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jimh posted 08-16-2011 08:59 PM ET (US)
Just recently I awoke about 7 a.m. from a very vivid dream. In the dream I had a Boston Whaler boat, a 22-foot or 25-foot hull with Whaler Drive, that was powered by a very large--enormous--four-cycle outboard engine made by Yamaha. I think it was an F250. I returned from a visit ashore to the dock where I had left my boat. For some odd reason, I had apparently left out all of the plugs in the hull drains. The boat had taken on a lot of water, and the hull was flooded down quite deeply, with the gunwales almost awash. There was water in the cockpit to a depth of a foot or two.
In the dream I went aboard the boat and tried to start the engine, even though the batteries were awash in seawater. I turned the key, but the engine did not start. Then, a moment later, I found the engine had started, but it ran so quietly that I could not hear it. I had put the shift lever into gear--not knowing the engine was running--and the engine turned the propeller. There were some mooring lines that had been cast off and become entangle in the propeller. I could not get the boat underway to drain the water from the cockpit because of the fouled lines in the propeller. I could not get rid of the water in the cockpit.
At this point in the dream I awoke in an agitated state.
Please explain the meaning of this dream as interpreted by the Freudian method.
Thank you--jimh
home Aside posted 08-16-2011 09:10 PM ET (US)
How big a ration of Rum did you have in the dream?
Agntvbb posted 08-16-2011 09:12 PM ET (US)
Well, I don't know you at all, I am not a licensed therapist and generally don't put too much stock in Freud, but it sounds to me like you spend a lot of time thinking about how things things could go wrong...
jimh posted 08-16-2011 09:16 PM ET (US)
I depend on my dream-werk to help me though life. It was a few days before my eight-day wilderness cruise with my new electronic engine control system that I awoke from a dream which revealed that I was not carrying any spare fuses for the system. Later that day I obtained a set of spare fuses for my new electronic control system. The dream-werk is a valuable companion to me.
jimh posted 08-16-2011 09:23 PM ET (US)
I should mention that my older brother, eight years my senior, is a medical doctor and a psychiatrist. When I was about 12-years old he was an undergraduate, studying Pyschology. I read Freud's INTERPRETATION OF DREAMS, one of his textbooks, as a 12-year-old. It had a profound effect on me. I have always relied on the dream-werk to help interpret life for me.
Later I read THE PSYCHOPATHOLOGY OF EVERYDAY LIFE, perhaps at age thirteen. These books influenced my development and approach to life.
Now that I think about it, the engine in the dream may have been an F350 V8 Yamaha.
jimh posted 08-16-2011 09:24 PM ET (US)
What is the meaning of this dream?
Agntvbb posted 08-16-2011 09:32 PM ET (US)
Maybe you are spending TOO much time thinking about what can go wrong! Either that or not enough rum.
Waterwonderland posted 08-16-2011 09:53 PM ET (US)
Jim,
I think the dream has to do with Continuous Wave.
You are “awash” with postings, “tied” to the dock of managing them and “drowning” in a sea of needed corrections.
Always the perfectionist, you fear “tangling up your lines” by an inadvertent incorrect entry.
Personally I don't put any stock in Freud. Maybe you wouldn't want to either when you factor in the meaning of a 350 HP Yamaha:)
Or... it could have been what you ate that evening.
WT posted 08-16-2011 09:54 PM ET (US)
"dreams express repressed wishes"
Maybe you are second guessing your E-TEC re-power choice?
lizard posted 08-16-2011 11:00 PM ET (US)
WT- I can't imagine that jimh is questioning his choice of repowering with an E-tec, I would give a lot to be financially capable of making that choice. But, it was a creative suggestion to jim's question.
I had a completely odd and surreal dream last night, which would have little meaning to anyone, least of all me, so I won't drag you through it. In general, I do not sleep deeply enough for REM (dream or stage IV) sleep. Perhaps that is why it freaked me out so. I do know that is disrupted the enjoyment of my morning coffee.
