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wobstuff posted 09-26-2010 04:59 PM ET (US)
Hi Guys. A guy who lives near me in Ireland has a 15-footer for sale. Do you think that the asking price is reasonable at 3,500 euro, about $2,800 approx. Is the console a homemade job do you think? I think she would look a lot better stripped back and refitted with a less cluttered mahogony seat and console arrangement. Quick replies appreciated,as she wont be around for long I feel!
www.donedeal.ie/boston whaler
Willie,
Galway,
Ireland

jimh posted 09-26-2010 05:29 PM ET (US)
You better check your currency conversion.
jimh posted 09-26-2010 05:30 PM ET (US)
Also check your link: 404--NOT FOUND
wobstuff posted 09-26-2010 05:39 PM ET (US)
Sorry,
Currency converts to $4,700 approx.
The link works fine though?!?!.
www.donedeal.ie should get you in,and then type "boston whaler".
Thanks jimh.
jimh posted 09-26-2010 06:06 PM ET (US)
Please give the URI of the resource you wish us to view.
daveweight posted 09-27-2010 04:38 AM ET (US)
Hi Willie
This could be a difficult question for the Americans to answer, mostly because we pay in Euros or Pounds what the Americans pay in Dollars so your boat would be $3500 in America. That's just the way it is unfortunately.
The link works for me here in the UK, I have looked and I would be interested but the trailer looks tired and is probably rusting from the insides of the tubes outwards so have a good hard prod with a screwdriver.
Standard things you need to check for on a Whaler purchase can be found using the Search facility here but if the boat is not waterlogged and the trailer and outboard check out then you will love Whaler ownership.
David Weight
daveweight posted 09-27-2010 09:40 AM ET (US)
Jimh
Please try this
www.donedeal.co.uk/find/all/for-sale/Ireland/boston%20whaler
Regards
Dave Weight
Jeff posted 09-27-2010 11:17 AM ET (US)
That console seems to be a modified OEM Winged console from Whaler. Interesting to see it on a 15.
As for the price? Someone local would know best but, here in the states that boat could bring $2,500 - $4,500 or so.
One thing I will say is that 3 cylinder Merc was a notorious motor for poor idle and a very rough runner. I hated mine. No matter what I tried I could not get it to idle well while in neutral, nor in gear. That thing was so LOUD as well. It was the only old classic two stroke I ever hated.
The best it ever ran was the weekend before I sold it.
http:/ / smg. photobucket. com/ albums/ v427/ jeff_rohlfing/ ?action=vie w& current=20090906_160856. mp4#!oZZ3QQcurrentZZhttp%3A%2F%2Fsmg. photob ucket. com%2Falbums%2Fv427%2Fjeff_rohlfing%2F%3Faction%3Dview%26current% 3D20090906_160803. mp4%26
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v427/jeff_rohlfing/?action=view& current=20090906_160856.mp4
http:/ / smg. photobucket. com/ albums/ v427/ jeff_rohlfing/ ?action=vie w& current=20090906_160856. mp4#!oZZ2QQcurrentZZhttp%3A%2F%2Fsmg. photob ucket. com%2Falbums%2Fv427%2Fjeff_rohlfing%2F%3Faction%3Dview%26current% 3D20090906_160823. mp4%26
Tohsgib posted 09-27-2010 11:37 AM ET (US)
Engine is a 75-77 so not new in any way. The console I like, the seat I think you could do something better. That boat here might fetch $3500us.
wobstuff posted 09-27-2010 02:07 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the responses guys.
I rang the guy today and made an offer of 2,500 euro,thats 1,000 euro less than the asking price!!
He said he`d have a think about it,so fingers crossed.
Do you think that console would be worth keeping,and if i were to change the seating,what do you think would be more suitable??
Tohsgib posted 09-27-2010 02:19 PM ET (US)
I like the console and it is an OEM console to boot. The seat I would rather see a cooler seat than that, looks heavy as well.
