4) Because my 170 Montauk is fuel efficient I do not hesitate to run it from Sacramento to San Francisco on 200 mile round trips.

5) Because it's unsinkable I have taken my Montauk out on days when I should not.

I love my 170 Montauk because of its versatility. :-)

Warren


WORD

highanddry posted 08-12-2009 11:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
A "regular" boat is a sit down, bow rider, I/O, 17 to 21 feet long with the fake radar arch and pointy reverse sheer bow.

I get the same question and it is almost as annoying as hearing about how great the classic Boston Whalers are and how junky the new ones are or a little more Brunswick bashing.

When somebody asks me why I didn't get a "regular" boat I tell them it is a regular boat. They just look at me, I just look at them.

highanddry posted 08-12-2009 11:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
Because you can do this in a real boat and a "regular" boat would fall apart.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8-NwS32RG8

Running from a squall, flat out, wide open, in the Nantucket, GPS is reading around 46 to 48 MPH. it is rough, the storm is coming fast and we are running for the inlet, two boats were caught out and went over, four people were rescued from one by the USCG about 30 minutes later.

Jamber posted 08-13-2009 01:02 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jamber    
Or this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzcOgghNXxA

Not considered a performance boat, but I love the way my Dauntless Accutrack Hull handles the turns at speed. It does pretty good in the nasty stuff as well.
All round a great boat that I have had 10 years now and plan to go another 3-5 years until I can't fight off this "two-footitis" any longer...

Nice video highanddry.

Sapple - I agree with others, I think your friend needs to clarify what he means by regular? Down in FL a center console boat is considered a regular boat. Whaler or not.

highanddry posted 08-13-2009 10:46 AM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
Yeah, know what you mean, a center console outboard is a normal, "regular" boat, WTH does he mean by "regular" I wonder.

I also like your video, nice action. Don't you get tired of hearing how Boston Whalers ride poorely. I seriously doubt any other 19 foot boat would have been able to run any faster under the conditions in my video.

sapple posted 08-13-2009 10:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for sapple  Send Email to sapple     
My friend is not a boater and not familiar with boats. I assume he meant a dual consol, bow rider. I also don't think he meant to disparage Whalers. I think, to him, it just seemed like an unusual choice relative to what he most commonly sees. I was actually amused by the question.
sapple posted 08-13-2009 11:04 AM ET (US)     Profile for sapple  Send Email to sapple     
I have done a lot of boating on inland rivers and lakes and in coastal areas. I have noticed that on inland lakes and rivers I see center consol boats only occasionally, and Whalers rarely. In coastal areas center consol boats seem to be the norm and I see Whalers frequently. Bottom line; The closer I get to the coast, the more Whalers I see.
pglein posted 08-13-2009 12:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for pglein  Send Email to pglein     
sapple,

This is probably true on the east coast. Out here, in saltwater and on the coast, cuddy cabins or boats with an enclosed helm are the most common. It's simply not safe or comfortable to be outside in the wind, waves and weather for much of the year. Inland, bowriders are clearly more common. Center consoles are generally rare everywhere.

Tohsgib posted 08-13-2009 12:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tohsgib  Send Email to Tohsgib     
If I lived on some piss-ant lake Why would I spend the cash on Whaler when I could swim to shore after my boat sank?

Actually if I was inland I would have a huge pontoon boat with A/C, BBQ grill and a water slide. Next to it would be some bad-ass 20' boat with a BBC and a blower coupled to a Jet pump that did 200' long rooster tails at 80mph. Since I live coastal and always have..Whalers it is.

Dauntless_14_TX posted 08-13-2009 03:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dauntless_14_TX  Send Email to Dauntless_14_TX     
I chose my Whaler as for it not being a "regular" boat but a remarkable boat. At only a few inches more than 14 feet, it handles and feels like a big boat to having a 75" beam. How many other "regular" boats can boast of this? Its also 10 years old, I'n the 3rd owner, and still looks new as Whaler owners tend to take very good care of their boats, simply we love them. Though here are my top reasons:

1) Grew up in the Great Lakes and truly know the value of having an unsinkable boat thats seaworthy beyond its length.

