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K Albus posted 09-30-2010 03:57 PM ET (US)
Approximately seven or eight years ago, shortly after Boston Whaler introduced the 320 Outrage, they announced that an in-deck suspension system would be available as an option on that boat. In reviewing Boston Whaler's current website, it does not appear that option is any longer available. Has anybody here ever seen or ridden on a Boston Whaler with the in-deck suspension system? If so, what did you think of the ride? Also, has anybody seen a used boat for sale which included this option? And if so, how did it affect the asking price for the boat (i.e., was it considered an attractive option or was it more of an expensive white elephant type of option)?
Peter posted 09-30-2010 04:15 PM ET (US)
The Active Deck Suspension System (ADSS) was a nearly $20,000 option. That's 20K spent on an item that is at complete odds with KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid). Have a feeling that not many hulls were built with that option.
SJUAE posted 09-30-2010 06:24 PM ET (US)
I really like the Outrage 320 cuddy its a very unusual configuration
The ADSS was not much more than a pneumatic ball at the opposite end on a hinged deck floor. BW must of considered it had some benefits to of added it in the first place, but It was a very expensive option.
Regards
Steve
David Pendleton posted 09-30-2010 06:32 PM ET (US)
At least one of the benefits was emptying your wallet of twenty thousand dollars.
contender posted 09-30-2010 07:22 PM ET (US)
Would be a lot cheaper/easier to lay something on the deck for the bounce. Soft mat like a high school wrestling mat...
jimh posted 09-30-2010 07:30 PM ET (US)
I have ridden on a Boston Whaler with the active suspension system. One unusual feature was the floor adjusting as people stepped onto the active floor or stepped off of it.
It would be hard for me to evaluate the effect of the system because of the limited amount of time I was able to experience it.
sosmerc posted 10-10-2010 12:34 AM ET (US)
It is not uncommon to see fancy seats with built in "suspension systems" like truckers have being used on some boats. Seems like a much cheaper way to achieve a "softer" ride.......
boatdryver posted 10-11-2010 10:59 AM ET (US)
The air suspension seats I had on my 22 ft aluminum jet boat worked great in big choppy rapids.
But, the interior designers working on a high end product like a 32 ft Whaler would shriek in horror at the appearance of these seats, which would look at home in the cab of an 18 wheeler.
JimL
dfmcintyre posted 10-11-2010 03:23 PM ET (US)
Well, if your interested in a high-end suspension seat system, there's always the Bose system. The speaker guys, you ask?
Ah, Yep:
http://www.bose.com/controller?url=/bose_ride_system/index.jsp
20dauntless posted 10-11-2010 03:36 PM ET (US)
Ullman Dynamics makes seats for high performance boats. Zodiac uses them on their CZ7 and various military's use them. I don't think they'd look right on a fishing boat like a 320 Outrage, but they are supposed to be effective. They better be, since I think they cost $10k+ a seat.
K Albus posted 10-11-2010 04:21 PM ET (US)
I'm not really interested in buying a boat with a built-in deck suspension system. Nor am I interested in adding a couple of $10,000 seats to my boat. My original post was intended to start a conversation about the expensive ADSS system which was offered by Boston Whaler. There was a great deal of hoopla when this option was originally announced. After the introduction, however, very little was reported about boats equipped with the system.
I have seen a few used boats for sale which listed the ADSS as an included option. My interest in starting this thread was more along the lines of where the ADSS option is viewed in the spectrum between "valuable option adding comfort and usability to the boat" and "unnecessary, expensive option, plagued with problems, which adds substantial weight to the boat, robbing it of performance." While it is unlikely that I will be purchasing a boat with the ADSS option, I would like to hear what people think of it. My cursory review of advertisements for used boats with ADSS system leads me to the conclusion that it is not considered a very valuable option.
I also find it interesting that there are apparently no first-hand reports from anyone who owns a boat equipped with the ADSS system, given the number of participants in this discussion forum. That leads me to believe that Boston Whaler sold very few boats equipped with the ADSS option.
tuckerman posted 10-14-2011 09:15 PM ET (US)
[Revived this discussion to take a survey of reader's knowledge. The knowledge being sought should be sought in MARKETPLACE. Thread closed.]
phatwhaler posted 10-15-2011 01:59 PM ET (US)
Safeboat is putting these Shox seats on thier boats these days. They go for around $9500 a piece with the 5 point harness.
http://shockmitigationdirectory.com/inner-category/6/22/230/
davej14 posted 10-15-2011 07:08 PM ET (US)
Where is the cup holder ?
Hoosier posted 10-17-2011 06:16 PM ET (US)
This looks like it could actually take the weather in a boat. It's a whole lot cheaper than a Shox.