Russ 13 posted 09-27-2010 03:13 PM ET (US)
I like the console also, but would change the seat to
an aluminum framed leaning/post type.
That way you could still have the fuel under it.
I used Carolina Skiff channel on mine to run all the wiring
from the console to the engine area. This along with moving
the battery under the console, opened up the available
deck space, and made for a neat installation.
That hull works VERY well with a 2-stroke 70HP or 90HP Yamaha, as they are very close in weight.
wobstuff posted 09-27-2010 05:49 PM ET (US)
Could the steering wheel be changed to a stainless steel one without too much difficulty??
I don`t think the wheel on the console at the moment does it any justice.
flippa posted 09-27-2010 06:43 PM ET (US)
Steering wheel should be easy enough to change to a stainless one.
I really like the console & seat. Looks like it has a bunch of usable storage spaces. Older motor, so it is key having the kicker.
Where will you be using the boat? Ocean or lakes?

wobstuff posted 09-27-2010 06:52 PM ET (US)
It will be solely be used on lakes.
Where I live in Ireland,I have direct access to Lough Corrib,(Irelands second biggest lake)from the end of my garden.
I can be in Galway city in 30 mins.
I own a Rage 15 at the moment but I`m sick of its unreliability.
If I dont buy this 15ft,I will maybe add an outboard to the Rage instead over the winter.
I love the older classic whalers though,but I can`t afford to have 2 boats. I would really hate to sell the Rage 15 onto someone,knowing their troublesome nature.
jimh posted 09-27-2010 08:45 PM ET (US)
ASIDE to Dave Weight--Thank you for giving a proper URI to the resource which was crucial to view in order to participate in this discussion. If viewing an on-line resource is a crucial element of a discussion, it is imperative that the resource be correctly provided. Authors who give links should be attentive that the links actually point to something.
daveweight posted 09-28-2010 06:07 AM ET (US)
Jimh
My pleasure, it has only taken me six years to learn how to do it. Yesterday in fact was the first time. Computer illiterate, me never.
wobstuff posted 10-03-2010 04:27 PM ET (US)
Hi Guy`s,
The seller rang me on Saturday,accepting my offer of 2,500 euro.(US$3,400).
It seems a fair enough price I think,even though the motor may have to be updated in the near future.
Its either buy this boat, and put a bit of work into her,or pull the Turbojet out of my Rage 15 and convert to an outboard set up.
What do ya think???
Tohsgib posted 10-04-2010 12:33 PM ET (US)
Buy the 15'
wobstuff posted 11-11-2010 06:15 PM ET (US)
Aside from the BW Rage`s history of engine problems,how do you guys rate the hull for build quality,seating lay out,ride comfort etc..??
What do you think are the disadvantages or advantages of the Rage hull to the Sport 15 hull set up???
Look forward to your responses.
Tohsgib posted 11-12-2010 10:29 AM ET (US)
Rage...stay away.
leadsled posted 11-12-2010 10:44 AM ET (US)
Someone I know got rid of the rage jet and made a bracket for it and installed a 90 hp tohatsu outboard. Looks and goes great and it has a huge storage space where the old engine/jet was.
Buy the 15 sport for that price.
wobstuff posted 11-16-2010 03:57 PM ET (US)
Aside from the problematic 115hp engine on the Rage,do you think the hull is worth keeping and converting to an outboard set up??or would you guys sooner the older Sport that`s for sale?
Tohsgib posted 11-17-2010 11:33 AM ET (US)
It looks like you are not going to buy either so don't worry about it.
flippa posted 11-17-2010 06:05 PM ET (US)
Nick, he already owns the Rage.
I have seen one converted rage, but I have never rode in one so have no clue how it would handle.
Personally I would sell the rage & get the 15; it will be cheaper in the long run. You will be able to enjoy the 15 immediately.
wobstuff posted 11-17-2010 06:16 PM ET (US)
You obviously haven`t been reading my posts correctly Tohsgib..