WT posted 08-17-2011 02:14 AM ET (US)
I just bought "Interpretation of Dreams" translated by James Strachey from Amazon for the Kindle Reader.
http://www.amazon.com/Interpretation-Dreams-Complete-Definitive-ebook/ dp/B0037B6PZ8/ref=kinw_dp_ke?ie=UTF8&m=AG56TWVU5XWC2
Maybe I'll learn something about myself. :-)
Warren
Sal A posted 08-17-2011 05:27 AM ET (US)
It is interesting how you are describing another type of power, one that is the source of your problems, as "enormous". And the power that is the source of your envy is "HA" in its name.
You are afraid that Jerry Seinfeld, or some other well-endowed comedian, is stealing your wife.
Sal A posted 08-17-2011 05:28 AM ET (US)
should read: And the power that is the source of your envy has the letters "HA" in its/his name.
Tohsgib posted 08-17-2011 07:56 AM ET (US)
You bring up an interesting repower for a 25' Outrage....single F350.
As far as the dream goes according to Freud: In your dream you have a beautifull woman that is not your wife. You also have an "enormous" penis but you can't get it to work. You finally realize your penis does work but when you try to fornicate you get restricted or pulled away from her by your ties to your wife or other love in your life.
Be glad you did not mention Pavlov or that interpretation would be REALLY creepy!
crabby posted 08-17-2011 08:36 AM ET (US)
Was this a wet dream?
poker13 posted 08-17-2011 09:10 AM ET (US)
Avoid the bean burritos right before bedtime.
themclos posted 08-17-2011 09:51 AM ET (US)
Has boating season in the Great Lakes region ended already? Is winter upon us? Has JimH retired, and suddenly has 12 more hours each day available to manage continuouswave.com?
gnr posted 08-17-2011 10:37 AM ET (US)
Clearly a mid-life crises (albeit delayed) thing going on here.
You cast off the lines before starting the engine and then didn't clear them allowing them to become tangled? Big heavy 4 stroke? Didn't realize motor was running? Left the plugs out? Boat foundering?
Clearly you are ready to throw caution to the wind and embark on an adventure that would previously have been completely out of character for you. You are foundering and ready for a big change ("enormous" four stroke). Thoughts of missing out (did not know motor was running).
It's not too late. Clear the prop and hammer that puppy.
Sal A posted 08-17-2011 11:24 AM ET (US)
I'l take "Posts You Would Never Expect JIMH to Author" for $100, Alex.
JMARTIN posted 08-17-2011 12:45 PM ET (US)
How did you know "the batteries were awash in seawater." not fresh water?
John
Sourpuss1 posted 08-17-2011 01:12 PM ET (US)
Damn it Crabby, you stole my analysis!
Yes it was a wet dream, Jimh and the boat were sinking!
Freud would say
Please read the phrases below in an Austrian/German accent:
"I zuspect zat you are experiencing thoughts ov inadequesy in regards to your boat.... Perhaps zis is a manifestation of zee 2-foot-itis". "Ziss is your "id" speaking to you."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id,_ego,_and_super-ego
jimh posted 08-17-2011 01:16 PM ET (US)
Nick--The engine cowling shape was certainly not phallic. I was more of a vee-shape, like the Yamaha F350 has. That's why I think it was the V8 power head. It was curving vee-shape.
coolarrow posted 08-17-2011 01:43 PM ET (US)
Clearly, this dream has significance or you wouldn't have posted it. Sometimes when I take on a project that has the potential to go bad the alternative will manifest itself in a dream. In other words the road not taken will show up in dream form. I am of the school, that everything in the dream is you. When no one thinks the engine will start it does. What are you doing that is pushing your limits and how does this dream apply to that. We always need to reserve the right to let it just be random psychological jibberish. Whatever you think it means is it.
Tohsgib posted 08-17-2011 03:17 PM ET (US)
Everything Freud talked about was phalic and had to do with your penis...guy was a coke head for God's sake. Your engine had to be phalic if Freud was involved no matter what the shape.
PeteB88 posted 08-17-2011 05:42 PM ET (US)
Clear or dirty water?
jimh posted 08-17-2011 06:19 PM ET (US)
Clear water, very clear, like Gin.
