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ContinuousWave Whaler Moderated Discussion Areas ContinuousWave: The Whaler GAM or General Area 1974 Revenge 21 Specifications
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Author | Topic: 1974 Revenge 21 Specifications |
1974revenge |
posted 03-01-2010 01:55 PM ET (US)
Hello all, I am very excited to be the brand new owner of a 1974 Revenge 21 with a 150 Mercury on the stern! I get it delivered next week and had a few questions. First, if anyone has a copy of the original brochure they could email, [sending a copy] would be awesome. I would like to know:what is the fuel capacity? [The boat] has an internal tank. Also are there any [problems] I should look for in particular with this model? Thanks in advance and thanks for all the information on this forum! |
Tohsgib |
posted 03-01-2010 02:19 PM ET (US)
40 gal in hull tank. Make sure it is fine, major $$ to replace. Make sure gauge is accurate. With 40 gals and a V6 you have roughly less than 4 hours at cruise, hate to run dry. Double check the cap to the hull bonding as well. |
1974revenge |
posted 03-01-2010 03:18 PM ET (US)
Thank you for the info... A couple of other questions came up... She has a kicker bracket on the stern, what length shaft outboard does she use? Right now she only has the 2 seats up front, I would like to have additional seating, livewell, etc. If I get those cooler type seat combos, what is the best way to mount to the deck? |
2manyboats |
posted 03-01-2010 03:26 PM ET (US)
Our 1973 Revenge had a 2.5 liter 150 efi Mercury on it when we got it 5 years ago. It would run just under 50mph and got about 2.5 mpg at cruise. We replaced the Mercury with a Honda 130, we now top out at about 40 and get almost 5mpg. The fuel tank and backing for the floor panel over the tank had been replaced right before we bought the boat. You probably will want to check the drain tubes, we had one bad one in the splash well. |
1974revenge |
posted 03-01-2010 03:33 PM ET (US)
Great info! That brings up another question.. I noticed what looks like a drain hole on the forward port side of the hull, below the water line. What is this for? Is she a self bailing hull? I did not notice where a bilge pump was? |
2manyboats |
posted 03-01-2010 05:37 PM ET (US)
The forward drain is the anchor locker, we leave that plug in. I have not tried ours with the rear plug out, but while the aft bilge and rigging tunnel would get water, I don't think it would go over the floor. I installed an automatic pump in back near the stern plug. Even with the 500lb Honda we sit a little bow down at rest. |
1974revenge |
posted 03-01-2010 05:44 PM ET (US)
Thank you again for the info. I get the impression that this model is bow heavy? I am going to add a Yamaha kicker on the stern as well to help a bit, but I assume once she pops on plane, she rides fine?? |
JDJET |
posted 03-01-2010 07:25 PM ET (US)
You purchased a great hull! I have a 1976 Revenge with twin 1975 70hp Johnson's that look brand new. I love this boat. The little 70's sip fuel and she tops out around 36 mph with 17" stainless props. Not a rocket ship but very economical. I have a 1976 135hp Johnson laying around and if I can find a sister motor, I should be able to get the Revenge airborne like a seaplane. ;-) Good Luck with her. Jim |
1974revenge |
posted 03-01-2010 07:43 PM ET (US)
Thanks Jim, Any suggestions on bimini top sizes/dimensions for her? And any other option that you might recommend? |
Tohsgib |
posted 03-01-2010 07:50 PM ET (US)
Do NOT listen to people about the last question...measure yourself. Some might have a bimini that fits their needs but won't fit yours. Not too hard to measure it yourself. I have a full enclosure made custom. Wonderfull but I still would mod it to better fit my needs, not the guy who made it. |
1974revenge |
posted 03-01-2010 08:12 PM ET (US)
Thanks, I like the full enclosure option... Can you post any photos I can see? |
Jeff |
posted 03-01-2010 08:40 PM ET (US)
For the brochure I would highly recommend you get Tom Clark's CD set. It has every brochure you could ever dream of needing on it. |
jimh |
posted 03-01-2010 08:45 PM ET (US)
The specifications for your boat are listed in the REFERENCE Section. There are some specifications missing. If you would like to contribute missing information, please send it to me via email, and I will be glad to add it. See http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/specifications. html#hulls20-22 |
Tom W Clark |
posted 03-01-2010 09:09 PM ET (US)
The classic 2.0 liter Mercury 150 burns 7.5 GPH at its optimal cruise speed of about 4200 RPM. At 4200 RPM a Revenge 21 should be able to do about 35 MPH. Its 40 gallon tank should provide a little more than 5 hours of running time and a range of up to 175 statute miles. |
1974revenge |
posted 03-01-2010 09:19 PM ET (US)
Wow, you guys are an amazing source of information! Bravo! |
1974revenge |
posted 03-01-2010 09:38 PM ET (US)
Ok, anyone know the best shaft length for a kicker motor on the 21 revenge? |
Tohsgib |
posted 03-01-2010 10:26 PM ET (US)
Agreed Tom if you choose to have no reserve. I for one like to know there is at least an hours time left in my tank...therefore like I said it would be roughly less than 4 hours at cruise. My 175 burned about 8gph at cruise which was about 30mph which is also what LHG stated with his 150 Merc on his Banana. My 115 yields "about" twice the range at roughly 25-26mph at cruise. |
Tom W Clark |
posted 03-01-2010 10:43 PM ET (US)