I ALREADY own a Rage 15,but am in the process of buying a Sport.(The owner works away and is only available at weekends,therefore we haven`t completed the transaction yet.)
I was simply asking for any comments on how a 15ft. Rage (converted to an outboard)compares to a 15ft. Sport for ride comfort,manouverability,resale etc,etc...
Willie
zotcha posted 11-17-2010 08:38 PM ET (US)
Sometimes you just have to wish you had gone to bed before checking the site...I'm guilty. "It's all GOOD!" zotcha.
Newtauk1 posted 11-17-2010 09:41 PM ET (US)
Ireland is a buyers market for everything right now. I would go back and ofer 1/2 of what you did. 1500 EU is plenty for a boat in IRE right now. Seriously. No oneis buying anything. Offer him 1000-1500.
leadsled posted 11-18-2010 08:20 AM ET (US)
There is a 15' rage at my dock that was converted . He had someone very experienced in fiberglass work make a bracket for it. From what he told me that model engine/jet was troublesome. I would like to think that someone out there makes a metal bracket for that conversion. If you went that route you would have to seal the hole in the boat,get a bracket and you will need a longer steering cable that goes thru the transom to reach the engine. His set-up looks good and sits in the water good. Im sure the 90 hp motor he has goes at least as fast as the 115 hp jet. As far as resale value ,who knows? If yours still ran I would sell it.
Tohsgib posted 11-18-2010 11:23 AM ET (US)
Sorry but usually anyone who was asking what to buy 2 months ago and has not done so is not going to do so...my bad.
wobstuff posted 11-23-2010 04:40 PM ET (US)
Finally tracked down the owner yesterday and completed the transaction.
We settled on 2,600 euro for boat,trailer and both engines.
I`m gonna convert my Rage to an outboard over the winter and sell her on.
Lookin forward to a weekend of boating on my new 15 before it gets too cold
Yippee!!!!!!!!

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Author	Topic: Whaler 15-footer in Ireland
wobstuff	posted 09-26-2010 04:59 PM ET (US) Hi Guys. A guy who lives near me in Ireland has a 15-footer for sale. Do you think that the asking price is reasonable at 3,500 euro, about $2,800 approx. Is the console a homemade job do you think? I think she would look a lot better stripped back and refitted with a less cluttered mahogony seat and console arrangement. Quick replies appreciated,as she wont be around for long I feel! www.donedeal.ie/boston whaler Willie, Galway, Ireland
jimh	posted 09-26-2010 05:29 PM ET (US) You better check your currency conversion.
jimh	posted 09-26-2010 05:30 PM ET (US) Also check your link: 404--NOT FOUND
wobstuff	posted 09-26-2010 05:39 PM ET (US) Sorry, Currency converts to $4,700 approx. The link works fine though?!?!. www.donedeal.ie should get you in,and then type "boston whaler". Thanks jimh.
jimh	posted 09-26-2010 06:06 PM ET (US) Please give the URI of the resource you wish us to view.