PeteB88 posted 08-17-2011 08:58 PM ET (US)
Clear water = good, real good. Muddy water = trouble ahead. My old country aunts were all into dream interpretation. Sounds like the dream meant you are going to be handed a special project that will require 16 hours/day for the next three months, 6 days/week that will entirely encumber you. So you might as well put the Revenge up for the winter. No wait! Did the bilge pump work?? In your dream that is??? Were you bailing? How are things with the boss? Just because you don't seem to be paranoid doesn't mean somebody's not out to get ya!!
Tohsgib posted 08-17-2011 10:37 PM ET (US)
I am allergic to Gin(Juniper berries) so that might explain a lot.
deepwater posted 08-17-2011 11:01 PM ET (US)
What year was the boat
Newtauk1 posted 08-17-2011 11:30 PM ET (US)
Topics, or crap like this remind me of the TV series M.A.S.H.
It was at its best when it was real and funny. The actors acted and the directer and producers did their jobs. Then Alan Alda decided to direct and inject his persoanl spin on life. The series soon ended and the last episodes sucked.
skinnywater posted 08-17-2011 11:40 PM ET (US)
Personally I think you're just stressing about making sure you don't do something thoughtless (i.e. forgetful/neglectful) that ruins your current plans (maybe anxiously anticipate) - maybe you 'just know' you're forgetting something simple(?) My advice, take a snifter of your favorite, have a seat and make a written list that can be used to spur thoughts [free thinking] of what you need to have/get/do in order to accomplish whatever large or small plans/projects you have in the works and then over the next few days add or check it off as you ensure you have covered your bases -
my .02 worth of your nickle for armchair psychoanalysis - the doctor is now out.
PeteB88 posted 08-18-2011 10:26 AM ET (US)
Jim, can I ask you a personal question? SO it was clear liquid, like gin clear, what did it smell like? Sometimes our olfactory senses are "on" during dream stages. Did it have an acrid, foul odor? Was it E15? Nightmare for you ethanol spiked gasoline.
jimh posted 08-18-2011 01:42 PM ET (US)
I had another intense dream last night, also with Boston Whaler boats in the dream. The boats were Whalers, but in the dream they were all gray and had a slightly fuzzy appearance. Their lines were more modern and sloping. The boats looked great. There were three of them at a dock on a peninsula. I walked on shore, behind the row of very stately cottages there, and saw a flock of wild birds--large birds--that I thought were turkeys. As I approached the birds I realized they were much larger than I thought--they were six-feet tall! The birds turned into businessmen in black suits. They looked very hostile. I awoke at this point.
Sebash4 posted 08-18-2011 01:49 PM ET (US)
You need a vacation Jim...You've consumed way to much BS from CW posters :-)
poker13 posted 08-18-2011 02:10 PM ET (US)
The businessmen are Boston Whaler executives, angry at you for running this website, which encourages people to restore old Boston Whalers, thereby reducing the sale of new boats.
WT posted 08-18-2011 02:10 PM ET (US)
Perhaps jimh is concerned with his investments in the stock market.
A sinking Boston Whaler. (bad stock market bet)
Can't get boat to run. (Stock market failed you.)
Seeing a huge Yamaha 4-stroke. (Your reward for your work, nest egg.)
Birds=Vultures=Businessmen=Crooks
Stately cottages. (Businessmen statement of FU, I won, you lost!)
Businessmen in black suits. The businessmen know the gig is up and the market is dead.
Warren
gnr posted 08-18-2011 02:40 PM ET (US)
You threw the peninsula in there just for bigshot didn't you.
Are you sure they were businessmen? Could they have been lawyers?
deepwater posted 08-19-2011 08:47 PM ET (US)
Dreams are what you make of them
jimh posted 08-19-2011 10:03 PM ET (US)
In my dream the metamorphosis of the large birds into men was either into businessmen in suits or into the Bee Gees as they appeared at their last live performance which was featured on a PBS Television fund-raiser recently. I am not sure.
Binkster posted 08-19-2011 11:21 PM ET (US)
Funny thing about dreams. A few days ago I had a very vivid Boston Whaler dream also. I dreamt I was [deleted a clearly made-up dream].