2) Built tough and designed by people who love their boats as much as their owners. I'll probably own my boat for decades to come yet.

3) Everyone who doesn't have one, secretly wants one

Ritzyrags posted 08-13-2009 03:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
I think that it is a rather ignorant way to show disapproval.
A more proper way to get your question across would have been;
Number;
10-What's so special about this particular boat?
Or;
9-Do you think that it is big enough?
8-It wasn't the cheapest one that you could find was it?
7-Does it come in blue?
6-Canvas, And what about canvas?
5-If all the passengers lean to the side;
Will it roll over?
4-Can you put an electrical motor on it?
3-I think that the bow looks crooked don't you?
2-Shucks! You're not gonna be seen on the water on that thing will ya?
And Number;
1-I think that it is rather ugly but would you lend it to me every Sunday for the whole summer???

Whaler27 posted 08-13-2009 03:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whaler27  Send Email to Whaler27     
I’m irregular and proud of it.

I always want my guests to be safe from departure until we disembark. I cannot think of a better vessel to accomplish my goal than a Vigilant32.

We don’t mind the gawker’s either.

DeeVee posted 08-13-2009 10:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for DeeVee  Send Email to DeeVee     
To me, my Whaler is the regular boat.

I am not sure exactly why I own a Whaler. It could be the unsinkability. It could be that Whalers don't shudder or complain while operating in less than smooth water conditons. Or maybe its the way the design of these boats combines simple, no nonsense utility with baby butt smooth gelcoat that is easy to maintain. It may be all of the above.

I remember the first Boston Whaler I had ever seen. At the time, I had never owned a boat. A friend of my then future wife's family had a late sixties vintage 13' Sport, with all the railings. He kept the boat at his cabin on Hood Canal, where we were welcome to hang out during hot summer weekends.

I vividly remember how the quality of the interior gelcoat really impressed me, as did the durable stainless steel railing and chromed brass rail hardware. I did not know at the time, that I would own that very boat about 7 years later.

I have never owned another brand of boat, since I bought that 13' Sport. I am now going on 25 years of Boston Whaler ownership. I can't really imagine owning any other boat.

Our boats are the regular boats- all the others are something else.

Doug Vazquez
Shelton, WA

13' Sport
15' Striper
16' Sakonnet
22' Outrage (current)

A2J15Sport posted 08-13-2009 11:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for A2J15Sport  Send Email to A2J15Sport     
"7-Does it come in blue?"


That should read: Does it come in LIKE blue?

norm posted 08-21-2009 07:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for norm  Send Email to norm     
I could be wrong, but I think most of you are over-reacting a bit. I read the statement of "regular boat" to mean the typical Bayliner type runabout that populate our (SF Bay) waters in overwhelming numbers. I would assume he meant "regular boat" to be what the average non boat owner see's the most of on the water. Nothing to get your shorts in a wad about, and maybe a chance for some boater education if he's willing to listen.

On another note, while it's true Whalers don't sink (although they can and do flip), they also don't suffer from hypothermia or drowning. I hear some Whaler owners boast that their boat is unsinkable as if that somehow imparts immortality to them and those with them on the boat in any conditon or circumstance. Without a healthy dose of caution and prudent seamanship we can quite easily die while the beloved Whaler floats on. Ego's beware.

sapple posted 08-21-2009 11:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for sapple  Send Email to sapple     
On the past two weekends I woke up on Sat. morning and while sipping coffee and still foggy I was saying to myself, Im not sure if I feel like going boating today or not. Then I watched the videos that Jamber and Highanddry posted. Within 30 min. I was hitching my Montauk to my truck and was on my way.

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