daveweight	posted 09-27-2010 04:38 AM ET (US) Hi Willie This could be a difficult question for the Americans to answer, mostly because we pay in Euros or Pounds what the Americans pay in Dollars so your boat would be $3500 in America. That's just the way it is unfortunately. The link works for me here in the UK, I have looked and I would be interested but the trailer looks tired and is probably rusting from the insides of the tubes outwards so have a good hard prod with a screwdriver. Standard things you need to check for on a Whaler purchase can be found using the Search facility here but if the boat is not waterlogged and the trailer and outboard check out then you will love Whaler ownership. David Weight
daveweight	posted 09-27-2010 09:40 AM ET (US) Jimh Please try this www.donedeal.co.uk/find/all/for-sale/Ireland/boston%20whaler Regards Dave Weight
Jeff	posted 09-27-2010 11:17 AM ET (US) That console seems to be a modified OEM Winged console from Whaler. Interesting to see it on a 15. As for the price? Someone local would know best but, here in the states that boat could bring $2,500 - $4,500 or so. One thing I will say is that 3 cylinder Merc was a notorious motor for poor idle and a very rough runner. I hated mine. No matter what I tried I could not get it to idle well while in neutral, nor in gear. That thing was so LOUD as well. It was the only old classic two stroke I ever hated. The best it ever ran was the weekend before I sold it. http:/ / smg. photobucket. com/ albums/ v427/ jeff_rohlfing/ ?action=vie w& current=20090906_160856. mp4#!oZZ3QQcurrentZZhttp%3A%2F%2Fsmg. photob ucket. com%2Falbums%2Fv427%2Fjeff_rohlfing%2F%3Faction%3Dview%26current% 3D20090906_160803. mp4%26 http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v427/jeff_rohlfing/?action=view& current=20090906_160856.mp4 http:/ / smg. photobucket. com/ albums/ v427/ jeff_rohlfing/ ?action=vie w& current=20090906_160856. mp4#!oZZ2QQcurrentZZhttp%3A%2F%2Fsmg. photob ucket. com%2Falbums%2Fv427%2Fjeff_rohlfing%2F%3Faction%3Dview%26current% 3D20090906_160823. mp4%26
Tohsgib	posted 09-27-2010 11:37 AM ET (US) Engine is a 75-77 so not new in any way. The console I like, the seat I think you could do something better. That boat here might fetch $3500us.
wobstuff	posted 09-27-2010 02:07 PM ET (US) Thanks for the responses guys. I rang the guy today and made an offer of 2,500 euro,thats 1,000 euro less than the asking price!! He said he`d have a think about it,so fingers crossed. Do you think that console would be worth keeping,and if i were to change the seating,what do you think would be more suitable??
Tohsgib	posted 09-27-2010 02:19 PM ET (US) I like the console and it is an OEM console to boot. The seat I would rather see a cooler seat than that, looks heavy as well.
Russ 13	posted 09-27-2010 03:13 PM ET (US) I like the console also, but would change the seat to an aluminum framed leaning/post type. That way you could still have the fuel under it. I used Carolina Skiff channel on mine to run all the wiring from the console to the engine area. This along with moving the battery under the console, opened up the available deck space, and made for a neat installation. That hull works VERY well with a 2-stroke 70HP or 90HP Yamaha, as they are very close in weight.
wobstuff	posted 09-27-2010 05:49 PM ET (US) Could the steering wheel be changed to a stainless steel one without too much difficulty?? I don`t think the wheel on the console at the moment does it any justice.
flippa	posted 09-27-2010 06:43 PM ET (US) Steering wheel should be easy enough to change to a stainless one. I really like the console & seat. Looks like it has a bunch of usable storage spaces. Older motor, so it is key having the kicker. Where will you be using the boat? Ocean or lakes?
wobstuff	posted 09-27-2010 06:52 PM ET (US) It will be solely be used on lakes. Where I live in Ireland,I have direct access to Lough Corrib,(Irelands second biggest lake)from the end of my garden. I can be in Galway city in 30 mins. I own a Rage 15 at the moment but I`m sick of its unreliability. If I dont buy this 15ft,I will maybe add an outboard to the Rage instead over the winter. I love the older classic whalers though,but I can`t afford to have 2 boats. I would really hate to sell the Rage 15 onto someone,knowing their troublesome nature.
jimh	posted 09-27-2010 08:45 PM ET (US) ASIDE to Dave Weight--Thank you for giving a proper URI to the resource which was crucial to view in order to participate in this discussion. If viewing an on-line resource is a crucial element of a discussion, it is imperative that the resource be correctly provided. Authors who give links should be attentive that the links actually point to something.
daveweight	posted 09-28-2010 06:07 AM ET (US) Jimh My pleasure, it has only taken me six years to learn how to do it. Yesterday in fact was the first time. Computer illiterate, me never.
wobstuff	posted 10-03-2010 04:27 PM ET (US) Hi Guy`s, The seller rang me on Saturday,accepting my offer of 2,500 euro.(US$3,400). It seems a fair enough price I think,even though the motor may have to be updated in the near future. Its either buy this boat, and put a bit of work into her,or pull the Turbojet out of my Rage 15 and convert to an outboard set up. What do ya think???