Sfef84 posted 08-20-2011 03:57 AM ET (US)
Jim--Very interesting. Dreams about floods, flooding and the uncontrollable rise of water levels are your brain's projection of a general and/or specific event or outlook that is or will be spiraling out of control.
It is synonymous with the saying "in over your head" and plays on human's innate fear of drowning/suffocating and claustrophobia and helplessness.
Flood dreams often start with the sudden acknowledgement of standing water in a location that is a place of refuge, tranquility and familiar; a place the participant has "mastered."
As the dream progresses, a battle ensues to decrease the level of water but ultimately fails.
A "mastered" location is important to the manifestation because it represents all that you know, are passionate about and feel most comfortable in and around. Yet, it is not enough in the end, leaving your will broken, spirits crushed and worthless.
Sal A posted 08-20-2011 06:00 AM ET (US)
The Turkeys were Bank of America executives. They turned down Boston Whaler's request for capital (loan), and the old grey boats were just in limbo, their future fuzzy while tied up to docks a a penisula, i mean peninsula.
Sal A posted 08-20-2011 06:16 AM ET (US)
Oh yeah. The turkeys were either Bank of America executives, or the Bee Gees?
Duh. Bee = The Bernank
Duh Gees = Geithner.
Either way its the same. BAC, Bernank, Goldman, POTUS, CONGRESS, Walmart, Aetna,GE…..
Old grey boats…. their future fuzzy… social security a promise from a junkie…
Let's end on a high note, shall we?
Go to 3:10 in the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4uvLXCUhVg
jimh posted 08-20-2011 08:05 AM ET (US)
I will offer my own interpretations of the dreams.
The first dream, with the classic Whaler almost submerged, seems to be a warning about too much transom weight from large four-cycle engines.
The second dream is more obscure. It warns that going ashore is dangerous.
Tohsgib posted 08-20-2011 09:46 PM ET (US)
Pretty much most of Michigan is dangerous!
skinnywater posted 08-22-2011 09:42 AM ET (US)

quote:
The second dream is more obscure. It warns that going ashore is dangerous.

Lewis and Clark, Detroit, circa 1803.
Must be something in those Michigan waters.

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Author	Topic: The Psycho-pathology of Dreams
jimh	posted 08-16-2011 08:59 PM ET (US) Just recently I awoke about 7 a.m. from a very vivid dream. In the dream I had a Boston Whaler boat, a 22-foot or 25-foot hull with Whaler Drive, that was powered by a very large--enormous--four-cycle outboard engine made by Yamaha. I think it was an F250. I returned from a visit ashore to the dock where I had left my boat. For some odd reason, I had apparently left out all of the plugs in the hull drains. The boat had taken on a lot of water, and the hull was flooded down quite deeply, with the gunwales almost awash. There was water in the cockpit to a depth of a foot or two. In the dream I went aboard the boat and tried to start the engine, even though the batteries were awash in seawater. I turned the key, but the engine did not start. Then, a moment later, I found the engine had started, but it ran so quietly that I could not hear it. I had put the shift lever into gear--not knowing the engine was running--and the engine turned the propeller. There were some mooring lines that had been cast off and become entangle in the propeller. I could not get the boat underway to drain the water from the cockpit because of the fouled lines in the propeller. I could not get rid of the water in the cockpit. At this point in the dream I awoke in an agitated state. Please explain the meaning of this dream as interpreted by the Freudian method. Thank you--jimh
home Aside	posted 08-16-2011 09:10 PM ET (US) How big a ration of Rum did you have in the dream?
Agntvbb	posted 08-16-2011 09:12 PM ET (US) Well, I don't know you at all, I am not a licensed therapist and generally don't put too much stock in Freud, but it sounds to me like you spend a lot of time thinking about how things things could go wrong...
jimh	posted 08-16-2011 09:16 PM ET (US) I depend on my dream-werk to help me though life. It was a few days before my eight-day wilderness cruise with my new electronic engine control system that I awoke from a dream which revealed that I was not carrying any spare fuses for the system. Later that day I obtained a set of spare fuses for my new electronic control system. The dream-werk is a valuable companion to me.
