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ktm3ten posted 02-25-2011 08:47 PM ET (US)
This boat has recently been listed for sale. It's listed at 16'1", a 1975. The guy is asking $2100, reasonable? Any info about this model? Thanks
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elaelap posted 02-25-2011 09:02 PM ET (US)
It's actually 16'7" long, and it's one of the several smirkless (or 'pre-smirk', if you prefer) Montauk predecessors from the '60s thru the mid-'70s, with some modifications. I suspect that it's been painted -- at least its interior which except for a fairly unusual mid-70s model was blue. Hull looks pretty beat up, and that boat looks like a real serious project. Remember, they always look much better in the digital photos than in person. Unless you're very skilled and want a major renovation on your hands, spend some more money and get a cleaner one. Lots of 'em out there.
Tuco
martyn1075 posted 02-25-2011 09:06 PM ET (US)
Yes that's a thrashed Montauk.
jimh posted 02-25-2011 09:25 PM ET (US)
That is a model of used Boston Whaler boat which is generally known as the "One-hundred-dollar Boston Whaler boat."
contender posted 02-25-2011 09:29 PM ET (US)
Depends on what you are looking for, If you plan to re-due the entire boat? The boat looks bad, needs a lot of work, Engine, Trailer, Tires, Hull, and interior. From the looks of this I would go $1000 tops. Still the biggest thing is how good of shape is the hull in, without water. You need to have the hull weight see if is sound...
ktm3ten posted 02-25-2011 09:41 PM ET (US)
Its interesting, same boat was listed 2 days ago in a small town for $1500, today its listed by a well known boat buyer here locally for $2100, non-negotiable. thanks for all the insight.
BobL posted 02-25-2011 10:10 PM ET (US)
A price of $2100. is too high for that boat. The engine is not worth anything. It would cost more to have a mechanic evaluate the condition than it is worth. You could spend $600. on the motor for a compression test, tune up, and water pump only to find that it needs an expensive rebuild.
The pre-smirk 17 footers are less desirable than the smirked hulls. If the trailer is a similar vintage as the boat it might be worth a couple hundred dollars. If you are willing to do a major restoration or just need a work boat it might be worth $800 for the package. You will probably have to plan on re-powering and expect that the trailer will need work. It would be great to see another old Whaler restored but you have to buy it right and like Contender states, you need to weigh the hull to make sure it is not waterlogged (normal weight is 950 lbs.).
Look at the article on buying a classic whaler.
http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/buying.html
tcrane posted 02-25-2011 10:26 PM ET (US)
That is a 16' Cohasset model with a modified bow rail. The Cohasset is the same hull as the Nauset/Montauk but is identified by that particular design of center console (also used on 21' Outrages in the early/mid '70s.
Tom W Clark posted 02-26-2011 01:41 AM ET (US)
Yes, that is a 16' 7" Cohasset II. Its value will depend on the soundness of the hull.
The console is NOT the same as the early Outrages though it does share the same fiberglass console components as the Outrage III.
jimh posted 02-26-2011 09:59 AM ET (US)
That model is also known as the "It-cost-me-$6,000-to-restore-this Whaler" model.
andygere posted 03-03-2011 08:47 PM ET (US)
This may also be known as a cosmetically rough but functionally sound boat, ideal for fishing, use by the kids, as a work boat...etc.
Price seems high unless motor and trailer check out better than they look. Would be a good pick up for a grand if you didn't have expectations of making it beautiful. Perfect for sitting on a mooring, loading up with crab traps, etc. Sometimes the beaters are more fun.

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Author	Topic: Identify and Appraise Value of a Boat Based on Viewing Small Images
ktm3ten	posted 02-25-2011 08:47 PM ET (US) This boat has recently been listed for sale. It's listed at 16'1", a 1975. The guy is asking $2100, reasonable? Any info about this model? Thanks First Low Resolution Image Hosted Very Temporarily Second Low Resolution Image Hosted Very Temporarily
elaelap	posted 02-25-2011 09:02 PM ET (US) It's actually 16'7" long, and it's one of the several smirkless (or 'pre-smirk', if you prefer) Montauk predecessors from the '60s thru the mid-'70s, with some modifications. I suspect that it's been painted -- at least its interior which except for a fairly unusual mid-70s model was blue. Hull looks pretty beat up, and that boat looks like a real serious project. Remember, they always look much better in the digital photos than in person. Unless you're very skilled and want a major renovation on your hands, spend some more money and get a cleaner one. Lots of 'em out there. Tuco
martyn1075	posted 02-25-2011 09:06 PM ET (US) Yes that's a thrashed Montauk.
jimh	posted 02-25-2011 09:25 PM ET (US) That is a model of used Boston Whaler boat which is generally known as the "One-hundred-dollar Boston Whaler boat."
contender	posted 02-25-2011 09:29 PM ET (US) Depends on what you are looking for, If you plan to re-due the entire boat? The boat looks bad, needs a lot of work, Engine, Trailer, Tires, Hull, and interior. From the looks of this I would go $1000 tops. Still the biggest thing is how good of shape is the hull in, without water. You need to have the hull weight see if is sound...
ktm3ten	posted 02-25-2011 09:41 PM ET (US) Its interesting, same boat was listed 2 days ago in a small town for $1500, today its listed by a well known boat buyer here locally for $2100, non-negotiable. thanks for all the insight.
BobL	posted 02-25-2011 10:10 PM ET (US) A price of $2100. is too high for that boat. The engine is not worth anything. It would cost more to have a mechanic evaluate the condition than it is worth. You could spend $600. on the motor for a compression test, tune up, and water pump only to find that it needs an expensive rebuild. The pre-smirk 17 footers are less desirable than the smirked hulls. If the trailer is a similar vintage as the boat it might be worth a couple hundred dollars. If you are willing to do a major restoration or just need a work boat it might be worth $800 for the package. You will probably have to plan on re-powering and expect that the trailer will need work. It would be great to see another old Whaler restored but you have to buy it right and like Contender states, you need to weigh the hull to make sure it is not waterlogged (normal weight is 950 lbs.). Look at the article on buying a classic whaler. http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/buying.html
tcrane	posted 02-25-2011 10:26 PM ET (US) That is a 16' Cohasset model with a modified bow rail. The Cohasset is the same hull as the Nauset/Montauk but is identified by that particular design of center console (also used on 21' Outrages in the early/mid '70s.
Tom W Clark	posted 02-26-2011 01:41 AM ET (US) Yes, that is a 16' 7" Cohasset II. Its value will depend on the soundness of the hull. The console is NOT the same as the early Outrages though it does share the same fiberglass console components as the Outrage III.
jimh	posted 02-26-2011 09:59 AM ET (US) That model is also known as the "It-cost-me-$6,000-to-restore-this Whaler" model.
andygere	posted 03-03-2011 08:47 PM ET (US) This may also be known as a cosmetically rough but functionally sound boat, ideal for fishing, use by the kids, as a work boat...etc. Price seems high unless motor and trailer check out better than they look. Would be a good pick up for a grand if you didn't have expectations of making it beautiful. Perfect for sitting on a mooring, loading up with crab traps, etc. Sometimes the beaters are more fun.