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Russ 13 posted 04-06-2011 12:39 PM ET (US)
On the small 14-15 foot Dauntless hulls say mid 1990's,
Do they ride better than the classic hulls?
And any prefered model years?
Thanks.
fishgutz posted 04-06-2011 01:45 PM ET (US)
I have a 1999 Dauntless 14. It is a somewhat heavy boat with a fairly deep V hull. The ride is incredible. Cuts through a chop much better than a classic 15. Might not be as fast as a classic 15 but with my 75 Merc it scoots just past 40. Sometimes 42 on a good day. Average high speed is 39. Most times I cruise at 22 to 25 MPH. Rides real nice. I can compare because my brother used to have a 15 that rode pretty rough in comparison. His was even a little heavy as it was a GLS (I think), all fiberglass seats.
The slightly older Dauntless 15 is a nice boat. A little lighter than mine so I would guess with the extra foot and a few less pounds it will ride better than a Classic 15 but not quite as nice as my 14. Might be a bit faster than mine with a 75.
dnh posted 04-06-2011 05:37 PM ET (US)
A 15 classic Whaler hull does not ride "pretty rough" compared to any 14-15 ft. hull if trimmed correctly.
In fact, it rides incredible well in chop. Its biggest issue is rolling, not riding "pretty rough" in chop.
Russ 13 posted 04-06-2011 06:48 PM ET (US)
It seems that the Dauntless is a heavy boat compared to the 15' Classic.
This would also suggest that the Dauntless requires more HP.to perform properly.
What degree V did Whaler use on the 13 to 16 Duntless series??
Thanks, Russ
fishgutz posted 04-06-2011 08:12 PM ET (US)

quote:
pretty rough in comparison
cohasett73 posted 04-06-2011 09:19 PM ET (US)
Post Classic?
pcrussell50 posted 04-07-2011 12:30 AM ET (US)
There was a Dauntless in and around the harbor here in Santa Barbara all weekend. It had a 150 FICHT on it, but I don't know what size class that puts the hull in. I do know that just watching it at a static float, it doesn't -look- like it has that coveted, "level" float that most classic-lovers are so obsessed with. It looks more like your garden variety, (insert name here), brand of boat. Of course, it still has that quality Whaler construction thabhe others will lack. I could be wrong about the level static float. maybe it just has high gunwales in front that tape lower in back so it looks like it's not level.
-Peter
Jefecinco posted 04-07-2011 09:44 AM ET (US)
Peter,
That almost has to be a 180 Dauntless unless it is a very overpowered 160.
Every Dauntless I've seen floats with a level deck unless it is loaded in a way to throw that off. A 160 with a 150HP FICHT might be a case of excessive weight in the rear. That could be disadvantageous due to the tendency of the 160 Dauntless scuppers to be very near the waterline when powered with a 115 HP FICHT. I would love to have a ride on a 160 powered with a 150 HP engine. My previous 160 would do over 40 MPH per the GPS with a 115 FICHT so I imagine an extra 35 HP would get it up to at least 45 and perhaps more with the right propeller and mounting height.
Just a glance at an older Dauntless makes it clear that it's a Boston Whaler boat. Other than the "euro" transom it has very classic Whaler lines and it's lineage is unmistakable to aficionados. Purists may whine a bit which I can understand since I don't believe there has been a beautiful MG since the 1948 TC.
Butch
andrey320 posted 04-07-2011 02:03 PM ET (US)
I think the Dauntless has a sharper V than a classic Montauk giving it better rough water handling charecteristics. But it also contributes to the boat being not being as stable when weight shifts side to side. I don't have any classic Whaler experience to compare my 1995 Dauntless 15 with....
Russ 13 posted 04-07-2011 02:06 PM ET (US)
Well I have a little more info.
The boat I am interrested in is a 1995 Dauntless
13' or 14'??
Paperwork states the length @ 13' 9 inches.
It has a bench seat behind a small center console, and a seperate above deck fuel tank.
So is it a 13' or 14'??
And any info on the bottom V degree of deadrise??
Thanks,
fishgutz posted 04-07-2011 04:01 PM ET (US)
That's a 13. The 14 is 14'3" and was only made in 1999 and 2000. Anything before that would be a 13 or 15. If you want a 13 foot boat, that Dauntless is a NICE ride. I think it is rated at 50 HP. Should scoot.
fishgutz posted 04-07-2011 04:02 PM ET (US)
BTW if you ever would have to repower, the 13 and 15 can handle more weight on the transom than the 14 or 16.
Russ 13 posted 04-07-2011 08:12 PM ET (US)
Then it is a 13' Dauntless.
How do they perform with a 50HP 2/stroke??
fishgutz posted 04-07-2011 08:58 PM ET (US)
I'd bet it'll go mid to high 30s. That is a nice rig and easy to tow with anything.