Agreed Nick. What constitutes a safe reserve is a personal choice which is why I said up to... 8 GPH sounds about right for a 175 HP motor which is larger than a 150 HP motor. If your 115 can double to fuel mileage of the 175, then the range (by your standards) is would still be 240 miles on the 40 gallon tank, which is pretty darn good for a little boat like this. Just how far you planning to go? My point is simply that 1974revenge should not be put off by the 40 gallon capacity of his new boat. It will be fine. Add some portable on-deck tanks for long trips and be happy. |
jamesmylesmcp |
posted 03-02-2010 06:18 AM ET (US)
Lots of pictures here. http://www.classicbanana.com/modbanana.html |
Tohsgib |
posted 03-02-2010 01:41 PM ET (US)
Main reason it doubles is per tank GPH. The 4 stroke is os efficient at slow speeds that my GPH per tank is as much as 60% better than my GPH per tank with the 175. The 175 would do 50+ which was kinda fun in that boat. 74...I posted a pic of my top on your other thread about biminis. Lastly my old 74 Revenge had a problem with the tank vent or ?? If you filled it up too fast it would blow back in your face, tastes like hell. |
1974revenge |
posted 03-02-2010 01:57 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the bimini photo..great looking boat and top. |
dino54904 |
posted 03-02-2010 02:04 PM ET (US)
You asked about shaft length for a kicker. I have a similar vintage 19'BW. Originally I had a 20" shaft merc on the back and when rolling over 3' seas the prop would come out of the water when rolling down the backside of a wave. I switched to a 25" shaft Yamaha T8 and have found it to be the perfect kicker for that boat. It would work fine for your's as well. One of the things to keep an eye on is that internal fuel tank. It sits in a cavity that tends to collect water and moisture which will lead to surface corrosion that will eventually eat through the metal. I pulled mine, had it pressure checked and then coated it with West System epoxy to seal out moisture. Removing all the foam in the tank cavity and replacing it with bedding slats that allows air to circulate around the tank helps keep the exterior tank surface from corroding as well. I would suggest, for the time being, to install a Racor fuel / water separator between the tank and the engine. It has a clear bowl incorporated into it that allows you to see if there is water getting into your fuel. If you pick up water in that filter on a consistant basis it is time to give the tank or fuel hoses some attention. As for the forward cooler seats...there are wooden chocks that are made to secure the cooler to the deck with bungee cord. Somewhere on the site are dimentional drawings if you want to make them yourself or Specialty Marine offers some already made. Either way make sure the ones you make or buy are made from plywood rather than solid stock. With solid stock chocks the curved extensions tend to break at the grain of the wood. I made this mistake on the first set I made. Most people use 72 quart Igloos in this application but the 94 quart size works as well. As for reserve fuel...on my 19' the fuel pickup is at the far aft portion of the tank. I think this is true for your boat as well. But... the fuel gauge pickup is on the far forward end of the tank. The gauge will read empty before the tank is empty...not a bad thing. This means however that while on plane the fuel is way aft and in good position to be used. If you have limited fuel remaining and you come off plane the fuel settles in the tank, or actually flows forward if you are bow heavy, and may not be enough for the fuel pickup to get a consistant draw. I never let the fuel go below 1/4 tank for this reason. If you run into a low fuel situation make sure your crew is positioned aft of the console. On long hauls I carry a 5 gallon jug of fuel just to be safe. There is nothing more useless than a fuel tank full of air. Have fun with the boat. Dino |
Tohsgib |
posted 03-02-2010 02:12 PM ET (US)
My paranoia Tom stems from when I was 15. My father let me use the Revenge to attend the Benihana races off of Pt Pleasant, NJ. It is roughly 100 miles or so roundtrip. With the large displacement 140 Suzuki 2 smoke and a full load of kids, I did not make it back half way or so. Luckily we were able to scrounge up enough dough from the people aboard to barely make it home. When my father went down to the boat the next day and saw it was on fumes...well it was a while before I was allowed to use it again. |
Tohsgib |
posted 03-02-2010 02:16 PM ET (US)
Good point Dino and the Revenge is even more bow heavy in a 19' vs the 21 so the tank gauge is off more in ours than his. The 1/4 tank rule is good and yes check it at idle, not on plane. |
1974revenge |
posted 03-02-2010 02:38 PM ET (US)
Thanks guys for the great tips. I received a copy of the original owners manual and it actually calls for a short shaft kicker motor, but I was concerned about the prop coming out of the water in rough seas (probably the time when I would actually break down and need the kicker!). |
L H G |
posted 03-02-2010 03:15 PM ET (US)
On any boat with a built-in tank, whether the fuel gauge is mechanical or electrical, one needs to kmow gallons remaining at each 1/8 increment on the guage, including "E". On my 1975 Outrage 19, I recently had to do this. First of all, I found out that the built in 40 gal tank (original from factory) actually holds 42.5 gallons. To "calibrate" your fuel gauge, put a temp fuel source in the boat, and run the belly tank virtually dry until the engine actually quits. Then at a marina gas pump, with the boat in the WATER, record total gallons taken at EACH increment, beginning with the "E" and past "F" until the tank if totally full. I make a little card, and leave it in the boat. You will always know gallons remaining at any mark on the gauge. |
Tohsgib |
posted 03-03-2010 12:50 PM ET (US)
Good point as with my 19 she does not take a full charge when on the trailer. |
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