jimh	posted 08-16-2011 09:23 PM ET (US) I should mention that my older brother, eight years my senior, is a medical doctor and a psychiatrist. When I was about 12-years old he was an undergraduate, studying Pyschology. I read Freud's INTERPRETATION OF DREAMS, one of his textbooks, as a 12-year-old. It had a profound effect on me. I have always relied on the dream-werk to help interpret life for me. Later I read THE PSYCHOPATHOLOGY OF EVERYDAY LIFE, perhaps at age thirteen. These books influenced my development and approach to life. Now that I think about it, the engine in the dream may have been an F350 V8 Yamaha.
jimh	posted 08-16-2011 09:24 PM ET (US) What is the meaning of this dream?
Agntvbb	posted 08-16-2011 09:32 PM ET (US) Maybe you are spending TOO much time thinking about what can go wrong! Either that or not enough rum.
Waterwonderland	posted 08-16-2011 09:53 PM ET (US) Jim, I think the dream has to do with Continuous Wave. You are “awash” with postings, “tied” to the dock of managing them and “drowning” in a sea of needed corrections. Always the perfectionist, you fear “tangling up your lines” by an inadvertent incorrect entry. Personally I don't put any stock in Freud. Maybe you wouldn't want to either when you factor in the meaning of a 350 HP Yamaha:) Or... it could have been what you ate that evening.
WT	posted 08-16-2011 09:54 PM ET (US) "dreams express repressed wishes" Maybe you are second guessing your E-TEC re-power choice?
lizard	posted 08-16-2011 11:00 PM ET (US) WT- I can't imagine that jimh is questioning his choice of repowering with an E-tec, I would give a lot to be financially capable of making that choice. But, it was a creative suggestion to jim's question. I had a completely odd and surreal dream last night, which would have little meaning to anyone, least of all me, so I won't drag you through it. In general, I do not sleep deeply enough for REM (dream or stage IV) sleep. Perhaps that is why it freaked me out so. I do know that is disrupted the enjoyment of my morning coffee.
WT	posted 08-17-2011 02:14 AM ET (US) I just bought "Interpretation of Dreams" translated by James Strachey from Amazon for the Kindle Reader. http://www.amazon.com/Interpretation-Dreams-Complete-Definitive-ebook/ dp/B0037B6PZ8/ref=kinw_dp_ke?ie=UTF8&m=AG56TWVU5XWC2 Maybe I'll learn something about myself. :-) Warren
Sal A	posted 08-17-2011 05:27 AM ET (US) It is interesting how you are describing another type of power, one that is the source of your problems, as "enormous". And the power that is the source of your envy is "HA" in its name. You are afraid that Jerry Seinfeld, or some other well-endowed comedian, is stealing your wife.
Sal A	posted 08-17-2011 05:28 AM ET (US) should read: And the power that is the source of your envy has the letters "HA" in its/his name.
Tohsgib	posted 08-17-2011 07:56 AM ET (US) You bring up an interesting repower for a 25' Outrage....single F350. As far as the dream goes according to Freud: In your dream you have a beautifull woman that is not your wife. You also have an "enormous" penis but you can't get it to work. You finally realize your penis does work but when you try to fornicate you get restricted or pulled away from her by your ties to your wife or other love in your life. Be glad you did not mention Pavlov or that interpretation would be REALLY creepy!
crabby	posted 08-17-2011 08:36 AM ET (US) Was this a wet dream?
poker13	posted 08-17-2011 09:10 AM ET (US) Avoid the bean burritos right before bedtime.
themclos	posted 08-17-2011 09:51 AM ET (US) Has boating season in the Great Lakes region ended already? Is winter upon us? Has JimH retired, and suddenly has 12 more hours each day available to manage continuouswave.com?
gnr	posted 08-17-2011 10:37 AM ET (US) Clearly a mid-life crises (albeit delayed) thing going on here. You cast off the lines before starting the engine and then didn't clear them allowing them to become tangled? Big heavy 4 stroke? Didn't realize motor was running? Left the plugs out? Boat foundering? Clearly you are ready to throw caution to the wind and embark on an adventure that would previously have been completely out of character for you. You are foundering and ready for a big change ("enormous" four stroke). Thoughts of missing out (did not know motor was running). It's not too late. Clear the prop and hammer that puppy.