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Author	Topic: Small Dauntless bottom design?
Russ 13	posted 04-06-2011 12:39 PM ET (US) On the small 14-15 foot Dauntless hulls say mid 1990's, Do they ride better than the classic hulls? And any prefered model years? Thanks.
fishgutz	posted 04-06-2011 01:45 PM ET (US) I have a 1999 Dauntless 14. It is a somewhat heavy boat with a fairly deep V hull. The ride is incredible. Cuts through a chop much better than a classic 15. Might not be as fast as a classic 15 but with my 75 Merc it scoots just past 40. Sometimes 42 on a good day. Average high speed is 39. Most times I cruise at 22 to 25 MPH. Rides real nice. I can compare because my brother used to have a 15 that rode pretty rough in comparison. His was even a little heavy as it was a GLS (I think), all fiberglass seats. The slightly older Dauntless 15 is a nice boat. A little lighter than mine so I would guess with the extra foot and a few less pounds it will ride better than a Classic 15 but not quite as nice as my 14. Might be a bit faster than mine with a 75.
dnh	posted 04-06-2011 05:37 PM ET (US) A 15 classic Whaler hull does not ride "pretty rough" compared to any 14-15 ft. hull if trimmed correctly. In fact, it rides incredible well in chop. Its biggest issue is rolling, not riding "pretty rough" in chop.
Russ 13	posted 04-06-2011 06:48 PM ET (US) It seems that the Dauntless is a heavy boat compared to the 15' Classic. This would also suggest that the Dauntless requires more HP.to perform properly. What degree V did Whaler use on the 13 to 16 Duntless series?? Thanks, Russ
fishgutz	posted 04-06-2011 08:12 PM ET (US) quote: pretty rough in comparison
cohasett73	posted 04-06-2011 09:19 PM ET (US) Post Classic?
pcrussell50	posted 04-07-2011 12:30 AM ET (US) There was a Dauntless in and around the harbor here in Santa Barbara all weekend. It had a 150 FICHT on it, but I don't know what size class that puts the hull in. I do know that just watching it at a static float, it doesn't -look- like it has that coveted, "level" float that most classic-lovers are so obsessed with. It looks more like your garden variety, (insert name here), brand of boat. Of course, it still has that quality Whaler construction thabhe others will lack. I could be wrong about the level static float. maybe it just has high gunwales in front that tape lower in back so it looks like it's not level. -Peter
Jefecinco	posted 04-07-2011 09:44 AM ET (US) Peter, That almost has to be a 180 Dauntless unless it is a very overpowered 160. Every Dauntless I've seen floats with a level deck unless it is loaded in a way to throw that off. A 160 with a 150HP FICHT might be a case of excessive weight in the rear. That could be disadvantageous due to the tendency of the 160 Dauntless scuppers to be very near the waterline when powered with a 115 HP FICHT. I would love to have a ride on a 160 powered with a 150 HP engine. My previous 160 would do over 40 MPH per the GPS with a 115 FICHT so I imagine an extra 35 HP would get it up to at least 45 and perhaps more with the right propeller and mounting height. Just a glance at an older Dauntless makes it clear that it's a Boston Whaler boat. Other than the "euro" transom it has very classic Whaler lines and it's lineage is unmistakable to aficionados. Purists may whine a bit which I can understand since I don't believe there has been a beautiful MG since the 1948 TC. Butch
andrey320	posted 04-07-2011 02:03 PM ET (US) I think the Dauntless has a sharper V than a classic Montauk giving it better rough water handling charecteristics. But it also contributes to the boat being not being as stable when weight shifts side to side. I don't have any classic Whaler experience to compare my 1995 Dauntless 15 with....
Russ 13	posted 04-07-2011 02:06 PM ET (US) Well I have a little more info. The boat I am interrested in is a 1995 Dauntless 13' or 14'?? Paperwork states the length @ 13' 9 inches. It has a bench seat behind a small center console, and a seperate above deck fuel tank. So is it a 13' or 14'?? And any info on the bottom V degree of deadrise?? Thanks,
fishgutz	posted 04-07-2011 04:01 PM ET (US) That's a 13. The 14 is 14'3" and was only made in 1999 and 2000. Anything before that would be a 13 or 15. If you want a 13 foot boat, that Dauntless is a NICE ride. I think it is rated at 50 HP. Should scoot.
fishgutz	posted 04-07-2011 04:02 PM ET (US) BTW if you ever would have to repower, the 13 and 15 can handle more weight on the transom than the 14 or 16.
Russ 13	posted 04-07-2011 08:12 PM ET (US) Then it is a 13' Dauntless. How do they perform with a 50HP 2/stroke??
fishgutz	posted 04-07-2011 08:58 PM ET (US) I'd bet it'll go mid to high 30s. That is a nice rig and easy to tow with anything.