posted 10-03-2011 02:20 PM ET (US)        

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Just off [the Boston Whaler] facebook page:

http://www.bostonwhaler.com/Page.aspx/pageId/30613/articleId/252556/ sectionId/23083/view/read/Current-Boston-Whaler-News.aspx

Details and Images. Look at the motor.
http://www.bostonwhaler.com/Page.aspx/pageId/29592/pmid/270171/ 210-Montauk.aspx

What a great boat. It even has a head in the console. Finally a current post -Classic I can really lust after. Still, I would love to see a twins option. With some work I bet you could shoehorn in a pair of skinny profile twins into that transom notch.

Performance Charts:
http://www.bostonwhaler.com/boat_graphics/eprowebsitemedia/2904/ EnginePerformance/270171_EnginePerf.pdf

posted 10-03-2011 02:38 PM ET (US)            

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The "Build This Boat" page lists the only two available motors as the VERADO 150 and the VERADO 200. No mention of the new Mercury 150 FourStroke, even though a Performance Report is available for the new motor. See: http://www.bostonwhaler.com/page.aspx/pageid/33910/pmid/270171/ stepNumber/2/Build-This-Boat.aspx

I also noticed that the Performance Reports for the New Mercury 150 FourStroke and the 200 VERADO are from a boat with a T-Top, while the Performance Report for the [VERADO] 150 is from a boat that apparently did not have a T-Top. Without the T-Top, the top speed for the 150 VERADO is marginally higher than that of the 150 FourStroke, but the 150 FourStroke has better MPG across the board. If both boats were equipped the same, I think the 150 VERADO would lose in all categories.

posted 10-03-2011 03:26 PM ET (US)            

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This is pure speculation on my part, but I am expecting the recently announced Mercury 150 HP FourStroke will be available as an option for this model, as well as for the 190 Montauk. Every promotional picture we have seen for this boat has shown the new motor. Additionally, I think this model would fare far better with a lighter motor than the VERADO.

The "Build This Boat" feature on the website cannot show the new Fourstroke nor its pricing because the motor has not yet been officially released. Time will tell. But I agree with Jeff and others, I really like this model, both its size and the simplicity of the Montauk design.--Dan

posted 10-03-2011 03:27 PM ET (US)            

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That's better.

https://sites.google.com/site/rohlfingsuploads/_/rsrc/1317669839324/ home/TEMP21.jpg

Photoshop, helping to give vision to dreams but, unfortunately not reality.

posted 10-03-2011 03:49 PM ET (US)            

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Jeff--No need for twins. That 150-HP FourStroke will take me out to tuna country--maybe the tips of tuna country out here--albeit with a buddy boat or two on a perfect day. With a 273-mile range at 4,000-RPM and 27.5-MPH that leaves me with 90-odd-miles out, 90-odd-miles back, and 90-miles of fuel capacity in reserve. Unless conditions are perfect--when does that happen--my 22 Outrage is typically run between 25- and 30-MPH, so, given the similar dimensions and weight, I expect this model will tolerate similar conditions in terms of comfort.

Look at the pictures showing the boat's transom with the 150-HP FourStroke. The scuppers are nice and clear of the water. Where would they be with a VERADO or twins?

But I like your thinking.

Dan

posted 10-03-2011 10:51 PM ET (US)            

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The T-Top is an option.

That livewell is as well. If you get rid of that option you really get a nice open rear cockpit area.

posted 10-04-2011 09:28 AM ET (US)            

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Not to mention that E-TEC would likely match the new powerful Mercury FourStroke 150's performance at a much higher price, Tim!

Nice looking boat, again harkening back to Whaler's halcyon years in both styling and simplicity. The 210's extra foot of beam against the Classic 22's extra foot of length certainly shouldn't improve the ride any, but perhaps additional weight will offset that length to beam ratio disadvantage.

One might say this new 210 Montauk is the 2010s equivalent to the 1980s Outrage-22. You know, a bit cheaper in appearance, lowered standards of expectation and lacking a degree of design sophistication. Sort of a text-message version of the classic.

posted 10-04-2011 04:00 PM ET (US)            

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Oh, I think it's just possible that the eTec 200HO would better the performance of the Merc 150. But it's not about one motor vs. another, it's about having a choice. Which I don't with a modern Whaler, which is why I'll never own one.

Tim

posted 10-10-2011 06:03 PM ET (US)            

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$57k sounds outrageous for that boat, but remember that’s list price. When it’s time to talk turkey the price comes down. I don’t know the markup on boats, but it is very high.

Just for comparison: back in 2002 a fully loaded, with trailer, leftover new 2001 23 Outrage listed for $88k. The dealership was offering it up for $58k. That is a 34% discount and I doubt the dealership would offer it up at a loss.

Take 25% discount and the price for the 21 Montauk comes in around $42k which is much more palatable.

No matter how you slice it though, Whalers aren’t cheap. I’m now curious what the classics cost when they were new relative to today’s dollars.

posted 10-10-2011 07:12 PM ET (US)            

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For $57K, you can get the Everglades 243 Center Console. Last year, at the boat show, there was one fully outfitted for $57 or $58K. It was not a boat show only price. POWER/MOTOR OF CHOICE.

The fit and finish on the boat clearly exceeded that of Whalers at the same boat show. Way more items were standard vs options.

Here is a link to that boat: http://www.evergladesboats.com/boats/243cc.php

I agree that this 21 Montauk is a nice boat, but dollar for dollar, my opinion is that it does not come close to the Everglades.

posted 10-20-2011 07:36 AM ET (US)         

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I am not sure where the price you have quoted is from, but I found this on a florida dealer's website:

http://www.atlanticcoastmarine.com/boat.php?id=329
EVERGLADES BOATS 243 CC 2012

MSRP: $ 104,055.00

Length: 24' 3"
Beam: 8' 2"
Draft: 16"
Dry Weight: 3500lbs

Horsepower: 300HP
Fuel Capacity: 80gals
In Stock: yes
Colors currently available:
Ice Blue Hull