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/ product_200403585_200403585?cm_ite=716924& cm_pla=Seats%3ESuspension%20Seats&cm_cat=Google&cm_ven=Aggregates

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Author	Topic: Large Whalers With In-Deck Suspension System
K Albus	posted 09-30-2010 03:57 PM ET (US) Approximately seven or eight years ago, shortly after Boston Whaler introduced the 320 Outrage, they announced that an in-deck suspension system would be available as an option on that boat. In reviewing Boston Whaler's current website, it does not appear that option is any longer available. Has anybody here ever seen or ridden on a Boston Whaler with the in-deck suspension system? If so, what did you think of the ride? Also, has anybody seen a used boat for sale which included this option? And if so, how did it affect the asking price for the boat (i.e., was it considered an attractive option or was it more of an expensive white elephant type of option)?
Peter	posted 09-30-2010 04:15 PM ET (US) The Active Deck Suspension System (ADSS) was a nearly $20,000 option. That's 20K spent on an item that is at complete odds with KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid). Have a feeling that not many hulls were built with that option.
SJUAE	posted 09-30-2010 06:24 PM ET (US) I really like the Outrage 320 cuddy its a very unusual configuration The ADSS was not much more than a pneumatic ball at the opposite end on a hinged deck floor. BW must of considered it had some benefits to of added it in the first place, but It was a very expensive option. Regards Steve
David Pendleton	posted 09-30-2010 06:32 PM ET (US) At least one of the benefits was emptying your wallet of twenty thousand dollars.
contender	posted 09-30-2010 07:22 PM ET (US) Would be a lot cheaper/easier to lay something on the deck for the bounce. Soft mat like a high school wrestling mat...
jimh	posted 09-30-2010 07:30 PM ET (US) I have ridden on a Boston Whaler with the active suspension system. One unusual feature was the floor adjusting as people stepped onto the active floor or stepped off of it. It would be hard for me to evaluate the effect of the system because of the limited amount of time I was able to experience it.
sosmerc	posted 10-10-2010 12:34 AM ET (US) It is not uncommon to see fancy seats with built in "suspension systems" like truckers have being used on some boats. Seems like a much cheaper way to achieve a "softer" ride.......
boatdryver	posted 10-11-2010 10:59 AM ET (US) The air suspension seats I had on my 22 ft aluminum jet boat worked great in big choppy rapids. But, the interior designers working on a high end product like a 32 ft Whaler would shriek in horror at the appearance of these seats, which would look at home in the cab of an 18 wheeler. JimL
dfmcintyre	posted 10-11-2010 03:23 PM ET (US) Well, if your interested in a high-end suspension seat system, there's always the Bose system. The speaker guys, you ask? Ah, Yep: http://www.bose.com/controller?url=/bose_ride_system/index.jsp
20dauntless	posted 10-11-2010 03:36 PM ET (US) Ullman Dynamics makes seats for high performance boats. Zodiac uses them on their CZ7 and various military's use them. I don't think they'd look right on a fishing boat like a 320 Outrage, but they are supposed to be effective. They better be, since I think they cost $10k+ a seat.
K Albus	posted 10-11-2010 04:21 PM ET (US) I'm not really interested in buying a boat with a built-in deck suspension system. Nor am I interested in adding a couple of $10,000 seats to my boat. My original post was intended to start a conversation about the expensive ADSS system which was offered by Boston Whaler. There was a great deal of hoopla when this option was originally announced. After the introduction, however, very little was reported about boats equipped with the system. I have seen a few used boats for sale which listed the ADSS as an included option. My interest in starting this thread was more along the lines of where the ADSS option is viewed in the spectrum between "valuable option adding comfort and usability to the boat" and "unnecessary, expensive option, plagued with problems, which adds substantial weight to the boat, robbing it of performance." While it is unlikely that I will be purchasing a boat with the ADSS option, I would like to hear what people think of it. My cursory review of advertisements for used boats with ADSS system leads me to the conclusion that it is not considered a very valuable option. I also find it interesting that there are apparently no first-hand reports from anyone who owns a boat equipped with the ADSS system, given the number of participants in this discussion forum. That leads me to believe that Boston Whaler sold very few boats equipped with the ADSS option.
tuckerman	posted 10-14-2011 09:15 PM ET (US) [Revived this discussion to take a survey of reader's knowledge. The knowledge being sought should be sought in MARKETPLACE. Thread closed.]
phatwhaler	posted 10-15-2011 01:59 PM ET (US) Safeboat is putting these Shox seats on thier boats these days. They go for around $9500 a piece with the 5 point harness. http://shockmitigationdirectory.com/inner-category/6/22/230/
davej14	posted 10-15-2011 07:08 PM ET (US) Where is the cup holder ?
Hoosier	posted 10-17-2011 06:16 PM ET (US) This looks like it could actually take the weather in a boat. It's a whole lot cheaper than a Shox. http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/ product_200403585_200403585?cm_ite=716924& cm_pla=Seats%3ESuspension%20Seats&cm_cat=Google&cm_ven=Aggregates