Sal A	posted 08-17-2011 11:24 AM ET (US) I'l take "Posts You Would Never Expect JIMH to Author" for $100, Alex.
JMARTIN	posted 08-17-2011 12:45 PM ET (US) How did you know "the batteries were awash in seawater." not fresh water? John
Sourpuss1	posted 08-17-2011 01:12 PM ET (US) Damn it Crabby, you stole my analysis! Yes it was a wet dream, Jimh and the boat were sinking! Freud would say Please read the phrases below in an Austrian/German accent: "I zuspect zat you are experiencing thoughts ov inadequesy in regards to your boat.... Perhaps zis is a manifestation of zee 2-foot-itis". "Ziss is your "id" speaking to you." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id,_ego,_and_super-ego
jimh	posted 08-17-2011 01:16 PM ET (US) Nick--The engine cowling shape was certainly not phallic. I was more of a vee-shape, like the Yamaha F350 has. That's why I think it was the V8 power head. It was curving vee-shape.
coolarrow	posted 08-17-2011 01:43 PM ET (US) Clearly, this dream has significance or you wouldn't have posted it. Sometimes when I take on a project that has the potential to go bad the alternative will manifest itself in a dream. In other words the road not taken will show up in dream form. I am of the school, that everything in the dream is you. When no one thinks the engine will start it does. What are you doing that is pushing your limits and how does this dream apply to that. We always need to reserve the right to let it just be random psychological jibberish. Whatever you think it means is it.
Tohsgib	posted 08-17-2011 03:17 PM ET (US) Everything Freud talked about was phalic and had to do with your penis...guy was a coke head for God's sake. Your engine had to be phalic if Freud was involved no matter what the shape.
PeteB88	posted 08-17-2011 05:42 PM ET (US) Clear or dirty water?
jimh	posted 08-17-2011 06:19 PM ET (US) Clear water, very clear, like Gin.
PeteB88	posted 08-17-2011 08:58 PM ET (US) Clear water = good, real good. Muddy water = trouble ahead. My old country aunts were all into dream interpretation. Sounds like the dream meant you are going to be handed a special project that will require 16 hours/day for the next three months, 6 days/week that will entirely encumber you. So you might as well put the Revenge up for the winter. No wait! Did the bilge pump work?? In your dream that is??? Were you bailing? How are things with the boss? Just because you don't seem to be paranoid doesn't mean somebody's not out to get ya!!
Tohsgib	posted 08-17-2011 10:37 PM ET (US) I am allergic to Gin(Juniper berries) so that might explain a lot.
deepwater	posted 08-17-2011 11:01 PM ET (US) What year was the boat
Newtauk1	posted 08-17-2011 11:30 PM ET (US) Topics, or crap like this remind me of the TV series M.A.S.H. It was at its best when it was real and funny. The actors acted and the directer and producers did their jobs. Then Alan Alda decided to direct and inject his persoanl spin on life. The series soon ended and the last episodes sucked.
skinnywater	posted 08-17-2011 11:40 PM ET (US) Personally I think you're just stressing about making sure you don't do something thoughtless (i.e. forgetful/neglectful) that ruins your current plans (maybe anxiously anticipate) - maybe you 'just know' you're forgetting something simple(?) My advice, take a snifter of your favorite, have a seat and make a written list that can be used to spur thoughts [free thinking] of what you need to have/get/do in order to accomplish whatever large or small plans/projects you have in the works and then over the next few days add or check it off as you ensure you have covered your bases - my .02 worth of your nickle for armchair psychoanalysis - the doctor is now out.
PeteB88	posted 08-18-2011 10:26 AM ET (US) Jim, can I ask you a personal question? SO it was clear liquid, like gin clear, what did it smell like? Sometimes our olfactory senses are "on" during dream stages. Did it have an acrid, foul odor? Was it E15? Nightmare for you ethanol spiked gasoline.
jimh	posted 08-18-2011 01:42 PM ET (US) I had another intense dream last night, also with Boston Whaler boats in the dream. The boats were Whalers, but in the dream they were all gray and had a slightly fuzzy appearance. Their lines were more modern and sloping. The boats looked great. There were three of them at a dock on a peninsula. I walked on shore, behind the row of very stately cottages there, and saw a flock of wild birds--large birds--that I thought were turkeys. As I approached the birds I realized they were much larger than I thought--they were six-feet tall! The birds turned into businessmen in black suits. They looked very hostile. I awoke at this point.