Tohsgib	posted 10-04-2010 12:33 PM ET (US) Buy the 15'
wobstuff	posted 11-11-2010 06:15 PM ET (US) Aside from the BW Rage`s history of engine problems,how do you guys rate the hull for build quality,seating lay out,ride comfort etc..?? What do you think are the disadvantages or advantages of the Rage hull to the Sport 15 hull set up??? Look forward to your responses.
Tohsgib	posted 11-12-2010 10:29 AM ET (US) Rage...stay away.
leadsled	posted 11-12-2010 10:44 AM ET (US) Someone I know got rid of the rage jet and made a bracket for it and installed a 90 hp tohatsu outboard. Looks and goes great and it has a huge storage space where the old engine/jet was. Buy the 15 sport for that price.
wobstuff	posted 11-16-2010 03:57 PM ET (US) Aside from the problematic 115hp engine on the Rage,do you think the hull is worth keeping and converting to an outboard set up??or would you guys sooner the older Sport that`s for sale?
Tohsgib	posted 11-17-2010 11:33 AM ET (US) It looks like you are not going to buy either so don't worry about it.
flippa	posted 11-17-2010 06:05 PM ET (US) Nick, he already owns the Rage. I have seen one converted rage, but I have never rode in one so have no clue how it would handle. Personally I would sell the rage & get the 15; it will be cheaper in the long run. You will be able to enjoy the 15 immediately.
wobstuff	posted 11-17-2010 06:16 PM ET (US) You obviously haven`t been reading my posts correctly Tohsgib.. I ALREADY own a Rage 15,but am in the process of buying a Sport.(The owner works away and is only available at weekends,therefore we haven`t completed the transaction yet.) I was simply asking for any comments on how a 15ft. Rage (converted to an outboard)compares to a 15ft. Sport for ride comfort,manouverability,resale etc,etc... Willie
zotcha	posted 11-17-2010 08:38 PM ET (US) Sometimes you just have to wish you had gone to bed before checking the site...I'm guilty. "It's all GOOD!" zotcha.
Newtauk1	posted 11-17-2010 09:41 PM ET (US) Ireland is a buyers market for everything right now. I would go back and ofer 1/2 of what you did. 1500 EU is plenty for a boat in IRE right now. Seriously. No oneis buying anything. Offer him 1000-1500.
leadsled	posted 11-18-2010 08:20 AM ET (US) There is a 15' rage at my dock that was converted . He had someone very experienced in fiberglass work make a bracket for it. From what he told me that model engine/jet was troublesome. I would like to think that someone out there makes a metal bracket for that conversion. If you went that route you would have to seal the hole in the boat,get a bracket and you will need a longer steering cable that goes thru the transom to reach the engine. His set-up looks good and sits in the water good. Im sure the 90 hp motor he has goes at least as fast as the 115 hp jet. As far as resale value ,who knows? If yours still ran I would sell it.
Tohsgib	posted 11-18-2010 11:23 AM ET (US) Sorry but usually anyone who was asking what to buy 2 months ago and has not done so is not going to do so...my bad.
wobstuff	posted 11-23-2010 04:40 PM ET (US) Finally tracked down the owner yesterday and completed the transaction. We settled on 2,600 euro for boat,trailer and both engines. I`m gonna convert my Rage to an outboard over the winter and sell her on. Lookin forward to a weekend of boating on my new 15 before it gets too cold Yippee!!!!!!!!