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anthonylisske posted 09-19-2010 10:28 AM ET (US)
I shark and tuna fish off Montauk several times annually. Biggest stuff I ever caught were 9- foot range Mako, 10- to 12-foot Blue Shark and schoolie Blue Fin. I go with a varying bunch of folks and do not have a regular crew, so to speak. I have a 1972 Smoothside with a Yamaha 225 main and a T8 kicker. I went out three weekends ago and took two really seasoned saltwater anglers. They fish three times a week and limit out on anything in season. Nonetheless, my shark and tuna stand-up gear has the waist gimbal and a lumbar back attachment that goes around your back and buckles in the front. In addition to going around your back, it has to lanyard with hooks that hook into the reel so you can just lean back to get the rod tip up and then reel down by leaning forward. Well, their first time out sharking, and the first fish on is a 13-foot Mako. I did not know it was a big Mako until I noticed the reelman, the newbie, smashed head first between my main and auxillary engine after basically flying to the spot faster than I could blink. We got him up, fought the shark for 90-minutes, leadered [the shark] three times, and lost him due to a missed dart. I had the drags set to 15-lbs on 50-wide reels on 80-rods. The line was rippling off as he was almost pulled overboard. Was I being unsafe in some way? I mean, I always want to improve safety on the boat where I can, but should I tie a line around the person, too? I do not have the space for a fighting chair. What do you guys think? Thanks in advance.
jimh posted 09-19-2010 11:08 AM ET (US)
I have no experience in fishing for large fish from a small boat, so I cannot offer any advice. In general, the focus of this website is not at all on the topic of advice about angling for fish. Your narrative described a risky situation. As the famous line from the movie JAWS says, "[You]'re going to need a bigger boat."
anthonylisske posted 09-19-2010 11:24 AM ET (US)
Thanks Jim. I posted in the AGM really to try to understand what, if anything, other folks have done (e.g adding mechanisms to RPS to make it into a fighting chair etc....) to make thier boats more safe to fish big fish given the varied level of crew I bring out.
I did not want to post in mod/repair, but it never really occured to my, based upon my 5 years of big fishing, that someone could be pulled around like that. (the guy was 6'2" and 225lbs.)
I remember the third guy in the boat saying, your lucky he was attached to the rod and reel, or else it you would of lost it in the drink". I just kept think, thank god for that kicker, it is really the only thing that stopped him from going overboard and maybe dying. (the hell with the rod!)
just suprised me and wanted to know if folks had some suggestions. I am all for the "bigger boat" solution, but "mother economics" dictates otherwise.
Thanks for letting me keep the post up. I am reall at a loss
Menemsha69 posted 09-21-2010 04:53 PM ET (US)
This is a marlin, but the same idea...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-rejwG-ufQ
-k
contender posted 09-21-2010 05:05 PM ET (US)
I remember a video (think it was on this site) 3 guys in a 13 whaler catching a large blue fin tuna (over 500lbs.), I think was over in Europe (Italy) some where
Hunk posted 09-21-2010 08:59 PM ET (US)
I think somehow the line hung up on the real so the rod suddenly had no drag. You say he was a newbie so he might have tightened the drag all the way when he saw the line ripping off. Newbies should fish only with the rod in the rod holder. Was he a fly fisherman? LOL
onlyawhaler posted 09-21-2010 11:06 PM ET (US)
Hummmm,
Way out of my league. 20 inch cutthroat trout up here in Utah is the big thrill.
I can only dream. Good luck. Interesting post on the realities on others
Onlyawhaler
Sterling

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Author	Topic: Going Overboard While Shark Fishing
anthonylisske	posted 09-19-2010 10:28 AM ET (US) I shark and tuna fish off Montauk several times annually. Biggest stuff I ever caught were 9- foot range Mako, 10- to 12-foot Blue Shark and schoolie Blue Fin. I go with a varying bunch of folks and do not have a regular crew, so to speak. I have a 1972 Smoothside with a Yamaha 225 main and a T8 kicker. I went out three weekends ago and took two really seasoned saltwater anglers. They fish three times a week and limit out on anything in season. Nonetheless, my shark and tuna stand-up gear has the waist gimbal and a lumbar back attachment that goes around your back and buckles in the front. In addition to going around your back, it has to lanyard with hooks that hook into the reel so you can just lean back to get the rod tip up and then reel down by leaning forward. Well, their first time out sharking, and the first fish on is a 13-foot Mako. I did not know it was a big Mako until I noticed the reelman, the newbie, smashed head first between my main and auxillary engine after basically flying to the spot faster than I could blink. We got him up, fought the shark for 90-minutes, leadered [the shark] three times, and lost him due to a missed dart. I had the drags set to 15-lbs on 50-wide reels on 80-rods. The line was rippling off as he was almost pulled overboard. Was I being unsafe in some way? I mean, I always want to improve safety on the boat where I can, but should I tie a line around the person, too? I do not have the space for a fighting chair. What do you guys think? Thanks in advance.
jimh	posted 09-19-2010 11:08 AM ET (US) I have no experience in fishing for large fish from a small boat, so I cannot offer any advice. In general, the focus of this website is not at all on the topic of advice about angling for fish. Your narrative described a risky situation. As the famous line from the movie JAWS says, "[You]'re going to need a bigger boat."
anthonylisske	posted 09-19-2010 11:24 AM ET (US) Thanks Jim. I posted in the AGM really to try to understand what, if anything, other folks have done (e.g adding mechanisms to RPS to make it into a fighting chair etc....) to make thier boats more safe to fish big fish given the varied level of crew I bring out. I did not want to post in mod/repair, but it never really occured to my, based upon my 5 years of big fishing, that someone could be pulled around like that. (the guy was 6'2" and 225lbs.) I remember the third guy in the boat saying, your lucky he was attached to the rod and reel, or else it you would of lost it in the drink". I just kept think, thank god for that kicker, it is really the only thing that stopped him from going overboard and maybe dying. (the hell with the rod!) just suprised me and wanted to know if folks had some suggestions. I am all for the "bigger boat" solution, but "mother economics" dictates otherwise. Thanks for letting me keep the post up. I am reall at a loss
Menemsha69	posted 09-21-2010 04:53 PM ET (US) This is a marlin, but the same idea... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-rejwG-ufQ -k
contender	posted 09-21-2010 05:05 PM ET (US) I remember a video (think it was on this site) 3 guys in a 13 whaler catching a large blue fin tuna (over 500lbs.), I think was over in Europe (Italy) some where
Hunk	posted 09-21-2010 08:59 PM ET (US) I think somehow the line hung up on the real so the rod suddenly had no drag. You say he was a newbie so he might have tightened the drag all the way when he saw the line ripping off. Newbies should fish only with the rod in the rod holder. Was he a fly fisherman? LOL
onlyawhaler	posted 09-21-2010 11:06 PM ET (US) Hummmm, Way out of my league. 20 inch cutthroat trout up here in Utah is the big thrill. I can only dream. Good luck. Interesting post on the realities on others Onlyawhaler Sterling