Sebash4	posted 08-18-2011 01:49 PM ET (US) You need a vacation Jim...You've consumed way to much BS from CW posters :-)
poker13	posted 08-18-2011 02:10 PM ET (US) The businessmen are Boston Whaler executives, angry at you for running this website, which encourages people to restore old Boston Whalers, thereby reducing the sale of new boats.
WT	posted 08-18-2011 02:10 PM ET (US) Perhaps jimh is concerned with his investments in the stock market. A sinking Boston Whaler. (bad stock market bet) Can't get boat to run. (Stock market failed you.) Seeing a huge Yamaha 4-stroke. (Your reward for your work, nest egg.) Birds=Vultures=Businessmen=Crooks Stately cottages. (Businessmen statement of FU, I won, you lost!) Businessmen in black suits. The businessmen know the gig is up and the market is dead. Warren
gnr	posted 08-18-2011 02:40 PM ET (US) You threw the peninsula in there just for bigshot didn't you. Are you sure they were businessmen? Could they have been lawyers?
deepwater	posted 08-19-2011 08:47 PM ET (US) Dreams are what you make of them
jimh	posted 08-19-2011 10:03 PM ET (US) In my dream the metamorphosis of the large birds into men was either into businessmen in suits or into the Bee Gees as they appeared at their last live performance which was featured on a PBS Television fund-raiser recently. I am not sure.
Binkster	posted 08-19-2011 11:21 PM ET (US) Funny thing about dreams. A few days ago I had a very vivid Boston Whaler dream also. I dreamt I was [deleted a clearly made-up dream].
Sfef84	posted 08-20-2011 03:57 AM ET (US) Jim--Very interesting. Dreams about floods, flooding and the uncontrollable rise of water levels are your brain's projection of a general and/or specific event or outlook that is or will be spiraling out of control. It is synonymous with the saying "in over your head" and plays on human's innate fear of drowning/suffocating and claustrophobia and helplessness. Flood dreams often start with the sudden acknowledgement of standing water in a location that is a place of refuge, tranquility and familiar; a place the participant has "mastered." As the dream progresses, a battle ensues to decrease the level of water but ultimately fails. A "mastered" location is important to the manifestation because it represents all that you know, are passionate about and feel most comfortable in and around. Yet, it is not enough in the end, leaving your will broken, spirits crushed and worthless.
Sal A	posted 08-20-2011 06:00 AM ET (US) The Turkeys were Bank of America executives. They turned down Boston Whaler's request for capital (loan), and the old grey boats were just in limbo, their future fuzzy while tied up to docks a a penisula, i mean peninsula.
Sal A	posted 08-20-2011 06:16 AM ET (US) Oh yeah. The turkeys were either Bank of America executives, or the Bee Gees? Duh. Bee = The Bernank Duh Gees = Geithner. Either way its the same. BAC, Bernank, Goldman, POTUS, CONGRESS, Walmart, Aetna,GE….. Old grey boats…. their future fuzzy… social security a promise from a junkie… Let's end on a high note, shall we? Go to 3:10 in the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4uvLXCUhVg
jimh	posted 08-20-2011 08:05 AM ET (US) I will offer my own interpretations of the dreams. The first dream, with the classic Whaler almost submerged, seems to be a warning about too much transom weight from large four-cycle engines. The second dream is more obscure. It warns that going ashore is dangerous.
Tohsgib	posted 08-20-2011 09:46 PM ET (US) Pretty much most of Michigan is dangerous!
skinnywater	posted 08-22-2011 09:42 AM ET (US) quote: The second dream is more obscure. It warns that going ashore is dangerous. Lewis and Clark, Detroit, circa 1803. Must be something in those Michigan waters.